DK Up-b Super Armor tech

ook · Mar 16, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzpeCiK81fY

So yep... if you do an up-b, then move off a platform during the super armor frames, the super armor lasts for the entire move.

It works pretty well on Japes or any stage with a platform, OR just do it off the ledge for edgeguarding.

Try it out :lick:

DK is a beast

KoSa! · Mar 16, 2009

You do the Upb before running off?

I like this probably works on BF

You just have to refresh it when it says it isnt available.

Ragnar0k · Mar 16, 2009

I had to refresh the video once but it works. Awesome find.

Edit: does this work on other platformed stages? I would think on stages with platforms like battlefield you had have to start the up b too early to get the super armor frames and miss out on having a lagless landing.

double edit: You got that video up so quick after it was discovered, good **** ook.

ook · Mar 16, 2009

Thanks. And yeah, it does work on battlefield with the lagless landing. :D

Ragnar0k · Mar 16, 2009

That's so awesome. DK just got broken :chuckle:

magikguy · Mar 16, 2009

great find , is that what you were doing on delfino?

Ragnar0k · Mar 16, 2009

lagless super armor up b is now probably one of the best approaches in the game.

KoSa! · Mar 16, 2009

Ragnar0k said:
lagless super armor up b is now probably one of the best approaches in the game.

UpB is our best approach.

Ragnar0k · Mar 16, 2009

Now it's even better. I need to start using up b more, I hardly ever use it anyway.

daisho · Mar 16, 2009

DK is becoming pretty technical... Both up B techs and GFSC...

highandmightyjoe · Mar 16, 2009

I remember people asking if this was possible a while back and I didn't think it was. I guess my timing was off in my testing. Good stuff though, I'll be sure to do it right this time.

thrillagorilla · Mar 16, 2009

Is this practical to use on Yoshi's (Brawl)? If so, between this and the other up-b tech, DK just got himself another viable and awesome CP stage! :chuckle:

Luigi player · Mar 17, 2009

Awesome!

The only bad thing about it is that you don't really know if you timed it right and got the SA... (the enemy might just kill you out of your upB if you don't have it =/)

It is probably also not easy to do it right...

Maybe with some training it will possible to do it most of the time.

Jmex · Mar 17, 2009

What stages can this be done with the lagless animation? I know Jungle Japes, but i mean what other stages can this be done on?

Awesome fine Ook btw.

Veggi · Mar 17, 2009

I have to try this.

blakinola · Mar 17, 2009

fscking amazing

sh*t just got real.

Jingo_Joe · Mar 18, 2009

Jingo_Joe said:
You're invincible, so I'd assume so.

Also, has anyone tried doing something similar with the Super Armor frames of the grounded Up-B? If you can make the invincibility frames last longer by canceling an aerial Up-B into a grounded Up-B, shouldn't you also be able to make the Super Armor frames last longer by canceling a grounded Up-B into an aerial Up-B? Someone should test it out when they have time.

Totally called it. Thanks for actually doing the test work/officially discovering it, ook!

Seton · Mar 18, 2009

With that super armor tech japes could be posible our best Cp. Nice movement.

SamuraiPanda · Mar 18, 2009

Ugh, your Up-B shenanigans were annoying enough before this, Ook :/

More DKs should use spinning kong like Ook does. Its really tough to deal with.

Ragnar0k · Mar 18, 2009

How does Ook use it?

itsthebigfoot · Mar 18, 2009

well, he uses it like me, which = spam the crap out of it, abuse the SA and make use of all the glitches that it has

i1337 · Mar 18, 2009

...i do this on japes all the time, lol.

but good "find"

lol jk

Ragnar0k · Mar 18, 2009

I hardly ever use it, I really need to start using it more. I started trying to use it in some teams friendlies today and it *****. Not really used to the SA timing though, I still need to work that out.

TheNix · Mar 19, 2009

Ragnar0k said:
I hardly ever use it, I really need to start using it more. I started trying to use it in some teams friendlies today and it *****. Not really used to the SA timing though, I still need to work that out.

Keep at it, it's completely worth your while. Up+B *****.

Well, there's a few characters that it's not great for, but even then it can be useful with proper timing for the SA (ZSS, for example).

sMexy-Blu · Mar 19, 2009

I hate Spinning Kong spammers. *coughhinoarashicough* This is like the most broken approach ever.

powuh_of_PIE · Mar 19, 2009

I'm so glad this works, I had doubts about it when I tried it on my own but after seeing it done I got it down 3 times in a row ^ ^ I always use Up+B whenever I'm having trouble approaching, this is only a step further.

[sarcasm]

With this, do you think we could beat Falco on Japes? =P

[/sarcasm]

itsthebigfoot · Mar 19, 2009

powuh, get better at japes, falco isn't that bad on it as is, either don't get grabbed or camp him for the first 40% and you're set

nash123 · Mar 19, 2009

Sometimes when a DK Up-Bs at me, I jump over, **** ***** brah.

Luigi player · Mar 20, 2009

Hm, could anyone make a video of the first 20 frames (frame by frame, in slowmotion and such...) of DKs up B and maybe color the ones where he has SA? It would be much easier to do this then... although it is much easier to do than I thought, but this still would be a great help.

ook · Mar 20, 2009

I would but I don't think my camera is good enough to do that, or I don't have the hacks.

A good way to practice and see if you're doing it right, go into training mode and set a motion sensor bomb where you're gonna land. Then up-b into it.
If you did it right, you won't die. :bigthumbu

And yeah, spam up-b. It's the new tornado

nash123 said:
Sometimes when a DK Up-Bs at me, I jump over, **** ***** brah.

Sometimes, when people jump over me, I just up-b at them again. :lick:

Luigi player · Mar 20, 2009

Yeah that's a good idea, I already tried that

I wonder if those new upB techniques give DK a little boost in the tier list... not that it really matters though (I know he should be a little higher =P).

DK is now even better at Brinstar, Japes and Norfair (and of course on some other stages too ^^)

Kitamerby · Mar 22, 2009

ook said:
Sometimes, when people jump over me, I just up-b at them again.

That's why instead of up-b'ing you should just walk away and space a disjointed fsmash. :D

Like Lucario's.

...Or Dedede's. (lol)

Also, you can still grab DK out of this, since it's only super armor, and you won't know if you do it right if you screw up, so it's not that great of a discovery. :3

TheHulk · Mar 22, 2009

LOLOLOLOL.... just do up tilt after you land

itsthebigfoot · Mar 22, 2009

Kitamerby said:
That's why instead of up-b'ing you should just walk away and space a disjointed fsmash. :D

Like Lucario's.

...Or Dedede's. (lol)

Also, you can still grab DK out of this, since it's only super armor, and you won't know if you do it right if you screw up, so it's not that great of a discovery. :3

the upb hitboxes are a bit too quick/active to get grabbed out of, maybe at the end, but for the most part no

Ragnar0k · Mar 23, 2009

I doubt DK will get grabbed out of a lagless up b.

Tristan_win · Mar 23, 2009

...Wouldn't think make Donkey kong god on no fair?

MAAAYBE I should start thinking about looking into dk.

Ragnar0k · Mar 23, 2009

DK's already awesome on Norfair.

crifer · Mar 23, 2009

agreed, I love Norfair!
*cargo dthrow his enemy into lava and bair him afterwards*

Ragnar0k · Mar 23, 2009

Cargo down throw then up smash *****.

itsthebigfoot · Mar 24, 2009

^ probably, i just spam fair for most of the match though

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