PSA 0.2 Beta discussion topic.

PKNintendo · Aug 3, 2009

Phantom Wings has just released PSA to the public.

It can be found here
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=244302

Character pac files can be found here.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ttdzjrlj1rz

decimal to hex converter,
http://babbage.cs.qc.edu/IEEE-754/Decimal.html

http://babbage.cs.qc.edu/IEEE-754/32bit.html

cookieM0Nster said:
Animation ID labels

Action ID labels

Hope it helps.

Paprika's guide on PSA
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=243626

Seikishidan Soru · Aug 3, 2009

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=7889366

Ampharos's Action ID thread. Likely to be useful.

Gigas_Deth · Aug 3, 2009

About time this thread was made.

SymphonicSage12 · Aug 3, 2009

So, any ideas on how to fix the error reading file problem?

Like where I'm not allowed to open pac files, even if only one program is open.

Gigas_Deth · Aug 3, 2009

SymphonicSage12 said:
So, any ideas on how to fix the error reading file problem?

Like where I'm not allowed to open pac files, even if only one program is open.

Have tried PMing PW yet?

PKNintendo · Aug 3, 2009

I'm pretty sure he doesn't want anymore PMs.

ph00tbag · Aug 3, 2009

SymphonicSage12 said:
So, any ideas on how to fix the error reading file problem?

Like where I'm not allowed to open pac files, even if only one program is open.

I'm having the same problem. The Readme isn't very helpful here. It just says I can only open .pacs "without numbers." Is that referring to the file name? Because renaming the file does nothing.

Gigas_Deth · Aug 3, 2009

PKNintendo said:
I'm pretty sure he doesn't want anymore PMs.

Good point. Just be patient SS, it's hard to use anyway.

Sr. P & R · Aug 3, 2009

Wow, this is really confusing. I'm glad that the commands are kind of similar to VB, but that is the only part that doesn't confuse me a lot.

I don't know if I'll ever be able to use it correctly.

Also, can you create a new file or do you have to start with an already created .pac file?

Isatis · Aug 3, 2009

You need the PAC without numbers. Here's Falco's fighter folder for example:

Code:

game:\figher\falco\

- Directory Listing: -
FitFalco.pac
FitFalco00.pac
FitFalco00.pcs
FitFalco01.pac
FitFalco02.pcs
FitFalco02.pac
FitFalco03.pcs
FitFalco03.pac
FitFalco04.pcs
FitFalco04.pac
FitFalco05.pcs
FitFalco05.pac
FitFalcoDark.pac
FitFalcoDark.pcs
FitFalcoEntry.pac
FitFalcoMotionEtc.pac
FitFalcoSpy.pac
FitFalcoSpy.pcs

You need FitFalco.pac only to open this, none of the others.

Sushi21 · Aug 3, 2009

Shadic said:
Yes, it worked. Open up a character, click on the attributes tab, find stuff you want to modify, figure out what the original decimal value is, think of an appropriate/fun value to change it to, convert that value to a float, throw it in box next to "value," and have fun. Simple stuff is simple.

I thought it would be useful if anyone wanted to change attributes.

Shadic said:
Use this, and this.
.

And some conversion websites.

leafgreen386 · Aug 3, 2009

SuperSonicRacin said:
You need PACFighter.pac only (will edit w/ more info)...

Wrong.

You're looking for FitCharacter.pac files, which you can find here: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=230551

FitCharacter.pac (NOT FitCharacter##.pac) is what contains all the hitbox data for moves.

timothyung · Aug 3, 2009

lol. The character scripts are in Fit<CharacterName>.pac. You can't open a file with no scripts with PSA

Yingyay · Aug 3, 2009

Im gonna try adding PH-Mario's running effects to Sheik, but one thing im concerned with is if it will even draw the fire effect since certain effects are tied in with characters.

Isatis · Aug 3, 2009

leafgreen386 said:
Wrong.

You're looking for FitCharacter.pac files, which you can find here: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=230551

FitCharacter.pac (NOT FitCharacter##.pac) is what contains all the hitbox data for moves.

Already edited it before you posted lol

Gigas_Deth · Aug 3, 2009

Yingyay said:
Im gonna try adding PH-Mario's running effects to Sheik, but one thing im concerned with is if it will even draw the fire effect since certain effects are tied in with characters.

Be the first to make this discovery.

cookieM0Nster · Aug 3, 2009

Yingyay said:
Im gonna try adding PH-Mario's running effects to Sheik, but one thing im concerned with is if it will even draw the fire effect since certain effects are tied in with characters.

Could you tell me how you edit running EFFECTS? i.e. the fire from Phoenix Mario.

SymphonicSage12 · Aug 3, 2009

I already have the files without the numbers, smart one! I try to open "FitMarth.pac" etc etc. but when I Try to open it, it says "error reading file".

Unknownlight · Aug 3, 2009

[FitCharacter].PAC just will not open. It just says "Error Reading File". I've redownloaded the program mulitple times... but nothing. I even tried opening the Phenoix Mario PAC file, since I know that that should work, but no.

I'm using Windows Vista. Would that make any difference?

Gigas_Deth · Aug 3, 2009

Unknownlight said:
[FitCharacter].PAC just will not open. It just says "Error Reading File". I've redownloaded the program mulitple times... but nothing. I even tried opening the Phenoix Mario PAC file, since I know that that should work, but no.

I'm using Windows Vista. Would that make any difference?

I also use vista, and it's working fine.

SymphonicSage12 · Aug 3, 2009

I have the exact same situation as unknownlight.

Isatis · Aug 3, 2009

Where are you guys downloading it from? I think you're trying to open a texture file pac.

Gigas_Deth · Aug 3, 2009

Sushi21 said:
I thought it would be useful if anyone wanted to change attributes.

And some conversion websites.

How do I convert to a float?

Unknownlight · Aug 3, 2009

SuperSonicRacin said:
Where are you guys downloading it from? I think you're trying to open a texture file pac.

No, I'm not.

"I even tried opening the Pheonix Mario PAC file, since I know that that should work, but no."

EDIT: And I'm downloading from here.

Yingyay · Aug 3, 2009

Lol I have failed with trying to create flame effects using pheonix mario's running scripts to sheik.

- The effect files are probably character specific so i probably have to use an advance script to draw mario's flame effects on sheik.
- Nothing showed up when I had sheik run back and forth. Imma try differennt numbers/values later.

D.B.K. · Aug 3, 2009

I've got a problem. I finally figured out how to do the attributes properly but everytime I save the pac to my SD card and select Toon Link the game crashes. Any help?

Unknownlight · Aug 3, 2009

To be more specific, I follow this route:

Data Partition (NTSC-U) --> fighter --> mario --> FitMario.pac (first one).

I'm doing everything right, but it won't work.

Yingyay · Aug 3, 2009

DaBunanaKing said:
I've got a problem. I finally figured out how to do the attributes properly but everytime I save the pac to my SD card and select Toon Link the game crashes. Any help?

Toon Link refuses to adapt to change. Other than that i dunno.

RyuReiatsu · Aug 3, 2009

DaBunanaKing said:
I've got a problem. I finally figured out how to do the attributes properly but everytime I save the pac to my SD card and select Toon Link the game crashes. Any help?

Try it out on another character.

D.B.K. · Aug 3, 2009

I got it working now. It turns out that the SD card I was using is a piece of ****. Tried another one and everything works fine now.

Edit: His dash-dance is the length of Final Destination o.0

SymphonicSage12 · Aug 3, 2009

I go to downloads>smash attacks> open the program, click open, select "FitCaptain.pac" and it says "error reading file". It's not a texture pack, it's the ****ing right thing.

Yingyay · Aug 3, 2009

DaBunanaKing said:
I got it working now. It turns out that the SD card I was using is a piece of ****. Tried another one and everything works fine now.

Edit: His dash-dance is the length of Final Destination o.0

XD Beast Mode!

Well, now im in the process of figuring out element effects.
1) How do I give certain attacks certain effects
2) The ID of character specific effects

lordxzsawq21 · Aug 3, 2009

Yingyay said:
Im gonna try adding PH-Mario's running effects to Sheik, but one thing im concerned with is if it will even draw the fire effect since certain effects are tied in with characters.

Phantom Wings said:
Q: Can you call an elemental graphic effect that a character doesn't normally use?
A: All characters share a global library of graphic effects (i.e. slash effects and basic flame effects) these are usable, but the more advanced ones can only be used if their respective effect file is loaded.

So it should work, shouldn't it? Maybe you did something wrong? >.>

Gigas_Deth · Aug 3, 2009

After the fruits of my labor I have made samus impossible to knock off and a shield bigger than the stage. This is why I need a camera... However, I need to know how to correctly change the values (hexidecimal or whatever). Can someone help me out? I have Shadic's links.

Yingyay · Aug 3, 2009

lordxzsawq21 said:
So it should work, shouldn't it? Maybe you did something wrong? >.>

I checked over pheonix mario's script and matched it to sheik's completly and when I tried it out, it didnt change a thing. I'll re-look it some more.

Gigas_Deth · Aug 3, 2009

Yingyay said:
I checked over pheonix mario's script and matched it to sheik's completly and when I tried it out, it didnt change a thing. I'll re-look it some more.

Maybe you should try copy and paste on a character that does have fire and go from there?

EDIT: Doesn't Shiek's upB have fire effects?

bobson · Aug 3, 2009

Going through the codes really gives you an appreciation for the work the Brawl devs put into this game.

Also, I think PW switched the up-B and down-B special action values in the notes; in every case I've checked, up-B has been 114 and down-B 115.

PKNintendo · Aug 3, 2009

Guys, I have a question. I was tinkering with the attributes tab and...

Got zilcho. My problem is, I don't know how to change the attributes.
For example.

Run initial Velocity:
0x008

For Lucas. If I want to increase it's speed, what do I do?

Gigas_Deth · Aug 3, 2009

PKNintendo said:
Guys, I have a question. I was tinkering with the attributes tab and...

Got zilcho. My problem is, I don't know how to change the attributes.
For example.

Run initial Velocity:
0x008

For Lucas. If I want to increase it's speed, what do I do?

Change the number next to value at the top. What to change it to idk since no one has answered my question.

Yingyay · Aug 3, 2009

Gigas_Deth said:
Maybe you should try copy and paste on a character that does have fire and go from there?

EDIT: Doesn't Shiek's upB have fire effects?

I want fire streams on her feet but maybe I should forget about it for now.

Next thing to work on

CHIDORI
-I want the dash attack animation when she's holding a sword but thunder effect but heres the problem.........whats the ID for electricity?

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