The fhanfus loop testing ground - confirmed to work on ROB - got it to work on samus

Zeallyx · Aug 8, 2009

It is confirmed to work on ROB.

I also got it to work on samus. (Though more testing is needed to confirm the fhanfus loop is also 100% inescapable for samus, as it is for ROB).
This means maybe all floaties (and possible even more light(er) weights) can fall victim to the fhanfhus loop.

This may be falcons wildcard for slightly better matchups.

The ROB board said this wasnt helpfull at all as 'a falcon will never get a first hit nair off on them'. Well, as I told them, they must learn 2 falcon. As a first hit Nair is one of the few things we WILL hit with. Ask rebaz.

So, even though the ROB board still hasnt reached the knowledge that, when perfected, this can, and will, pose a threat, we do know.

And as Samus seems to be next in line after rob, this can mean more characters can, and if so, will, fall victim to the fhanfus loop.

I request everyone to test this on as many characters as possible, and report back here.
I, too, will get started testing this on al light(er) characters.

Let there be ****. If possible.

List of characters we got it to work on:
R.O.B
Samus

List of characters confirmed to be unable to escape our fhanfus loop:
R.O.B

- Please help testing.
Thanks in advance.

Sovereign · Aug 8, 2009

I can't confirm much, but I've been able to pull it off on Luigi. Controlling my jump is the hard part. I didn't realize how strict the Nair timing was.

Anyway, I've tried it on MK and you can start it, but looping it for a knee is exetremely difficult. Once again, it's the timing.

I'll continue to test.

†Slader7† · Aug 9, 2009

I've tried this before and all I got to say is that the jump timing is very hard to get. I'll still try to perfect it though.

Sovereign · Aug 9, 2009

I learned that you have to move closer to the victim, in order to initiate a second footstool.

The movement is very small, though.

teluoborg · Aug 9, 2009

Nair to footstool seems legit on wario. His timing is sightly harder than ROB's and you have to aim for wario's belly, but it's still possible.
I got a friend to play as wario and he couldn't escape after the Nair neither with the chopper nor his nair which are, to my knowledge, wario's fastest counters (correct me if I'm wrong).
Sadly my friend had to leave before we could finish the test so I didn't have the time to try the whole loop on a human player, but it works on a lvl 9 cpu though (provided that you fastfall ASAP and DI chase after the footstool), but that doesn't really mean anything.

The loop works on lv 9 samus too.

Shadowblazen · Aug 12, 2009

What is a fhanfus loop??

lordhelmet · Aug 12, 2009

Shadowblazen said:
What is a fhanfus loop??

^This

My computer crashed so I've been pretty inactive.

Is it something like the first hit Nair>Footstool>Non-sweetspotted Bair?

Sovereign · Aug 12, 2009

lordhelmet said:
^This

My computer crashed so I've been pretty inactive.

Is it something like the first hit Nair>Footstool>Repeat>Knee Finish

^Fhanfus Loop

Shadowblazen · Aug 13, 2009

That sounds epic =)

Pichu4SSB4 · Aug 13, 2009

The R.O.B Board are cry babies. This discovery is great. God i love Nair.

Zeallyx · Aug 13, 2009

lordhelmet said:
^This

My computer crashed so I've been pretty inactive.

Is it something like the first hit Nair>Footstool>Non-sweetspotted Bair?

First hit Nair>footstool>nonsweetspot Bair lock>force standup>First hit Nair>footstool>nonsweetspot Bair lock>force standup>falcon punch = goodness combo.

First hit Nair>footstool>repeat = Fhanfus loop.

DellSmashman · Apr 14, 2010

I have tried the technique on Lucario. It works, but often the hardest part for me was timing the Bair lock correctly since he's a small target when down. The timing was a bit harder than Samus's.

Works on Level 9 Lucario's

PZ · Apr 14, 2010

It also works on DK. Well im having trouble getting the footstool in but I did it once.

Ramzeh · Apr 15, 2010

DellSmashman said:
I have tried the technique on Lucario. It works, but often the hardest part for me was timing the Bair lock correctly since he's a small target when down. The timing was a bit harder than Samus's.

Works on Level 9 Lucario's

thanks for the bump

8-ish months

exdia_16 · Apr 15, 2010

I hav got it to work on mk and boss got it to work on wario i kneed a little more practice before i post vids.
mk is fairly easy once you get about 3 hours into it same for wario just jump slower then you would on rob and work on your jump timing and make the buffered nair or knee just a little lower then regular.

A user name · May 17, 2010

This deserves a bump. Have people actually looked into this?

Zeallyx · May 17, 2010

A user name said:
This deserves a bump. Have people actually looked into this?

Not as much as they should('ve).

lordhelmet · May 17, 2010

Ehh, it's too hard to pull off. Not worth getting good at.

Falcons need to practice real tricks like the 34 AT.

A user name · May 17, 2010

lordhelmet said:
Ehh, it's too hard to pull off. Not worth getting good at.

Falcons need to practice real tricks like the 34 AT.

Well I haven't tried this but I know that if this works on a lot of characters it could be REALLY useful.

Zeallyx · May 17, 2010

lordhelmet said:
Ehh, it's too hard to pull off. Not worth getting good at.

Falcons need to practice real tricks like the 34 AT.

How long have you practiced?

As it is indeed difficult to master, but far from impossible.
I actually got it down quite consistently in the time starting from when I discovered it till I made/uploaded a vid showing it.

And it works on a variety of characters, too.

Where there's will, there's a road. Especially in this situation.

A user name · May 20, 2010

ToKneeOrNotToKnee said:
And it works on a variety of characters, too.

Who does it work on?

A user name · May 22, 2010

Oh and Helmet, just cause you don't like knee (and knee doesn't like you) doesn't mean he couldn't have found out something extremely important to Falcon.

Edit: Sorry for the double post.

Zeallyx · May 23, 2010

A user name said:
Who does it work on?

ROB, Samus, Marth, Peach, and more. But I cant remember which chars, lolz.

Sovereign · May 23, 2010

The doc is back. Show'em Knee.

exdia_16 · May 23, 2010

just name the character you kneed it done on and i will deliver.xD

Zeallyx · May 24, 2010

exdia_16 said:
just name the character you kneed it done on and i will deliver.xD

You mean you'll make a vid?

A user name · May 24, 2010

Have people been able to do this in a match?

lordhelmet · May 24, 2010

A user name said:
Have people been able to do this in a match?

No .

yoshq · May 24, 2010

should be like olimar and sheik too. the chars that icies back/down chaingrab works on

Zeallyx · May 24, 2010

lordhelmet said:
No .

I have.

And your butthurtism seems to know no bounds.

A user name · May 24, 2010

...Well not to keep annoying people but...If you can pull this off in a match...sounds useful to me...

Zeallyx · May 24, 2010

A user name said:
...Well not to keep annoying people but...If you can pull this off in a match...sounds useful to me...

It is. Falcon mains need to step it up, is all.

A user name · May 24, 2010

Yeah...I'm going to try to learn this...Uh I'm a n00b, what EXCATCTLY is this again? lol

A user name · May 24, 2010

lol knee hates me for forgetting what the fhanfus loop is excatctly.

Zeallyx · May 25, 2010

A user name said:
Yeah...I'm going to try to learn this...Uh I'm a n00b, what EXCATCTLY is this again? lol

A user name said:
lol knee hates me for forgetting what the fhanfus loop is excatctly.

I don't hate you, lol.

Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HsDrAZj0bQ&playnext_from=TL&videos=7hPgv8J1kQU

That's the idea. =)

A user name · May 25, 2010

Wow...That's too good...

KillerJawz · May 25, 2010

That's quite impracticable, but I wouldn't be surprised if it worked on Samus. EVERYTHING works on Samus.

Willz · May 25, 2010

The thing is, this will NEVER happen in a match lol

Zatchiel · May 25, 2010

Very good use, IF YOU CAN SET IT UP XD
But i don't think it's that useful, once you do get the chance to do it, the ROB player is just going to unplug your controller to cancel it.

lordhelmet · May 25, 2010

Lucas Perfected said:
But i don't think it's that useful, once you do get the chance to do it, the ROB player is just going to unplug your controller to cancel it.

If he unplugged your controller he would be helping you because you would likely screw it up.

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