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It's been said that when your opponent manages to grab a Peanut you should not change your gameplay or approaches at all. When they have one of your bananas in hand, however, things change; they can throw it at you to halt an approach, Z-Drop it in the air, or Glide Toss away from you, throw it off the stage to get rid of it, as well as an assortment of other things.
Now, assuming they already have a banana, what should or would you do in the following situations where your opponent has a banana, character-independent?
Glide Tossing and DACITs are other, character-dependent, factors that must be considered. How would these effect the responses to the above situation if their Glide Toss/DACIT is
Finally, the current state of all bananas on the field comes into play. What if
Not many opponents will give you much time to think once they have a banana in hand; in fact, a lot of the time they will inadvertently pick up a banana in a lucky airdodge or Neutral-A when trying to Jab and might not even realize they have a banana at all! When they do, however, the risks/rewards of approaching, attacking, or defending against an opponent with one of your bananas is something that is becoming more and more important as they learn to use our bananas against us. So, what do you do in response to the above cases?
Note: I’ll keep the OP updated with strategies/tips for each of the cases if it doesn’t get too confusing. Also, I'm not putting in any of my own input because this is actually a very elaborate question of my own that I felt needed asking for the community as well.
EDIT: The best response that ended the discussion by itself: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7476617&postcount=5
Now, assuming they already have a banana, what should or would you do in the following situations where your opponent has a banana, character-independent?
- Up Close
You are within range to attack your opponent with low-range moves like Jab or U-Tilt. Hitting your opponent may dislodge the banana from their hand, making you trip; they could also throw it at you (though it may go through you) or Z-Drop it to make you trip. - Mid Range
You are within range to tipper a Dash Attack or strike with a Side-B kick or hump. Here your opponent can throw the banana at you to stop an oncoming attack or begin an offensive. - Long Distance
Here you can just barely hit a Smash Side-B kick, if even that. Your opponent can easily set up the banana to make approaching considerably more difficult.
Glide Tossing and DACITs are other, character-dependent, factors that must be considered. How would these effect the responses to the above situation if their Glide Toss/DACIT is
- Short
Shorter than Diddy's Glide Toss; within dribbling range - Medium
The length of Diddy's Glide Toss or a bit longer; within dribbling range at the shorter end of the spectrum - Long
Meta Knight, Pit, and Luigi all have Glide Tosses this length. Some DACITs fall into this category.
Finally, the current state of all bananas on the field comes into play. What if
- No banana
There is no other banana in play - One banana, your control
There is another banana on the field under your control - One banana, their control
There is another banana on the field under their control - Banana in hand
You are holding the other banana
Not many opponents will give you much time to think once they have a banana in hand; in fact, a lot of the time they will inadvertently pick up a banana in a lucky airdodge or Neutral-A when trying to Jab and might not even realize they have a banana at all! When they do, however, the risks/rewards of approaching, attacking, or defending against an opponent with one of your bananas is something that is becoming more and more important as they learn to use our bananas against us. So, what do you do in response to the above cases?
Note: I’ll keep the OP updated with strategies/tips for each of the cases if it doesn’t get too confusing. Also, I'm not putting in any of my own input because this is actually a very elaborate question of my own that I felt needed asking for the community as well.
EDIT: The best response that ended the discussion by itself: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7476617&postcount=5