Diddy Kong's Barrels of Matchups~ [MAIN INDEX]

DFEAR said:

* Jiggleypuff -

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Ratio: 45:55 Jigglypuff's Favor
Summary of character: If you thought Kirby and Mk were hard for Diddy, Jigglypuff will be your worst nightmare. In this matchup, Jigglypuff will HARDLY EVER touch the ground. She has the second fastest aerial speed, has 6 jumps, and has the slowest falling speed. She also has this move called Pound where she can attack you on the ground with a huge amount of priority w/o having to worry about getting hit by your bananas. The most banana combos your going to get in this match will be no more than 3 if your lucky when playing a good Jigglypuff. The good thing about this match is that shes the lightest character in the game and you can easily kill her which makes up for not being able to hit with your smash attacks.

Air Game: The ground is your best friend in this match because if Jigglypuff gets you off the stage theres a good chance your screwed regardless off %. Whatever you do stay ABOVE Jigglypuff when she knocks you off. Jigglypuff has a super long sex kick which completely stops your b foward and gaurentee the kill if it hits your rocket barrel .

Ground Game: If at any moment your somehow able to catch her on the ground immediately use your dash attack. Jiggs' ground game is super slow and she can't do **** especially out of your dash attack. Don't let her grab you though because she has some of the most damaging grabs in the game (each do 11% and a pummel does 3% each). Another thing to worry about is her d air, she can quickly jump and hit you with it and you better know how to DI it because if your at high % your going to get hit by rest. At lower %'s she'll mix her dair game up by either grabbing you after it or DI away after to make you do a U smash thinking that she'll try to combo you after it. The d air has diagonal hit boxes and its out there for a long time. Jigglypuff may not have a glide toss but shes very scary when she has a banana in her hands. If you try sheilding the banana she will follow up with pound which if your shield is less than 50% it will break giving Jigglypuff the chance to do a free fsmash or dsmash. If your near the ledge and you are playing against a smart Jigglypuff they will use the d smash and when that thing is charged your sent flying away and downards from the stage and trust me after that you won't be able to recover. Jigglypuff can also follow up with Rest but that dosn't happen much since its to risky. I haven't mentioned this much because it shouldn't be something to worry about but don't forget about rollout. Although Jigglypuff will slip on a nana out of rollout and thowing a naner at her will stop her also if this hits you you will die if your above 60% and thats something you don't want. Jigglypuff can also reverse b the startup in the air so it might look like shes charging towards you but actually shes going to go the opposite way and then hit you after you mis timed your attack or jump. The safest thing to do here is stay in the air the whole time. If she's still charging and your out of jumps quickly fall and then jump again. Don't sheild this because she can turn it 3 to 4 times which will either sheild poke you or break your shield.

What to avoid: Basically being off the stage. Also some Jigglypuffs have masterd this but not many. This is going to be scarey but Jigglypuff can rest out of multi hit combos. Meaning she can rest you out of your Fsmash, U smash, and AAA jab. Never ever use these smashes against them if your at high % and you know your playing a good puff. I wouldn't be surprised if some even tried to trick you by purpously missing a rest just to hit you with rest easier.

What to use: Fair fair fair. It out priorities Jigglypuffs fair and all of her other moves. Of course its going to be much harder for you to time it correctly since you don't have the arieal mobility that Jigglypuff has. But you CAN beat her in the air.

Counter picks: Jigglypuff is bad at stages with short ceilings or stages where she can't gimp you. Bring her to places such as FD, Castle Siege, Halberd, and SV. Jigglypuff on the other hand, has a ton load of cps against you such as Japes, Brinstar, RC, Norfair, Lylat, YI, BF, and Frigate. Don't be afraid of Jigglypuff if she cps' with Delfino, its not THAT good for her and most of the time its very hard for them to hit with rest in the water. You have a dair which will kill them regardless of % and you have a better chance at hitting them with it.

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Mmac said:

It would be nice if they deleted all of his post's though....

Anyways new chart for you guys to use

Just add in the Title and Numbers yourself. Simple!

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Count said:

Donkey Kong is DEFINITELY NOT a disadvantage for diddy kong. At least even, and I think it is a slight advantage for diddy. The only time I lose to donkey kong is if I feel I'm being severely outplayed. I've played against ripple and ook, the top two donkey kongs in the MW. Donkey kong can't handle nanas and combos. I've beaten ripple and I lost to ook 2-1 in an extremely close set. I only lost because by the end of the last game he was reading me like a book.

While donkey kong was at an advantage vs diddy early in brawl's meta game, he no longer has the tools to contend with diddy. I think others will agree with me.

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.Tero said:

Wouldn't it be better do discuss all the MU and then summarize the discussion instead of just adding stuff?
I feel like we should rather do it like all the other character boards.

I'd suggest creating a topic for each MU and use this as an index topic.

I'm not sure if you plan to do something like that, but from what I read it doesn't look like it.

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Coyn3Masta said:

nice dfear =3

once again, ill bring this up >_>

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Kaptain Kong said:

nice edit, and make sure you post the links to the individual discussions by their name or sumthin

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The Sauce Boss said:

Can you make it so you don't have to scroll horizontally? Other than that it looks good.

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Ingulit said:

Get a bigger screen xD EDIT: Actually, I agree; make the dividers shorter to get rid of some of the width. It is stretching the screen a lot.

So, are we going down the new tier list for the order of discussoins? Perhaps we should start with the universally acknowledged match-ups that are unfavorable for Diddy (Luigi, Marth, Peach, Falco-ish, etc.), and then start moving down the list. That way we can get to Luigi and Peach sooner.

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Le_THieN said:

Yes, I actually wanted to avoid well-known, beaten-to-death match-ups like Meta Knight and Snake probably until after the summer season was over so we can navigate and dissect rarer, more obscure, or more questionable match-ups that have been popping up recently. Participation is currently lacking in the MK discussion right now because...well, it's kind of boring to talk about since we've been talking about him for a year now.

I had a very specific template in mind for the timing of the discussions and character selections, but this is no longer my project. The only thing that's lacking in your vision is that it is more focused on presentation than it is about galvanizing discussion. Let's see if we can get the ball rolling more effectively.

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4RCE said:

I like this, but wouldn't it help us then if you showed us the template...
I don't think we should necessarily spend a week on each discussion. Maybe we could have it go on for a week or two but start another discussion while this one is going. Also, has anyone posted this in the Meta Knight boards? I'd like to get some of their feedback. If no one has I can.

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DFEAR said:

imma change the characters every 3 days? is that enough? im changing chars now metaknight is obvious.

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Y462 said:

You guys should discuss two characters at once to finish things much faster.

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