This chart shows the ratios that every character's board has agreed about the rest of the cast. 50 means neutral match-up, while 100 total advantage, 0 total disadvantage.
How to read the chart: Each column of each character shows what the other boards say about that character; each row shows what a specific character's board says about the rest of the cast. For example: If you want to know what Bowser's board says about Ice Climbers, go Bowser's row, Ice Climbers' column. It shows a 25. That means Bowser's board says its a 25:75 disadvantage for Bowser. Now, if you want to know what Ice Climbers' Board says about Bowser, go to Ice Climbers' row, Bowser's column. It shows an 80, so Ice Climbers's board says its an 80:20 advantage for Ice Climbers. (As you see, there is a small difference in what each board is saying)
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MATCH-UPS TIER LIST
This is a Tier List based only on match-ups. It gives more importance to important matchups (against higher tiers). First number is the ponderated ratio on what that character says about the rest; second number is the ponderated ratio on what the other boards say about that specific character; last is the ponderated average ratio of both, and what finally determines this Tier List.
The ponderators i used are a mix between the results of the Ranking List and the new Tier List 3.0; they are changing as any matchup ratio changes. They are hard to explain how i got them; maybe i'll explain something in the future
Important: For every character, if he/she has a ratio for Pokemon Trainer, then the ratios for Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard are ignored. If there is no ratio for PT but there are for the Pokemons, then the ratio taken for the calculations of the ranking is just the sum of the three divided by 3 (the average), and its treated as one character (like Pokemon Trainer)
(The 7th column is how much places the character moved from the last Machups Tier List)
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MATCH-UPS TIER LIST (MK BANNED)
Same idea as above, but without including Meta Knight.
(The 7th column is how much places the character moved from the last List published)
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IMPORTANT:
THREADS USED AND HOW TO CHANGE THEM: Im using the listed threads below for every character's ratios (the first post of each thread). If a new or updated thread arise, please let me know by putting the link to that thread so i can change the link and update the ratios. If you notice any mistake, please let me know. Also, some characters have two or more threads; the first one has the priority to fill ratios, the others will just help me to fill empty squares. If you want to change priority between them, or add/erase "back-up" threads please let me know.
HOW TO UPDATE THIS CHART: If you have new match-up ratios for some characters, i'll gladly update them as soon as the official threads i've listed of the characters involved are updated too. This is based on official information of each community rather than someone's personal oppinion. That's why its important that, in order to update this chart, previously the character's threads im using should be updated. Finally, remember that if you want to change something (with official info as back-up, as just said), you are speaking for an entire community... if people from a same community begin to ask for different things, i'll take the final decision on what to do until there is no disagreement.
Threads used for each character: (The number after the link is when was the last update of that thread's first post , in the form
dd-month-yyyy)
Bowser:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=211975 (25-Oct-2009)
Captain Falcon:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=250458 (15-Jan-2010)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=227365 (11-Aug-2009)
Charizard:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5117869 (16-Jan-2010)
Diddy Kong:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=237408 (25-Nov-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=181638 (29-May-2009)
Donkey Kong:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=235788 (26-Dec-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=193883 (21-May-2009)
Falco:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=259481 (12-Jan-2010)
Fox:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=232907 (16-Oct-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=186742 (23-Mar-2009)
Game & Watch:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174763 (31-Ago-2009)
Ganondorf:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=202473 (29-Sep-2009)
Ice Climbers:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=242786 (30-Oct-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=188700 (27-Jul-2009)
Ike:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=238648 (28-Dec-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231930 (12-Jun-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=189813 (24-Mar-2009)
Ivysaur:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5117869 (16-Jan-2010)
Jigglypuff:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=233873, post #2
(31-Aug-2009)
King Dedede:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=192600 (15-Oct-2009)
Kirby:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=236395, post #3
(11-Nov-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=195032 (19-Mar-2009)
Link:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231077 (26-Dec-2009)
http://allisbrawl.com/forum/topic.aspx?id=82514 (13-Sep-2009)
Lucario:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=221578 (18-Jan-2010)
Lucas:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=246877 (17-Jan-2010)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=183767 (08-Apr-2009)
Luigi:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=250455 (04-Dec-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=199357 (30-Jun-2009)
Mario:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=256410 (16-Jan-2010)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=227291 (21-Dec-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=212008 (25-Mar-2009)
Marth:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=186736 (01-Aug-2009)
Meta Knight:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=179463 (04-Nov-2009)
Ness:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=188116 (08-Jan-2010)
Olimar:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=243541 (12-Jan-2010)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=185014 (14-Jul-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=172222 (14-Jul-2009)
Peach:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=178193 (15-Nov-2009)
Pikachu:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174335 (05-Nov-2009)
Pit:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=242314 (02-Nov-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=197115 (09-Jul-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=212541 (27-May-2009)
Pokémon Trainer:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5117869 (16-Jan-2010)
R.O.B.:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=252391 (26-Oct-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231033 (21-Sep-2009)
Samus:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=222783 (28-Dec-2009)
Sheik:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=226389 (06-Dec-2009)
Snake:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=260102 (14-Jan-2010)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=243809 (09-Aug-2009)
Sonic:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=190510 (09-Oct-2009)
Squirtle:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5117869 (16-Jan-2010)
Toon Link:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=182155 (13-Jan-2010)
Wario:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=249340 (04-Jan-2010)
Wolf:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=237768 (07-Jan-2010)
Yoshi:
Zelda:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=240002 (06-Jan-2009)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=190698 (23-Aug-2009)
Zero Suit Samus:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=203418 (16-Oct-2009)
Some info maybe outdated; also, despite how similar this may look to other thread i saw, i only copied the idea of putting the link to each character's thread.
Help me update the chart by let me knowing when the threads are updated with new ratios!
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Updates: (last 20)
Important Note: I'm taking into account infinites allowed.
15-Jun-2009: Jigglypuff 20 G&W; King Dedede 80 Mario; Kirby 40 Meta Knight; Mario 45 Pit; MetaKnight 55 Diddy; Samus 38 Kirby, 40 Squirtle, 60 Charizard, 65 Ivysaur; Snake 40 Olimar, 60 Sonic; Sonic 40 Olimar, 50 Kirby, Yoshi; ZSS 60 King Dedede, 70 ROB
21-Jun-2009: Bowser 45 Samus, 50 Ike; Ike 40 Samus, 60 Captain Falcon, and new thread; Jigglypuff 45 Falco; King Dedede 75 Captain Falcon, 85 Bowser, 90 Samus; Kirby 60 Zelda; Lucario 45 Olimar, 50 Zero Suit Samus; Luigi 50 Zero Suit Samus; Meta Knight 50 Ice Climbers; Sheik 20 Ice Climbers, 35 Olimar, 40 Lucario, 45 Diddy Kong; Wario 53 Luigi
30-Jun-2009: Diddy Kong 35 Luigi, 45 Meta Knight, 50 Jigglypuff, Olimar, and new thread; Donkey Kong 35 Olimar, 40 Meta Knight, 45 Ice Climbers, 55 Luigi, and new thread; Ice Climbers 50 Squirtle; Kirby 55 Zelda; Mario 60 Samus; Marth 65 Ike; Wolf new thread
07-Jul-2009: Ice Climbers 55 Zero Suit Samus; Jigglypuff 35 Wario; King Dedede 50 Snake; Kirby 35 Ice Climbers; Marth 55 Ice Climbers; Toon Link 40 Meta Knight; Zelda 25 Mr. Game & Watch, 30 Meta Knight, Snake, 40 Falco, Peach, Wario, 55 King Dedede, and new thread; Zero Suit Samus 45 Meta Knight, Snake
13-Jul-2009: Diddy Kong 45 Falco, 55 Zero Suit Samus; Ness 40 Snake; Pit 40 Wario, 50 Pikachu; R.O.B. 30 Zero Suit Samus, 45 Olimar, 50 Pit, 55 Snake, and new thread; Sheik 45 Kirby, 50 Zelda, 55 Pit, Toon Link, 60 Wolf, 80 Fox; Toon Link 50 Marth, Olimar
26-Jul-2009: Charizard 40 Falco, 45 Ice Climbers, 60 Ness; Ivysaur 30 Falco, 35 Ice Climbers, 45 Ness; King Dedede 40 Olimar, 45 Meta Knight; Kirby 40 Olimar, 55 Falco; Marth 60 Sonic; Meta Knight 60 Lucario, Zero Suit Samus; Olimar 60 Kirby; Pokémon Trainer 45 Falco, 50 Ice Climbers; Snake 45 King Dedede; Squirtle 60 Falco, 65 Ice Climbers, Ness; Toon Link 45 King Dedede, Marth, 50 Kirby, 55 Ice Climbers, Luigi; Wario 50 Falco, King Dedede, 60 Diddy Kong, and new thread; Zelda 25 Meta Knight, 35 Marth, 40 Diddy Kong
04-Aug-2009: Captain Falcon's last thread erased; Donkey Kong 40 Ice Climbers, Olimar, 50 Luigi, Wario, 55 Fox; Ice Climbers 50 Pokémon Trainer; Ike 35 Marth, and new thread; Kirby 50 Toon Link; Link's last thread erased; Lucario 50 Wolf, 55 Luigi, 60 Peach; Marth 55 Zero Suit Samus; Wolf 40 Wario, 45 Snake, and last thread erased
09-Aug-2009: Donkey Kong 40 Diddy Kong, 55 Kirby; Ganondorf 0 Olimar, 10 Snake, 20 King Dedede, 45 Captain Falcon; Jigglypuff 40 R.O.B.; Olimar 35 Meta Knight, 40 Marth, Peach, 45 Mr. Game & Watch, Sheik, 60 Sonic, and new thread; Snake has new thread, with lots of ratios updated ( averages taken ); Zelda 30 Olimar
18-Aug-2009: Diddy Kong 40 Luigi, 45 Kirby; Donkey Kong 45 Diddy Kong, Wario, 55 Luigi; King Dedede 35 Ice Climbers, Olimar, 45 Kirby, 50 Mr. Game & Watch, Wario, 55 Snake, Zelda; Lucario 65 Sonic; Mario 45 Luigi; Meta Knight 65 Bowser; Sheik 45 Peach; Toon Link 50 King Dedede, 60 Luigi, 65 Zelda
23-Aug-2009: Fox 45 Meta Knight, Snake, and new thread; Ice Climbers 40 Zelda, 60 Olimar, 70 Sheik, and new thread; Kirby 60 Ganondorf; Lucario 50 Toon Link, 55 Pit; Snake's ratios changed to General Consensus ratios instead of averages; Wario 55 Diddy Kong, 58 Falco, 80 Sonic, and changed priority of threads
03-Sep-2009: Donkey Kong 38 Falco, 50 Snake; Mr. Game & Watch 40 Toon Link, 55 Falco, King Dedede; Ice Climbers 45 Diddy Kong; Link 30 Falco, Meta Knight, and priority of threads changed; Lucario 50 Fox, 60 Sheik; Lucas 43 Falco, and new thread; Mario 45 Lucario, 50 Charizard, Luigi, Squirtle, Toon Link, 55 Bowser, Jigglypuff, 60 Ivysaur; Meta Knight 70 Bowser; Olimar 50 Ness; Samus 40 Kirby, Snake, 45 Pit, 50 R.O.B.; Toon Link 50 Wario; Wario 70 Wolf
12-Sep-2009: Donkey Kong 10 King Dedede, 45 Pit; Falco 30 Ice Climbers, 35 Pikachu, 40 Kirby, 45 Snake, 50 Sheik, Zelda, 55 Fox, Mario, 60 Bowser, Jigglypuff, Lucas, Ness, Pokémon Trainer, Sonic, 65 Samus, 95 Ganondorf; Fox 40 Diddy Kong; Ice Climbers 40 Meta Knight, Wario, 45 Marth, Zelda; Ike 45 Pit; Kirby 45 Pikachu, 50 Diddy Kong, 60 Link; Lucas 40 Meta Knight; Luigi's backup thread erased (and the respective ratios) because it was older than a year; Mario 50 Pit; Peach 45 Mr. Game & Watch, 50 Falco, R.O.B., 55 Mario, Squirtle, Yoshi, 60 Ness; Toon Link 55 Mr. Game & Watch
18-Sep-2009: Ice Climbers 55 Marth; Link 25 Falco, 35 Kirby, Mr. Game & Watch, Pikachu, 40 Peach, Pit, 45 Ice Climbers, priority of threads changed; Lucario 55 Charizard, Pokémon Trainer, Squirtle, 65 Ivysaur; Lucas 35 Snake; Mario 45 Peach; Meta Knight 55 Ice Climbers; Toon Link 45 Olimar, 55 Kirby, Pikachu; Zero Suit Samus 50 Lucario, 60 Pokémon Trainer, 70 Ivysaur
05-Oct-2009: Donkey Kong 45 Falco, 60 Sonic; Falco 75 Link, 80 Captain Falcon; Ganondorf 25 Fox, 35 Kirby; Kirby 50 Sheik, 60 Yoshi; Link 30 Falco, 40 Pikachu, and threads priority changed; Lucario 60 Bowser, Samus; Lucas 35 Mr. Game & Watch; Luigi new thread; Mario 50 Lucas, 55 Ness; Samus 35 Zero Suit Samus, and backup thread erased (and the respective ratios); Toon Link 50 Diddy Kong; Wario 50 Falco, 55 Kirby, R.O.B., 58 Ice Climbers, 60 Diddy Kong, one backup thread erased, and new thread; Wolf 35 King Dedede; Zelda 45 Pikachu, 55 Ice Climbers
20-Oct-2009: Bowser 55 Sonic; Diddy Kong 45 Luigi, Marth, Snake, 50 King Dedede; Donkey Kong 40 Wario, 50 Olimar, Toon Link; Fox 40 Meta Knight; Ganondorf 0 Sheik, 5 Falco, Snake, 10 Diddy Kong, King Dedede, Meta Knight, 15 Marth, Samus, 25 Peach, 30 Luigi, 35 Bowser, Donkey Kong, Ike, 40 Captain Falcon; King Dedede 40 Meta Knight, 55 Peach, 60 Jigglypuff, 65 Ivysaur, Wolf, 75 Ganondorf, 95 Samus; Kirby 55 Fox; Lucario 60 Ike, Jigglypuff, Lucas, Mario, 65 Captain Falcon, Yoshi, 70 Ganondorf, and backup thread erased; Lucas 40 King Dedede, 45 Lucario; Luigi 45 Wario; Mario 55 Zelda, 60 Link; Pit 55 Donkey Kong, and new thread; Wario 55 Lucario, Zero Suit Samus; Wolf 40 Falco, 50 Mr. Game & Watch; Zero Suit Samus 50 Donkey Kong, 60 Kirby, and last thread erased (and the respective ratios; the thread was older than a year)
02-Nov-2009: Bowser 40 Olimar; Captain Falcon 40 Zero Suit Samus, and new thread; Ike 40 Pikachu; Kirby 30 Ice Climbers, 45 King Dedede; Lucas 30 Snake; Mario 48 Wolf, 50 Fox; R.O.B. 35 Meta Knight, 40 Mr. Game & Watch, Zero Suit Samus, 50 Fox, Mario, Olimar, Peach, Squirtle, Toon Link, 55 Charizard, Donkey Kong, Ice Climbers, Lucario, Lucas, Pokémon Trainer, Wolf, Zelda, 60 Ike, Link, Luigi, 65 Ivysaur, 70 Ganondorf, new thread, and last two threads erased; Toon Link 35 Meta Knight, 50 Fox; Wolf 40 Pikachu
14-Nov-2009: Diddy Kong's last thread erased (and its ratios), the info there is older than a year; Jigglypuff's last thread erased (and its ratios), it wasn't an open matchup thread (personal guide); Lucas 48 Pikachu; Mario 60 Yoshi; Peach 50 Yoshi; Pikachu 43 Meta Knight, 45 Wario, 56 Falco, 42 Diddy Kong, 59 King Dedede, 37 Marth, 41 Mr. Game & Watch, 42 Olimar, 46 Ice Climbers, 46 R.O.B., 52 Kirby, 44 Lucario, 53 Zero Suit Samus, 48 Toon Link, 50 Pit, 57 Donkey Kong, 47 Peach, 47 Luigi, 68 Fox, 58 Wolf, 57 Sonic, 66 Sheik, 60 Bowser, 55 Zelda, 58 Pokémon Trainer, 51 Squirtle, 60 Charizard, 57 Ike, 52 Mario, 48 Ness, 54 Yoshi, 59 Samus, 58 Jigglypuff, 62 Link, 67 Ganondorf; Wario's last two threads erased (and their ratios), they weren't open matchup threads (personal guides); Wolf 45 Ice Climbers, 55 Olimar
30-Nov-2009: Diddy Kong 50 Pit, 55 Pikachu; Ike 45 Diddy Kong; Link 45 Samus; Lucas 38 Wario; Luigi 30 Marth; Mario 60 Captain Falcon, 65 Ganondorf; Peach 55 Yoshi, 60 Wario; Sheik 55 Zero Suit Samus; Wario 40 Meta Knight, 55 Snake, Toon Link; Wolf 45 R.O.B.
18-Dec-2009: Captain Falcon 35 Snake; Link 30 Sheik, 40 Mr. Game & Watch, Zelda, 50 Lucas; Lucas 40 Wario, 45 Falco, R.O.B., 50 Olimar, Pikachu; Sheik 40 Luigi; Zelda 25 Olimar, 40 Pit, 45 R.O.B., Sonic, 50 Ice Climbers
06-Jan-2010: Falco 40 Squirtle, 60 Charizard, 70 Ike, Ivysaur, new thread and previous thead erased; Lucas 40 Mr. Game & Watch, Snake, 45 Ice Climbers, 55 Zelda; Samus 35 Marth, 48 Donkey Kong, 65 Yoshi, 68 Ike; Sheik's last thread erased and its ratios (thread older than a year); Snake's last thread erased, and new thread; Toon Link 40 Snake; Wario 55 Falco, Pit, 65 Donkey Kong; Yoshi's thread erased and all its ratios (thread older than a year)
20-Jan-2010: Falco 50 Snake; Lucario 45 Snake; Lucas 30 Snake, 35 Meta Knight, 38 Wario, 40 R.O.B., 43 Falco, 48 Olimar, Pikachu; Mario 35 King Dedede, 40 Mr. Game & Watch, Snake, 43 Lucario, 45 Luigi, 60 Bowser, and new thread; Olimar 45 Ice Climbers, 50 Snake, Wolf, 55 R.O.B., Yoshi, 60 Bowser, Ike, King Dedede, Samus, 65 Jigglypuff, Link, 70 Zelda. New chart added: A Matchups Tier List in a MK-banned enviroment
Except now you have a mask and a gay little sword.
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