Eggm
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So I was messing around with Yohsi and discovered something that actually works quite well for a few other characters too (Possibly even all, but some might be too hard to be worth learning).
What is it?
Basically it seems to be a way to land lagless on any surface from a jump or double jump. It can be the bottom of the level or it can be on a platform.
How is it done?
Crouch Landing is performed by performing an ariel right as your passing through the platform around when your character would be standing on it, so basically when your character is touching the bottom.
What characters is it useful for?
So far I have found that's its extremely useful for Sheik/Yoshi/samus. Its not too hard to perform with Pikachu either. I'm also still experimenting with ganondorf and others. I think it potentially works for all characters its just really hard with some, but don't quote me on this. I have faith that dedicated falcon mains can make use of it also after further testing.
Why not just waveland straight down??
I have tested this a bunch, but some one with AR should double check, but this seems to have virtually 0 frames of lag compared to wavelanding down's 10 frames (assuming you do it perfect). Combine th fact that your probably not wavelanding down perfectly theres about 10-15 frames of lag doing it this way as oppose to like 0 or 1 performing a Crouch Land.
Do Not get it confused with PC dropping.
If your are not familar with what PC dropping is please watch this video real fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMxg...F4B3AB94&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=19
Its at the end of the vid. While watching it please note that while pc dropping you have to drop down to the precise spot that when you jump back up you barley get on the platform. With Crouch Landing this is not necessary at all. You can be passing through it with any type of height left in your jump and all that good stuff and still Crouch land on it provided your timing is good.
Key differences to look for in PC dropping and this. No smoke is visible when you are PC dropping, however there is during Crouch Landing. Also your chraacter doesn't crouch during PC dropping it just like "pops" back up onto the platform. If you sucessfuly Crouch Land you will see your character crouch and that little bit of smoke.
Suggesitons :
I would start trying to learn this with yoshi as its by far the easiest (kinda like luigi and Wding). I would also suggest nair for him. All of his ariels work, but hitting A seems easiet with yoshi. For Sheik I suggest using Up - Air (On the c-stick) Same Sheik for samus and pikahu. All 3 of thoes chars its easiest to use up on the c-stick to get this techinque to work (In fact it might be necessary I couldn't do it with their other ariels).
If your trying it and its not working, what I did to make it easier for myself was PC dropped a few times then right as i knew my character was gonna land did the proper ariel. Then i payed attention to where in space my character was in relation to the platform and i was able to do it out of just full jumps and double jumps that would have otherwise more than cleared the platform.
Applications (Why is it useful?) :
Lets say you hit some one up onto the middle plaform on Deramland. You want to get up there to tech chas with a ground attack but you fear wavelanding down will take too long, with this you can get up there as fast as possible and possibly hit with a ground move that you might not be able to.
You can move around platforms faster and space yourself and mindgame better using this than normal wavelands with certain characters like yoshi.
Its useful for recovering with yohsi ganon and samus also. As let go of the edge and start jumping back on you use this similar to wavelanding down but faster which is also cool.
Final Thoughts :
Let me know what you think about this new AT (Melee is still finding new ones after 8 years amazing).
Also please post videos of you doing it with other characters or better than me with the characters In my video. Or doing combos that aren't otherwise possible without it. For example Up smashing some one onto the platform above then wanting to follow up but normally the 10 frames from waveland lag make you too slow, but now you can. Something along those lines.
Any new way you see to apply this please post here and I will update the why is it useful section accordingly.
Oh also Crouch landing is by no means pernament if you guys come up with a better name, then we can name it that. Just something off the top of my head.
Video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m011w0YT-lo
So I was messing around with Yohsi and discovered something that actually works quite well for a few other characters too (Possibly even all, but some might be too hard to be worth learning).
What is it?
Basically it seems to be a way to land lagless on any surface from a jump or double jump. It can be the bottom of the level or it can be on a platform.
How is it done?
Crouch Landing is performed by performing an ariel right as your passing through the platform around when your character would be standing on it, so basically when your character is touching the bottom.
What characters is it useful for?
So far I have found that's its extremely useful for Sheik/Yoshi/samus. Its not too hard to perform with Pikachu either. I'm also still experimenting with ganondorf and others. I think it potentially works for all characters its just really hard with some, but don't quote me on this. I have faith that dedicated falcon mains can make use of it also after further testing.
Why not just waveland straight down??
I have tested this a bunch, but some one with AR should double check, but this seems to have virtually 0 frames of lag compared to wavelanding down's 10 frames (assuming you do it perfect). Combine th fact that your probably not wavelanding down perfectly theres about 10-15 frames of lag doing it this way as oppose to like 0 or 1 performing a Crouch Land.
Do Not get it confused with PC dropping.
If your are not familar with what PC dropping is please watch this video real fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMxg...F4B3AB94&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=19
Its at the end of the vid. While watching it please note that while pc dropping you have to drop down to the precise spot that when you jump back up you barley get on the platform. With Crouch Landing this is not necessary at all. You can be passing through it with any type of height left in your jump and all that good stuff and still Crouch land on it provided your timing is good.
Key differences to look for in PC dropping and this. No smoke is visible when you are PC dropping, however there is during Crouch Landing. Also your chraacter doesn't crouch during PC dropping it just like "pops" back up onto the platform. If you sucessfuly Crouch Land you will see your character crouch and that little bit of smoke.
Suggesitons :
I would start trying to learn this with yoshi as its by far the easiest (kinda like luigi and Wding). I would also suggest nair for him. All of his ariels work, but hitting A seems easiet with yoshi. For Sheik I suggest using Up - Air (On the c-stick) Same Sheik for samus and pikahu. All 3 of thoes chars its easiest to use up on the c-stick to get this techinque to work (In fact it might be necessary I couldn't do it with their other ariels).
If your trying it and its not working, what I did to make it easier for myself was PC dropped a few times then right as i knew my character was gonna land did the proper ariel. Then i payed attention to where in space my character was in relation to the platform and i was able to do it out of just full jumps and double jumps that would have otherwise more than cleared the platform.
Applications (Why is it useful?) :
Lets say you hit some one up onto the middle plaform on Deramland. You want to get up there to tech chas with a ground attack but you fear wavelanding down will take too long, with this you can get up there as fast as possible and possibly hit with a ground move that you might not be able to.
You can move around platforms faster and space yourself and mindgame better using this than normal wavelands with certain characters like yoshi.
Its useful for recovering with yohsi ganon and samus also. As let go of the edge and start jumping back on you use this similar to wavelanding down but faster which is also cool.
Final Thoughts :
Let me know what you think about this new AT (Melee is still finding new ones after 8 years amazing).
Also please post videos of you doing it with other characters or better than me with the characters In my video. Or doing combos that aren't otherwise possible without it. For example Up smashing some one onto the platform above then wanting to follow up but normally the 10 frames from waveland lag make you too slow, but now you can. Something along those lines.
Any new way you see to apply this please post here and I will update the why is it useful section accordingly.
Oh also Crouch landing is by no means pernament if you guys come up with a better name, then we can name it that. Just something off the top of my head.
Video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m011w0YT-lo
