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Old 05-13-2009, 03:07 AM   #1
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Is This What You Call Entertainment And Fair Play?

So wes sends me this brawl video at apex and like Inlovewitlil: thats plank against puffster **** is so sad. so i'm like ightt let me watch..... first thing i noticed is that it went to 10 mins exact so i knew there was going to be camping....... but this is to the next level of what is capable in brawl crawl. Now i'm starting to understand why this community is so corrupted.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbmu8fGcWaw <----- click here to watch one of the worst matches in competitve gaming history


YA are either playing for money or to make a name for yourself.... then of course since [pros] think it's cool to have all of this stupidness in the game thinking they have a chance to win.... ya keep all of it. This game called super smash bros brawl was not meant for competitve play. look at plank...... no offense but that is not skill at all. he out jump a player with a super fast and safe move and all the diddy was capable of doing was throwing bananas....... does that make plank the better player? imagine if someone use a character with no projectiles against a mk like that.... then what?


Ya are blind. i play sf4 and it is nowhere near this stupid and i been playing actual pros now. i hear alot of people saying oh brawl plus sucks and it's stupid. I know why ya say it..... cause ya have no chance in that game. How can a game get any worse than brawl crawl? Brawl plus is already 4 times better for the simple fact is that there is no chain grabbing to the extreme or none at all, moves make a whole lot more sense, basically every character in the game has a chance to compete and the game can be tweaked at any time. ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT SUCK IN COMPETITVE PLAY WILL SAY OH THIS GAME SUCKS, CAUSE IT HAS TO MUCH STUN LMAO. I bet ya used to say the same for melee cause ya couldn't deal with the speed and being [TRULY] GOOD IN THE GAME.


I will be hosting brawl plus real soon and i am helping them with the development of the game. people who want to stick to brawl crawl and kill people with an uppercut from luigi at 40 percent or kill people with a one min and a half fart at 50-60 percent or chain throw someone with with falco, pikachu and ddd and rack up extreme amount of damage. Look at ic's with one grab and it's your whole stock.... even though honestly it doesn't look easy and i can't really judge that. LOOK at snake with his extreme disjointed hitboxes that hits literally 2 characters away...... when did snake have wind powers? In melee if you was realllly good and your opponent was really bad.... it would be 4 stock game.... in brawl if you are realllly good and your opponent is really bad..... you might get a 2 stock with high percent.

I can say there is few people in Brawl crawl with actual skill. I bet the other people will not ever touch brawl plus or play any other games that require true skill. if not prove me wrong and don't touch characters such as mk and let me see ya play another game...... and if you do good, then i can recongize you as a legit competitve player. This game will not evolve and only get more broken as times passes. When i saw the results and it show nothin but the same 5 characters down the list.... i said wes this is only a year old and it already has it's main stars lol. I LOVE smash just like the rest of ya, but lets all be honest.... THIS GAME DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT MUCH SKILL AND BRAINPOWER. My summer throwdowns is coming real soon just to let ya know so if ya are interested, oni163 is my aol name and i live in the bx. IF you are scare of black people, mexicans, people who look poor or an environment that doesn't look safe 100 percent... don't come. i been in the smash scene for years now and it seems like alot of ya are scare of something you don't quite understand. For the rest of ya... i have no problem with ya coming.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbmu8fGcWaw <---------- JUST IN CASE YOU FAIL TO SEE UP TOP. ONE OF THE WORST NON SKILL MATCHES IN HISTORY.

YouTube - SSBB - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QijsuAnngSY<----- here is another terrible campy match. the snake getting hit by lasers so he doesn't get chain.... TRUE SKILL AT IT'S FINEST AND THIS IS IN JAPAN LOL.

LETS SEE WHAT PEOPLE WILL SAY WHEN THEY SEE THESE MATCHES.

LiEkOmGWtFuWaNt: this **** is putting me to sleep
Oni163: lmao
LiEkOmGWtFuWaNt: is this all that happens?
Oni163: yea
LiEkOmGWtFuWaNt: this is ****ing boring


Oni163: what you think about those two matches/
youngfab268: them ****s is stiff
youngfab268: **** is ***
youngfab268: honestly its not his fault
youngfab268: its the game
youngfab268: hes just exploiting how bad it is lol


trademark0013: i been feelin that way fr a min ma dude
trademark0013: thats why i dont touch brawl unless its jus friends
trademark0013: 10 mins?
trademark0013: ****
trademark0013: lol



AznKreatzionz: **** that **** did look gay as hell
AznKreatzionz: its just so boring now... i dont even train no more because of it
AznKreatzionz: IF you are scare of black people, mexicans, people who look poor or an environment that doesn't look safe 100 percent... don't come
AznKreatzionz: lmao epic
Oni163: lolllll

XSilvenX: hehe
XSilvenX: good points
XSilvenX: haen't finished reading yet though
Oni163: thx man


Zr0777: **** that **** is crazy
Oni163: lol
Zr0777: that **** was horrible
Zr0777: if i was that diddy.... i deadass would have left it at 0% both sides
Zr0777: and wait for him to get stupid
Zr0777: cus he would never stop camping
Zr0777: people dont have to resort to that type of gameplay yet they do
Zr0777: just for the win
Zr0777: that snake match is mad gay
Zr0777: ***** came back invinceable and started camping all over again
Oni163: it's not only done in usa which is sad
Oni163: that tells you where the game level is at

Nolamoh: wow how u waste 8 mins Air Planking -_-
Oni163: you seen it?
Nolamoh: dude... Meta Knight stayed in the air for 7 mins
Nolamoh: and the other times he was on the ground
Oni163: what you thought about the match
Oni163: ;'
Nolamoh: well if i had to fast forward to the ending of the match, that tells u that it wasn't interesting at all
Oni163: wowww lol
Nolamoh: Meta Knight flow all across Kanto, collecting 8 badges in 8 mins with D-airs
Nolamoh: lol not even Ash got that far
Nolamoh: lol
Oni163: lol thats funny



Shadow000Link: lol why do people even bother..
Shadow000Link: you cant convince whack people to do shoryukens, or teach them! ^_^
Oni163: what you thought about the two matches?
Shadow000Link: uhh what matches?
Shadow000Link: lol
Shadow000Link: those werent matches
Oni163: lol
Shadow000Link: that was a waste of time
Shadow000Link: but about the shoryukens, people need to have skill to play SF. thats why i would money match any brawl player in SF
Shadow000Link: i got 2nd at the last brawl+ tournament. why? cause it involves some form of skill lol
Oni163: yup. you already beaten me in a 5 dollar mm.... i want pay back lol
Shadow000Link: haha word
Oni163: but i admit you was the better man
Oni163: that took skill
Shadow000Link: thank you, and i know you are right there


Oni163: what did you think about those two matches
Inlovewitlil: its sad
Inlovewitlil: a disgraces to competitiver gaming
Inlovewitlil: when money is on the line people do anything
Oni163: very true


Sukalottagrinco: im mad he left it there on the character select screen
Sukalottagrinco: with that song xD
Oni163: who?
Sukalottagrinco: plank vs diddy
Oni163: so what you thought about those 2 matches?
Sukalottagrinco: its brawl lol
Sukalottagrinco: they were both just playing the game
Sukalottagrinco: imo
Sukalottagrinco: plank isnt wrong by doing what he did
Sukalottagrinco: nor is it the other guyz fault
Sukalottagrinco: its just the characters themselves
Oni163: you think brawl plus should take over?
Sukalottagrinco: MK doesnt wana get banana comboed and Diddy is playing his banana game cuz its really all he has vs tornado and just his gameplay period
Sukalottagrinco: it shuld dominate the community i dont think it shuld take over
Sukalottagrinco: like reg brawl is good but when 2 ppl are playing the game well thats what u get ._.
Oni163: what you mean two people
Sukalottagrinco: like plank and the other guy
Sukalottagrinco: ppl who know what each other is guna go for and know how to counter it
Oni163: i vouch for the game and alwayd protected it.....but you don't think the game is getting worse and worse with time passing by and broken stuff being found?
Sukalottagrinco: lol def. getting a lot worse
Oni163: thats why i say brawl plus has to take over
Oni163: at least when you lose.... you losing to the better man
Sukalottagrinco: i wouldnt say that
Sukalottagrinco: until the game is 100% done
Sukalottagrinco: cuz rite now brawl+ is just broken
Sukalottagrinco: small characters still have the higher chance of winning
Oni163: very true... but just the fact that everything can be fixed is why it's the better game automatically.
Oni163: but yea it's [less broken] and still needs alot of tweaking
Sukalottagrinco: yea
Sukalottagrinco: i say brawl+ wont be perfect but itll be better then reg brawl
Oni163: if the developers listen and make things alot more balance..... it can be a great game that would be played for years like melee
Sukalottagrinco: yea
Oni163: the simple fact that those players have to played like that and so many broken tactics and things having to be banned just to make the game playable..... is the reason why brawl doesn't require skill and is not competitve


sevenpiecesix: the game hasnt changed AT ALL, like i mean **** man i can watch sf4 matches from december and then sf matches from like april and i dont even play the game but i can see OBVIOUS differences
Oni163: exactly.
sevenpiecesix: like the different combos and ****
Oni163: it's not evolving


DarkDragoonBrawl: Hey Bum! Giving you a thumbs up on that Brawl+ stuff.
Oni163: thx appericate it
DarkDragoonBrawl: I've been plugging it all over the place in CT, and its kinda catching on. I haven't been able to boot up vBrawl since getting the codes going.
Oni163: who this
DarkDragoonBrawl: DarkDragoon
Oni163: oh ok
DarkDragoonBrawl: But yea. I started up that match, left it going while I made a sandwhich, came back, and thought I had it paused because it looked the same.
Oni163: lmao serious?
DarkDragoonBrawl: Seriously.
DarkDragoonBrawl: After the first 2 minutes, I realized it was all going to be repeating.
Oni163: i'm just trying to let the community know thats it's still in the same level after a year plus. i'm not trying to bash it and be a ****. i just want to inform people of the situation cause it seems like they are not aware of it.



Sneak8288: **** i just read ur post... finally someone exposed why the brawl noobs dont like brawl+... they know they will get they're **** raped if they cant air dodge outta every hit
Oni163: yup. i'm shedding the light and being honest
Oni163: i'm not the bad guy. i'm the guy that will tell you the deal
Sneak8288: yea... its ridiculous when u can play the game for like 2 days and play almost every character and it would be tourney level
Oni163: exactly
Oni163: i have to train in games like gow 2 and sf4 just to stay in tip top shape
Oni163: ighttt. but so what you thought about what i said
Sneak8288: like u hit the problem right on the head... i remember i was talkin to wes, dire, n i think blu chu was there on the way back from cot4 about it
Sneak8288: and how gay brawl is becoming
Sneak8288: and that **** is just gettin worse and worse
Oni163: it's true
Sneak8288: but im glad plank exploits how stupid the game actually is
Oni163: and what is possible to win
Sneak8288: like.. yea u might get turtled in sf4 but that **** is very beatable


yes2good9487: It's the least fun I've ever had with a game. It takes zero skill to play, and the game revolves around mindless camping. It's the only way to win. Games last for so long because there's no hitstun, and it's impossible to gimp someone unless they're Link. Camping involves one character spamming ****, and if the other character has to chase, they do this for a minute or so. Once the chaser catches the camper, the camper takes about 10% damage and the camping resets. How is that fun, and how is that preferred by people over brawl+ where all the skill-less chaingrabs and infinites are gone? I just don't get it...
Oni163: yo that is the best one i seen lol


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Old 05-13-2009, 03:31 AM   #2
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It's understood that Brawl+ stands no chance of being mainstream due to it's uber-hax0r'dness but as far as huge player-held tourneys are concerned (such as APEX aka GAYSEX) perhaps now that the power to balance to game is in our hands, it'd be smart to use it effectively and create a better, more fun competitive game.

It is indeed not their faults, because it is the game being that bad...but Brawl+ retains the ability to be tweaked at first sign of imbalance.

I'm down for Brawl+
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:36 AM   #3
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I have to agree with Bum on this one. Brawl has gotten so boring just because of this type of playstyle. To be fair, it's Plank and we all know how he plays. Also, the games mechanics lend itself to be played like this. Its sad that we're only going to see more of this for about another 6 years.

All I can say is if people want a more intense game, either play SFIV, wait til Brawl + gets finalized as the tournament standard, or ban the broken characters in Brawl.
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:46 AM   #4
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LOLOLOL I'm sooo agreeing with this right now. And props to Dire and his uber making senseness hehe.
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:50 AM   #5
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All I can say is if people want a more intense game, either play SFIV, wait til Brawl + gets finalized as the tournament standard, or ban the broken characters in Brawl.
Good effing point. I totally agree with those 3 choices...and Meta Knight is still a bit broken in Brawl + 4.1 so that has to change real fast
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:49 AM   #6
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some people put up with it, have fun as they do gay sht. bum if you dont like it, brawl + or sf4 play those then. ur really good at brawl crawl tho, you win money why not advance the game so that its not so turtle-ish
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:15 AM   #7
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Because there is no advancing to be made, Seph. The game is based on camping. Why fight when there are no combos, hitstun and in some cases you get punished for hitting your opponent.

Camping is waaaay better. You can camp and camp and camp. If your opponent catches you, you take 10% and then go back to camping until they catch you again, which doesn't happen quite often. In brawl+, I admit I camp like a gay, but my fox gets combo'd and raped for being caught.

SF4 I can't say much because I main Zangief lmfao...Lariat2goodz
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:35 AM   #8
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This is why I only played Brawl+ while I was at Apex. (btw, Chu vs Yes! Brawl+ finals were waaaaay more intense and fast-paced and entertaining than M2K vs Ally Brawl finals)

Plank is my hero. Brawl is a stupid uncompetitive game and any time he can make people hate it, I would count that as a win.

Hope to see you all in Philly this weekend. Raphael is getting antsy.
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:52 AM   #9
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I hope you're kidding with sf4 being a more intense game.......You have to turtle aka camp to win in that lol

O btw I didn't watch the whole match (skipped thru it) but I sure did find it entertaining in a funny way. I also find this thread funny..... a wall of text was written to bash that match, which makes it even more funny. lol good stuff plank

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Old 05-13-2009, 09:06 AM   #10
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hahah i thought this match was funny as ****. it did i dunno intentionally or not, but it did make a complete and utter mockery of this game lol ^.^

which makes me happy.
b/c brawl is a joke.
hahhahahhaha
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:17 AM   #11
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those are just vids of people who are bad at the game. the diddy just wasn't good enough/smart enough to get around Plank's simple strategy. Plank probably wasn't better at the game, but he is definitely a lot smarter

i could definitely post an equally boring match of Dhalsim vs Sagat in SFIV
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sadly diddy has a -better- chance against this strategy than a lot of characters. im gonna be doing stuff like this a lot more coming up...
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sadly diddy has a -better- chance against this strategy than a lot of characters. im gonna be doing stuff like this a lot more coming up...
I am going to forfeit against you, there is literally nothing I could do against that as anyone that isn't snake/MK and I don't play MK and just picked up snake because of that video
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Yeah, i was considering doing it to waltz when i played him in tourney. But i didn't, he's not -that- lame of a player. But in retrospect I wish I did, **** is annoying to fight. Oh well, next time! :P
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plank was in the air for 5.4 minutes in that match

how bout a air time rule along with ledge grabs lol
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