Lucario vs. ROB EXPORT

Rayku said:

ROB's best style of play is a campy style. When you're at a high enough percent, he'll start using his primary kill moves: Nair, Bair, and usmash. However, usmash is very predictable, and if you know for a fact he's going to do it, a dair comes out faster. Bair has a lingering hitbox that's a pain, but it's hard to kill with it unless you get hit with the initial burner. Nair comes out of NOWHERE and has a lingering hitbox similar to Ike's uair (it stays at the same power until the move is over).

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Sawdust said:

His ground game is difficult to combat, since his tilts and smashes are all very difficult to punish. Our front smash outranges him (although that could be said about anybody) and is usually a good option as long as youre spacing well. He can also usually win a camp war, unless you happen to be much better than your opponent at countercamping. I tend to just charge an AS and save it until an oppritunity arises. He has a reflector, but it's REALLY slow and can be punished pretty consistently with a fsmash if you dont shoot, so it's unlikely he will use it much.

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Wolydarg said:

When you're close to 100%, ROB shouldn't be firing any more lasers because he's trying to save the laser to the fully charged (20 seconds) version which has significantly more knockback and will kill you from a mile away.

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Col. Stauffenberg said:

I'd rather deal with nair in the air than tilts and dsmash on the ground.

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ZOM~B said:

Nair is slow. It shouldn't hit you unless you jump into it, get hit by a shield poking hovered Nair (not likely against Lucario), or if you fail to shield.

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Wolydarg said:

ROB's kill moves are fsmash, nair, bair, and upsmash. Nair/bair are slow and telegraphed, fsmash is limited by range quite a bit, and upsmash gets owned by your dair. This means you should be living a long time if you can avoid the kill moves which means strong aura.

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Rayku said:

I find one of the best tactics to use against ROB is to charge your Aura Sphere all the way, and not shoot it. That will keep them on their toes, and one that thinks they're smarter than you will start using their Forward B to try and reflect it. If anything, it makes them very nervous, and they'll sometimes forget about your other kill moves. ROB himself has trouble killing (On Yoshi's Story, with proper DI, it's possible to live to the high 100%'s quite consistently. I've gotten as high as 267%). At this percent, we all know that Lucario can consistently kill at 100% and below. ROB is huge, and heavy, even though he has a pretty bad momentum-canceling move.

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Timbers said:

Luc's dair beats ROB's uair, but keep in mind that ROB's uair does have a greater horizontal hitbox on it than Luc's dair. He can snag you from the side with it.

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phi1ny3 said:

btw, gyro gets killed completely by shielding it, doesn't even have as much shieldstun as it should for its type of projectile.

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Col. Stauffenberg said:

Also I love Battlefield for this matchup. Probably more than I love it for any other matchup.

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ZOM~B said:

For counterpicks I would recommend somewhere small with platforms. Battlefield and Yoshi's Island come to mind. Be wary of the small boundaries on both stages though. I would avoid Lylat Cruise (And Jungle Japes where legal). Pokemon Stadium 1 might be a decent counterpick if you can deal with the ledge solely because some transformations force close combat.

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