Link's Frame Data - More Complete than before

Eternal Yoshi · Apr 1, 2009

I'm back. If you're wondering what I've been doing, look at my new avatar.
Here's some more data.

Hitbox comes out at frame
First IASA Frame
Total Frames
Miscellaneous
Landing Lag

Jab
7
10
28

Jab 2
6
10
29

Jab 3
6
37
50

F tilt
15
40

U tilt
8
36
41

D tilt
13
31
39

Dash Attack
8
3
53

All Smashes are uncharged.

F Smash
15
17
50

F Smash 2
12
61

U Smash
10,25,40
68
81

D Smash
9 front
21 back
55

Nair
7
40
9

Uair
11
66
Before Sword Draw 3
After Sword Draw 30

Dair
14
91
Before Sword Draw 3
After Sword Draw 50

Fair
14,26
52
10

Bair
6,19
48
10

Zair
11
60

Bow

Draw
Sound at 13
Arrow comes out at frame 19 if uncharged.
Arrow Canceling causes the arrow to come out at frame 2.
A minimum of 30 frames.

Spin Attack
On the Ground 11
In the Air 8
On the Ground 81
In the Air 80

Bomb
Draw
Sound at 22
48

Bomb Throw
7
28

Boomerang Throw
29
48

Boomerang Catch
19

Spot dodge
Invincibility Starts at 2
Ends at 20
22

Front Roll Dodge
Invincibility Starts at 4
Ends at 19
37

Back Roll Dodge
Same as front apparenntly

Air Dodge
Invincibility starts at 4
Ends at 29
49

Jump
Leaves Ground at frame 9

Dash
2
8 Until First Step

Skid
2
25

Tech
28

Tech Roll
41

Ledge Roll (Under 100%)
Invincibility starts at 7
ends at 27
51

Ledge Roll(Over 100%)
Invincibilty Starts at 7
81

Ledge Attack(Under 100%)
27
56

Ledge Attack(Over 100%)
41
61

Get up attack
15 back
25 front

Roll from get up
36 front
41 back

Grab
11
85

Dash Grab
14
96

Crouch
3
9

Exit Crouch
1
8

Up taunt
105

Side Taunt
148

Down Taunt
34 Cling!
79

Kief · Apr 1, 2009

good job. bout time someone got around to the frame data lol.

:mad: · Apr 1, 2009

KIEF. I didn't know you still had your account. I thought you were an AiB Link.

SuSa · Apr 1, 2009

I misread KIEF's post....... woops

I love you Yoshi, thank you.

:mad: · Apr 1, 2009

I have to agree. I'm so glad we have someone to do this.
Much appreciated, kind Yoshi.

Kief · Apr 1, 2009

i've always been here for friends and the OTL even tho i rarely participate =P
and other character boards. i just go to aib for the link boards and local tourneys.

idk something made me feel like posting here yesterday lol.

SuSa · Apr 1, 2009

I think you messed up on dsmash, saying "front front" when you meant "front back"

But man... a 7 frame jab? That's horrible.

(and hmm... didn't know dtilt was faster then ftilt) ... especially faster with IASA frames...

Could you test FF'd dair to see if it takes much longer then normally falling?

Also test a dair that catches a boomerang afterwards, I hear this lessens the time?

ndayday · Apr 1, 2009

Ha, dair is absolutely hideous. 91 frames, seriously? All his moves are ridiculously laggy, compared to ceratain characters...just look, his fastest move is 28 frames.

Keep it up, I want to see this when it's all done.

JaggerG · Apr 3, 2009

NAKEDeDeDe said:
Ha, dair is absolutely hideous.

Hideous and deadly.

Also, are all these for real? Does that make N-Air a better momentum cancel move than B-air?

3xSwords · Apr 3, 2009

JaggerG said:
Hideous and deadly.

Also, are all these for real? Does that make N-Air a better momentum cancel move than B-air?

What makes you say that? Remember the best aerial for momentum cancel is the one that ends the quickest and bair is the shortest lasting of all his aerials.

Edit: Also Yoshi will you do landing lag on his aerials?

And can you test how many frames it takes for the boomerang catching animation? That would answer SuSa/Havokk's question

Eternal Yoshi · Apr 3, 2009

I will do so when my unrelated secret project is done.

Rush X · Apr 3, 2009

Thanks for the data man. ^^

Eternal Yoshi · Apr 5, 2009

This has been updated.

Dannibis · Apr 5, 2009

wow 7 frames

and bair isn't much better
at least know we know lol

SuSa · Apr 5, 2009

"Jab 2
6
37
50

Jab 3
6
37
50"

I'm going to assume a typo?

ndayday · Apr 5, 2009

It's either that, or he forgot to put in the cooldown frames. If not, then a lot of them are typos.

Eternal Yoshi · Apr 5, 2009

Yes it's a typo. Fixed.

SuSa · Apr 5, 2009

Important thing Eternal....

Aerials have IASA frames (Luigi's fair is proof of this) so is there any way you can test the aerials for IASA frames?

Because I'm 99% sure Bair has IASA frames because you can SH bair and second jump, but you can't do that with nair, yet bair is 8 frames SLOWER? Hence it HAS to either have IASA frames, or you made a big mistake... :x

EDIT:

Also just an assumption (mistakes ARE possible) but I'd assume that if the other 2 auto-canceling aerials have 10 frames of landing lag, so would nair... you may have missed a frame when counting...

Looticforgothispassword · Apr 8, 2009

more exactly how many frames does a jab cancel take(false jab cancel, as in without crouching and follwed up by something like dsmash or grab or Up B, cause I guess crouching jab cancel adds on lets see 3 frames?), what is the first frame you can make the attack. I guess it as soon as the IASA frames and that if you make the three hit combo you can make it before the IASA or something. (I am going to make a lot of testing on the jab cancel soon so I need some extra data)

how many frames does a SHAD take, including: jumping, airdodging and landing. does links landing animation cancel the SHAD in the middle of the ivincibility frames?

ZhaR not czar · Apr 8, 2009

Wow. Excellent work. A while ago I was thinking about working that out myself, but I guess you took care of it for me.

Deva · Apr 9, 2009

I think the iasa frame data for nair and bair might be off. It says 9 for nair and 10 for bair o_0

SuSa · Apr 9, 2009

Those aren't IASA frames Deva. Those are landing lag frames.

And I think that 9 is supposed to be a 10. I believe all of Link's auto-canceling aerials have 10 frames of landing lag <_<

Deva · Apr 10, 2009

oh I see, the colors were misleadingly similar =P. Yeah, it was supposed to be 10 .

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