Metatitan
Smash Master
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Yoshi Moveset Discussion: Egg Toss
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Yosheon
Smash Cadet
It's a great move because of how much range it has. It's the best attack to use when aerial camping or regular camping, and the eggs are one of the most versatile projectiles in the game. They can be used for edgeguarding, distractions, mindgames, damage-racking, and much more. This attack is much better than the SSB64 and SSBM version mainly/only because you can use it to recover, which means Yoshi mains don't have to be as over-reliant on their second jump as they used to be.
I just wish the eggs did more damage and the vertical boosts for all five jumps was the same as the first one. Also, if somebody were to hit Yoshi during his egg toss recovery, it would've been nice if he could reuse all five jumps again.
I just wish the eggs did more damage and the vertical boosts for all five jumps was the same as the first one. Also, if somebody were to hit Yoshi during his egg toss recovery, it would've been nice if he could reuse all five jumps again.
Metatitan
Smash Master
we'd all be even more screwed than we are now without this move. this and pivot grabs are the heart of our camp game. eggs are amazing, probly his best move. u can use it for an approach like karamity does, there are so many techniques with it, recovering, ECE, ETS etc.
Airborne
Smash Lord
this move is basically the reason why we're not completely hopeless against marth -.-
Yosheon
Smash Cadet
Well, it's one of the moves that gives us hope against Marth. Don't forget about egg lay and pivot grabs.
Airborne
Smash Lord
it's the reason why we're not forced to approach... which is suicide against marth with our lovable yosh.
I think we can all agree that without Egg Toss, Yoshi would be one of the bottom characters in the game.
This move makes playing Yoshi much much easier, its very versatile and often the only real option you have. The eggs allow Yoshi far more control over the field and over how the game plays out, they outcamp many characters and can be deadly for characters without a projectile of their own. We can keep enemies at bay, clear a safe passage back onto the stage, excellent for spacing with ETS, approaching and they even help us recover.
But all of these benefits mean that you often see Yoshis overestimating the move and getting punished for it, a lot. There is a lot of ending lag on this move which can make it pretty ineffective against speedy characters coupled with the fact that the eggs are slow and easily avoided, not to mention they are rather lacking in blast radious. The only reason you should be using the egg toss up close is with ETS to dodge when you know it can work.
ETS is a great way to both increase and decrease the gap between you and the opponant, some characters can be very effectively camped with eggs along with pivot grabs and Dtilts. But when using ETS remember that it isn't always the best way to throw eggs, if space is not imortant then standing egg toss is faster to spam eggs. Approaching is also another great use of ETS against some characters, the biggest problem comes however from how easy it is to powershield the eggs. Good spacing is essential, mixing up approaching with retreating eggs. When you get in close, ETS > DT > Dtilt or Jab can work, just a shame about how much lag egg toss has.
Whilst ETS is great against ground opponants, where it really shines is in taking down airborn foes. Because the Egg Toss is so manuverable it covers pretty much anywhere above the stage. Characters who spend a lot of time in the air such as Wario, Marth or Jigglypuff can really suffer from having their movement and approaches messed up by eggs, or having to AD eggs. Which brings me onto a really great use of Egg Toss, Baiting the AD. As well all know, getting in the Usmash or Uair for a kill can be a tall order and we are all painfully aware of difficultys when it comes to killing with Yoshi. This is why egg toss is your best friend. Most enemies are going to AD an incoming egg in the air, and this is your chance to capitalize with a rising Uair or SH Uair/Usmash if they are low enough.
Another new thing I have been trying is wavebouncing the egg toss, really great for spacing. SHing toward them and wavebouncing the EggToss back can often causes them to think they can punish the toss and go for that over avoiding the egg.
Then of course you have ECE and using eggs off the edge, the primary use is clearing a path back to the stage which is very important for Yoshi being as gimpable as he is. ECE is amazing against people haven't learnt to overcome it.
Thats about all I have time to write.
This move makes playing Yoshi much much easier, its very versatile and often the only real option you have. The eggs allow Yoshi far more control over the field and over how the game plays out, they outcamp many characters and can be deadly for characters without a projectile of their own. We can keep enemies at bay, clear a safe passage back onto the stage, excellent for spacing with ETS, approaching and they even help us recover.
But all of these benefits mean that you often see Yoshis overestimating the move and getting punished for it, a lot. There is a lot of ending lag on this move which can make it pretty ineffective against speedy characters coupled with the fact that the eggs are slow and easily avoided, not to mention they are rather lacking in blast radious. The only reason you should be using the egg toss up close is with ETS to dodge when you know it can work.
ETS is a great way to both increase and decrease the gap between you and the opponant, some characters can be very effectively camped with eggs along with pivot grabs and Dtilts. But when using ETS remember that it isn't always the best way to throw eggs, if space is not imortant then standing egg toss is faster to spam eggs. Approaching is also another great use of ETS against some characters, the biggest problem comes however from how easy it is to powershield the eggs. Good spacing is essential, mixing up approaching with retreating eggs. When you get in close, ETS > DT > Dtilt or Jab can work, just a shame about how much lag egg toss has.
Whilst ETS is great against ground opponants, where it really shines is in taking down airborn foes. Because the Egg Toss is so manuverable it covers pretty much anywhere above the stage. Characters who spend a lot of time in the air such as Wario, Marth or Jigglypuff can really suffer from having their movement and approaches messed up by eggs, or having to AD eggs. Which brings me onto a really great use of Egg Toss, Baiting the AD. As well all know, getting in the Usmash or Uair for a kill can be a tall order and we are all painfully aware of difficultys when it comes to killing with Yoshi. This is why egg toss is your best friend. Most enemies are going to AD an incoming egg in the air, and this is your chance to capitalize with a rising Uair or SH Uair/Usmash if they are low enough.
Another new thing I have been trying is wavebouncing the egg toss, really great for spacing. SHing toward them and wavebouncing the EggToss back can often causes them to think they can punish the toss and go for that over avoiding the egg.
Then of course you have ECE and using eggs off the edge, the primary use is clearing a path back to the stage which is very important for Yoshi being as gimpable as he is. ECE is amazing against people haven't learnt to overcome it.
Thats about all I have time to write.