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characters that can get out of the platform fall

saviorslegacy

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Oh boy, I got myself into a lot of work. -_-
I made that video and didn't realize I would need so much testing. So I decided to test and see who can escape these kinds of combo's.
(I am testing to see if you can escape after someone has attacked your shield and sent you falling.)

All tests were NOT performed in training mode and were performed at the far right platform at Battle Field.


In each test I tested 3 things.
#1 jumping
#2 their fastest airial
#3 Their up B.
Below are my results.


:mario2:
He can escape it.

:luigi2:
He can escape it.

:peach:
She can escape it.

:bowser2:
He can NOT escape it.

:dk2:
He can NOT escape it.

:diddy:
He can NOT escape it.

:yoshi2:
He can escape it.

:wario:
He can NOT escape it.

:link2:
He can NOT escape it.

:zelda:
She can escape it.

:sheik:
She can NOT escape it.

:ganondorf:
He can NOT escape it.

:toonlink:
He can escape it.

:samus2:
She can escape it.

:zerosuitsamus:
She can NOT escape it.

:pit:
He can NOT escape it.

:popo:
They can escape it.
On a side note.
I was able to desync them while falling.

:rob:
It can escape it.

:kirby2:
He can escape it.

:metaknight:
He can NOT escape it. :)

:dedede:
He can NOT escape it.

:olimar:
He can escape it.

:fox:
He can NOT escape it.

:falco:
He can NOT escape it.

:wolf:
He can NOT escape it.

:falcon:
He can NOT escape it.

:pikachu2:
He can NOT escape it.

:pt:
He mange's to avoid all harm including this.

:007:
He can NOT escape it.

:002:
He can escape it.

:006:
He can NOT escape it.

:lucario:
He can escape it.

:jigglypuff:
She can escape it.

:marth:
He can escape it.

:ike:
He can NOT escape it.

:ness2:
He can escape it.

:lucas:
He can NOT escape it.

:gw:
He can escape it.

:snake:
He can NOT escape it.

:sonic:
He an NOT escape it.


On a side note.
You have to attack someone's shield when they are facing with their back to where they are falling.
In other words. If they are standing on the far right platform at the left edge their back must be to the left.
Also, you have to attack the back of their shield with a stronger attack. You can attack the front of their shield with a jab.

Every character can escape being attacked from behind except for Fox.
 
saviorslegacy

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Onishiba said:
Try Bowser's SideB, I'm curious about it.
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Nothin.. he DI's under the platform but that is about it.

And yes, I have tried DIing up but it is a lost cause.
Zelda can barely escape it by using an airial (she can jump out of it though). If you use her Nair it will come out just when you hit the ground and you will not have a hit box. So I used her to test and DI'd up trying to see if the attack box would come out, it didn't.

ps Stupid icons are a pain when your browser wont load the little area that tells you what to type..... :urg:
 
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You do know that all characters can tech their landing, right?

Either way, I'd go ahead and put that in the OP.
 
saviorslegacy

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DanGR said:
You do know that all characters can tech their landing, right?

Either way, I'd go ahead and put that in the OP.
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Hmmm... I'll have to look into that later.
Twilight Prince said:
Ivysaur's one moment of glory!

:034:
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LMAO!
bry said:
that must have taken some time, kool to know though
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lol no, like 40 minutes to do everything including typing this post. (I also tested by myself.)

After trying to test the Saltus Combo by myself I kimda got the concept down.
Besides, it is real hard to hold L with your left hand, make Mario jab with your right and then move your right hand to the controller real quick to try and hit A/B.
 
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Maybe you should add what makes the characters escape it, seeing as you used tried 3 different methods, it would be useful to know which one/s work.
 
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Wait...I thought it was like a footstool so you can't tech...I fail.

I really like this list. (especailly PT. I lold at Ash avoiding harm. Yes, it is Ash... **** you Sakurai.)
 
saviorslegacy

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DanGR said:
You do know that all characters can tech their landing, right?

Either way, I'd go ahead and put that in the OP.
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Wrong, I tested this a lot just in case and there is no way that this is true.
No offense to you.
swordgard said:
You can simply tech it too.
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As someone else said, it is smarter to jump or something.
Brado said:
Maybe you should add what makes the characters escape it, seeing as you used tried 3 different methods, it would be useful to know which one/s work.
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I started to do this and then I noticed I was listing all three (four including teching) ways on every character that could escape it.
ph00tbag said:
I feel like I've done ZSS' nair out of this.
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I tested this as well. It is not true.
I am not calling you a liar though since if someone attacked your back you could easily escape it.
demonictoonlink said:
Can everyone get out of the top platform?
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I haven't tested everyone but I did test Fox (the fastest faller) and Bowser (the biggest dope) and found that they can both escape it. So assume everyone can too.

On that note... they can barely escape it. That means that this type of combo barely works. lol

:EDIT: Haven't talked to you in a while DTL. Glad to see ya again.
 
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What about the smashville platform ^^ ? Its somewhere between the middle and the high BF platforms :p
 
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Good stuff Saviour, always coming out with useful shiz.

Helpful with DASC lol.
 
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Lol, why is R.O.B. an it and G&W not? Anyway, I believe I have done it with ZSS before, just don't remember how... Oh well. This must of took some time and patience lol.
 
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Mclena45 said:
Lol, why is R.O.B. an it and G&W not? Anyway, I believe I have done it with ZSS before, just don't remember how... Oh well. This must of took some time and patience lol.
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Cuz G&W is a thing. (Have you ever referred to one of your things as "he" or "she".) If not then we can kust say I was speaking Spanish. <,<

Not really.. IDK why people think that though.
The jab lock one is the one that took some time.
I plan on finishing it when I don't hate it as much and I'm no longer testing slides.
 
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hmm...according to Amazing Ampharos thread Internal Character Mechanics Values the results of your testing run fairly closely to the data he gave us but near the end there are a few holes.

Acceleration Due to Gravity

1. Fox (0.17) X
2. Sheik (0.14) X
3. Wolf (0.13) X
4. Falco (0.11) X
4. Squirtle (0.11) X
6. Bowser (0.10) X
6. Captain Falcon (0.10) X
6. Ganondorf (0.10) X
6. Meta Knight (0.10) X
10. Charizard (0.09) X
10. Diddy Kong (0.09) X
10. Link (0.09) X
10. Lucas (0.09) X
10. Pikachu (0.09) X
10. Sonic (0.09) X
10. Zero Suit Samus (0.09) X
17. Donkey Kong (0.08) X
17. Ice Climbers (0.08)
17. Ike (0.08) X
17. King Dedede (0.08) X
17. Mario (0.08)
17. Mr. Game & Watch (0.08)
17. Pit (0.08) X
17. Snake (0.08) X
17. Wario (0.08) X
26. Ivysaur (0.07)
26. Marth (0.07)
26. Ness (0.07)
26. Toon Link (0.07)
26. Yoshi (0.07)
26. Zelda (0.07)
32. Kirby (0.06)
32. Lucario (0.06)
32. Luigi (0.06)
32. Olimar (0.06)
32. Peach (0.06)
32. R.O.B. (0.06)
32. Samus (0.06)
39. Jigglypuff (0.05)

It might be wise to double check Ice climbers, Mario, and Mr. Game and Watch.
 
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Tristan_win said:
hmm...according to Amazing Ampharos thread Internal Character Mechanics Values the results of your testing run fairly closely to the data he gave us but near the end there are a few holes.

Acceleration Due to Gravity

1. Fox (0.17) X
2. Sheik (0.14) X
3. Wolf (0.13) X
4. Falco (0.11) X
4. Squirtle (0.11) X
6. Bowser (0.10) X
6. Captain Falcon (0.10) X
6. Ganondorf (0.10) X
6. Meta Knight (0.10) X
10. Charizard (0.09) X
10. Diddy Kong (0.09) X
10. Link (0.09) X
10. Lucas (0.09) X
10. Pikachu (0.09) X
10. Sonic (0.09) X
10. Zero Suit Samus (0.09) X
17. Donkey Kong (0.08) X
17. Ice Climbers (0.08)
17. Ike (0.08) X
17. King Dedede (0.08) X
17. Mario (0.08)
17. Mr. Game & Watch (0.08)
17. Pit (0.08) X
17. Snake (0.08) X
17. Wario (0.08) X
26. Ivysaur (0.07)
26. Marth (0.07)
26. Ness (0.07)
26. Toon Link (0.07)
26. Yoshi (0.07)
26. Zelda (0.07)
32. Kirby (0.06)
32. Lucario (0.06)
32. Luigi (0.06)
32. Olimar (0.06)
32. Peach (0.06)
32. R.O.B. (0.06)
32. Samus (0.06)
39. Jigglypuff (0.05)

I might be wise to double check Ice climbers, Mario, and Mr. Game and Watch.
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hmmm.. interesting.
 
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saviorslegacy said:
I measured it with Bowser's spikes. I found it is just a hair bigger. Not enough to really do anything.
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The SV plattform is like 15% higher then the middle BF one.

I think at least for the 0.8ers from Tristans List it could make a difference. Just recheck these characters:

Donkey Kong
Ice Climbers
Ike
King Dedede
Mario
Mr. Game & Watch
Pit
Snake (Especially him since he is my main xD)
Wario

:)
 
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xDD-Master said:
The SV plattform is like 15% higher then the middle BF one.

I think at least for the 0.8ers from Tristans List it could make a difference. Just recheck these characters:

Donkey Kong
Ice Climbers
Ike
King Dedede
Mario
Mr. Game & Watch
Pit
Snake (Especially him since he is my main xD)
Wario

:)
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I have to much testing to do -_-
I'll put this at the top of my list though.
Xonar said:
it is MR game and watch.
thus a he
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Ooooooo
I see what you did there.
 
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