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Yoshi v. King Dedede
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Metatitan
Smash Master
i think the ddd boards already did this matchup
I'll let PRiDE and Bwett and Furbz go to town on this one.I will say, however, that down aerial is one of the best shield punishers for Yoshi in this matchup. It's really very useful for shield pressure against a character that many cannot shield pressure.
Poltergust
Smash Master
Wouldn't he be able to easily grab you out of that, though?
YoshiIslander77z
Smash Apprentice
if u cant pressuire without geting shield grabed it shouldnt be to hard, never play d3 on jungle japes it will make u cry
Tidycats29
Smash Cadet
From my experience
they try to shield grab they get hit
i haven't gotten shieldgrabbed from a dair yet by a ddd
those that have tried failed
honestly in this match up you pretty much can knock DDD around and get some pretty easy combos on him and even a cg on him(hard but it can be done)
the only problem is getting the kill
he so **** fat that your gonna have a problem killing him and the fact that you probably gonna hit him with a trillion up smash
you ain't really gonna kill him with that move
He on the other hand ain't gonna approach
much of us know that
he waits to shield grab you
most of the % your gonna get is gonna be from the cg
and usually your gonna get killed with his utilt
i think it is a 5;5 match up
You can combo **** him and camp him with eggs
problem is the kill for yoshi
DDD gonna have a hard time approaching so he'll rely on CG and quick kill with his strengh
thats my opinion anyway
SOVAman
Smash Hero
I hate this match up with a passion
Poltergust
Smash Master
Oh, one effective technique against King Dedede is, when approaching him, to double-jump right before you do an aerial. That way you'll be safe from his grab if he manages to shield your aerial.
And, honestly, you'll only be able to kill King Dedede with your u-air. And he'll mostly only be open to that during his recovery. You may be able to kill him with Yoshi Bomb, but it's a bit risky.
And, honestly, you'll only be able to kill King Dedede with your u-air. And he'll mostly only be open to that during his recovery. You may be able to kill him with Yoshi Bomb, but it's a bit risky.
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
Egg Tossing is vital in this matchup. ETS is even more vital.
Gindler
Smash Champion
I tend to short hop egg toss more than ets in this matchup don't know why I guess I just feel safer in the air
smashkng
Smash Lord
One problem is that he easily gimps Yoshi's recovery. And he can also dthrow into dtilt Yoshi.
Cliche-Guevara
Smash Cadet
Becareful camping with eggs if you aren't a full stage away too, a random gordo will kill you around 110-120%
On the topic of Gordos, if you're in the air and a Gordo is headed your way, don't be so quick to dodge.You can actually stop Gordos with Yoshi's forward air, so don't forget that as an option just in case you feel like the regular reaction to a Gordo is meant to bait you into something.
My experience of this matchup gives me one piece of advice... Don't Get Grabbed.
Hounestly, D3 is going to want to shieldgrab you and he will take any opertunity he gets to do it. This makes it very hard to successfully attack.
Luckily, D3 is a big fat penguin, and as such he gets smacked around a lot by Yoshi and doesn't take well to eggs. Eggs and ETS are invaluable in this matchup.
If you can keep him in the air as much as possible, not get grabbed and keep him at bay with eggs, he shouldn't be that much of a problem.
Hounestly, D3 is going to want to shieldgrab you and he will take any opertunity he gets to do it. This makes it very hard to successfully attack.
Luckily, D3 is a big fat penguin, and as such he gets smacked around a lot by Yoshi and doesn't take well to eggs. Eggs and ETS are invaluable in this matchup.
If you can keep him in the air as much as possible, not get grabbed and keep him at bay with eggs, he shouldn't be that much of a problem.
bigman40
Smash Master
Camp on the outside of him (toward the ledges) to reduce the amount of times he can CG you.
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poekmon
Grab him before he grabs you. And throw eggs.
While in the air, using nair in his face is quite effective, seeing how he has no fast aerial that covers his front.
While in the air, using nair in his face is quite effective, seeing how he has no fast aerial that covers his front.
Excellence
Smash Champion
Who needs aerials when you have Forward and Upward Tilts like Dedede's?
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poekmon
An edgeguarding Dedede.
Excellence
Smash Champion
Speaking of edgeguarding, I think he edgeguards Yoshi with his WoP pretty well. Care to disagree?
Metatitan
Smash Master
i just use jigglypuff because id prefer not to be chaingrabbed xD
Poltergust
Smash Master
=O
Even if Yoshi is disadvantaged, Snake is a lot of fun to fight against! He's so unique, yet not annoying (like Olimar).
Back on topic, I have to say that his b-air just owns Yoshi except for when he uses his up-smash. It's worse than his chain-grab, in my opinion.
Metatitan
Smash Master
his bair is good but its not worse than his cg, we would have no fear to get close if it werent for his cg
Well, I mean......his grabs are good regardless. If I'm playing King Dedede and I'm feeling lazy, I don't even chaingrab people. I just play dumb and gay and shieldgrab and back throw or forward throw because they do ridiculous damage anyway. His grab game is the scary part, not the chaingrab.
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Deleted member
Guest
You have to camp the **** out of D3. Reaally hard. I like baiting grabs and punishing as well.
Edge camp a tonnn! I beat one of the best players in mexico's D3 in tourny coming back from a 0-100 lead on last stock by ledge camping then running to the other edge. I was accused of planking XD Too good
Edge camp a tonnn! I beat one of the best players in mexico's D3 in tourny coming back from a 0-100 lead on last stock by ledge camping then running to the other edge. I was accused of planking XD Too good
Metatitan
Smash Master
and if u really dont wanna do this matchup use the ice climbers =D
ddds need to pay for having that cg, cg them back stocky
ddds need to pay for having that cg, cg them back stocky
chimpact
Smash Lord
If DDD starts to use his aerials, I tend to run away, since I don't know how to get through them. And I really like to use my aerial speed to my advantage. I like to mindgame them into thinking im gonna bair but retreat at the last second. And then do a real bair. It shield pokes well or you get a free bair in. I don't do the retreating bair as much as I'd like to since I only play Yoshi online. But I like it off stage. I can act like Im going for a fair, retreat, wait for an airdodge or aerial, and then do an up air or something.
That's how I would play anyways. Play defensively, and avoid getting close.
Hey Marik.
I agree, go defensive. spam eggs, Do the ledge camp (tilt opposite side, egg throw & aim, grab ledge automatically), when D3 goes for you as your doing it, roll up and keep spamming eggs if he goes in the air, also, do pivot grab a lot.
Btw ledgecamping is gay.
Btw ledgecamping is gay.
JOE!
Smash Hero
doesnt our grab out-range his?
cant we abuse that somehow?
cant we abuse that somehow?
JOE!
Smash Hero
unless you hit your grab....
anywho, some random stuff:
Dair Off stage is some free damage, ive never had one able to counte rit well...
Uair > UPB recovery for D3
Poltergust
Smash Master
King Dedede recovers using down-B?
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poekmon
King Dedede doesn't do anything using down B.
Poltergust
Smash Master
I was being sarcastic... It doesn't work even when he is NOT recovering.
...Also, what the heck happened to my sig? o_O
EDIT: Nevermind. It's fixed now... with an addition to it, too! =D
...Also, what the heck happened to my sig? o_O
EDIT: Nevermind. It's fixed now... with an addition to it, too! =D
JOE!
Smash Hero
sorry, fixed that
(was thinking of how he slammed down and auto-typed down B, ala Yoshi/boozer)
(was thinking of how he slammed down and auto-typed down B, ala Yoshi/boozer)
Yosheon
Smash Cadet
Aerial camping and pivot grabs are the main things I do in this matchup.