Giving Brawl+ a unique look: Modifying the CSS and other menus

Slashy · Sep 6, 2009

We have begun work already on modifying the CSS http://filebin.ca/yanuqd/common5.pac . (place that in /private/wii/app/RSBE/pf/system [credit goes to SakurabaNeku]), to swap out the HANDICAP icon to BUFFER.

If we can do that, maybe we can further texture other menu files to give Brawl+ a unique look and make it a more seamless experience. In this topic we will share files we want to edit, files we edited, and files that need to be tested, in order to compile a Brawl+ theme for Brawl.

SymphonicSage12 · Sep 6, 2009

There's already a cool CSS that someone gave me.... it has pictures of all of the characters from various games and such...

if you guys could post pictures of these than it would be great

Slashy · Sep 6, 2009

We aren't just counting CSPs.

SymphonicSage12 · Sep 6, 2009

no like, the actual pictures of the characters on the CSS. not the csp's.

like the pictures that you put the cursor on

Slashy · Sep 6, 2009

Ah okay, I was going to edit that with a new font and background for the names. I want to make the names more stylish, inform that there are "wild" Pokemon on the roster, and fix ZSS' name.

timothyung · Sep 6, 2009

timothyung said:
cookiemonster said in another thread that he want everything in Brawl "plussified".
Yeah so we should discuss what we can do.

Buffer - done
Mark neutral, cp, and banned stages with a green, yellow and red border respectively?
title screen
anymore suggestions?

shanus said:
Actually CSPs for the official texture package would be <3

GHNeko said:
That would be cool and all, but you'd have to wait for an offical stage list. Also, different regions would have different stage lists.

PKNintendo said:
I'd love the marking of the stages.
You can make the title screen say B+ but that's a nice bonus.

FSLink said:
A few of my suggestions:
- title screen to Brawl+
- Change the text in rules from "Handicap" to "Buffer"
- Change any instances of Brawl to Brawl+
- Include just one menu song replacement? I would suggest just this one or something like that because it's still the Brawl theme, yet the different style is enough to tell you "Hey, Brawl+ means business" Yeah, music is really a personal thing, but I don't think changing one theme would be a big deal, plus users can always switch it out. *shrug* I just think the idea of Brawl+ having its own theme would be cool. If this suggestion is ignored, I'll just continue using my own of course.
- I saw a Brawl+ strap loader image awhile back, would be cool if that was polished up a bit more, had the Brawlplus site URL on it, explain what Buffer is, the version number of the codes, etc.

Alphatron said:
So long as the title screen doesn't say "Screw that, I want fun speed activate!" I'd love to see a brawl+ title screen. ^_^ Speaking of which, who came up with that lousy(no offence) phrase anyway?

Demacrez said:
I was thinking of holding a contest for the artist to draw and color each individual 39 characters for the three screen warnings. Just replace those with the characters everyone has drawn.

Have the community vote on the best characters that are well drawn.

SymphonicSage12 said:
you mean you're gonna put the characters on the warning screens? like the wrist strap ones and stuff?

Demacrez said:
Yeah, replace that with the characters and have a different phrases like for example: "Brawl+ is a faster, more competitive game to its predecessor vBrawl." etc, etc.

It won't really have that line but it's just an example...

PKNintendo said:
It should be a random character each time!

SymphonicSage12 said:
that would be cool. Kinda like the "press start" screen on mario kart that randomly shows peach, mario, luigi, or bowser. :D

VietGeek said:
Unfortunately it seems these altogether increase the filesize beyond the original file size and thus File Patch gets screwed up.

Using SmashBox's Size Resizer doesn't seem to work. =/

Although I bet you can replace it drectly onto the ISO and it'll work lol.

Btw, replace the Donkey Kong Jungle Beat icon with the Super Smash Bros. Brawl one. <.<

My pac also with the Buffer icon:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nrzowdynmm2

And I need the JP version of common5...

SymphonicSage12 · Sep 6, 2009

post pictures people D:

and I dont' know the person my custom CSS is from.....but I think a lot of the pictures are from the Subspace Emissary...

Sakuraba Neku · Sep 6, 2009

Slashy said:
We have begun work already on modifying the CSS http://filebin.ca/yanuqd/common5.pac . (place that in /private/wii/app/RSBE/pf/system [credit goes to SakurabaNeku]),

For the record, I didn't make the buffer thing(I think timothyung did) I just discovered the you could put it in the common5.pac and it would work with the SD loader(Slashy was telling me it didn't until I tried it)

SymphonicSage12 · Sep 6, 2009

:D I love your sig, Sakuraba Neku

MK26 · Sep 6, 2009

the common5.pac in the op should be mandatory on any wii running brawl+

Lucina Clash · Sep 6, 2009

Seems like the "Online Practice Stage" icon needs a new palette in order to function. Anyone know how to do this?

Demacrez · Sep 6, 2009

You know, I should start that thread for the contest. Both here and in the art threads.

Slashy · Sep 6, 2009

My game crashes occasionally on the CSS I edited.

The World Warrior · Sep 6, 2009

Now if only we could modify the title screen to add the "Plus" part. Now THAT would be great to see.

Lucina Clash · Sep 6, 2009

Okay, so I got the pictures of the Online Practice Stage to at least show up, but when the cursor is on top of Rumble Falls, the game freezes. All I need is to figure out WHY it froze. I have a picture to prove it worked slightly. We're getting close!

Any thoughts as to why it froze the game? I can't think of any, because the picture requires no palette and the text also does not require one. (No, the icon needs a palette, so that did NOT work.) I shall post the picture of the Online Stage in a few minutes or so!

Thanks to VietGeek for creating those lovely Online Practice Stage graphics for us! They look official, and will look good if we can get them to function correctly!!

Edit with pic:

Viquey · Sep 6, 2009

Aah yesss I'd love this. Can you change the appearance of the menus themselves? Maybe change the button shapes or locations, or at least the buttons' and bg's colors? I dunno how much of that is customizable.

Maybe a B+ themed opening movie? And a B+ how-to-play tut?

Oh and as for the colored borders marking stages, since, as someone timothyung quoted up there said, different regions/etc. would have different legal and banned stages and changes are still being made overall, etc. So have say blue for neutral, blue-green/green for starter/counter, yellow for counter, orange for counter/banned, red for banned. So it retains the ones that could go either way. And as for the changes that could be made, well just change what stages are marked what alongside the builds.

aaand what else...

messing with the defaults some more if possible? The banned stages could be turned off by default, cpus are a different level by default maybe...

Perhaps using the special brawl mode for something? like switching between builds or something... and maybe changing/adding b+ specific options to the settings menu...?

Yeah just throwing ideas out there. I know most of this probably isn't possible. :laugh:

Lucina Clash · Sep 6, 2009

If only we could skip the intro movie loader. It makes me very impatient, and it's pointless considering everyone just skips over that. Maybe we can make it skip??

VietGeek · Sep 6, 2009

well that's also the time it loads the common# files and info files (music track names), as well as some other universal game elements. I remember somewhat vaguely that someone replaced the movie with a smaller one (probably a random SSE clip) and the load time was relatively unchanged.

btw good luck trying to get the my images to work on a standard common5 Fortenium. =3

Lucina Clash · Sep 6, 2009

VietGeek said:
btw good luck trying to get the my images to work on a standard common5 Fortenium. =3

Give me a little credit: I made at least a little progress.

Again, thanks for making them. Eventually we will find a way to get them to work. They look official, so that's partially why I'm pumped about this. What do you mean by standard file??

Also thanks for the info about the common.pac thing.

Plaid02 · Sep 7, 2009

My problem is that if I download your common5.pac, I would have to replace mine which has all my portraits. What do I do about that?

Slashy · Sep 7, 2009

http://filebin.ca/ekrmdz/common5.pac

Work has begun on a custom CSS by me.

timothyung · Sep 7, 2009

Don't forget Kryal, who made SmashBox.

[TSON] · Sep 7, 2009

Wait so for the Wifi room icon it needs some pallette compression? I could do that easily for you.. If you need it.

timothyung · Sep 7, 2009

I'm replacing

with

, SmashBox seems to have problems with the JP pac though. Freezes at the SSS

Lucina Clash · Sep 7, 2009

timothyung said:
Don't forget Kryal, who made SmashBox.

Yes, also Kryal. I would've never even known how to do this had it not been for Kryal.

@TheSilenceOfNoOne If you could get it to work, that would be fantastic! Also, do you know how to change the "DK" logo with the "Super Smash Brothers" logo without replacing the graphics? If I replace the "DK" logo, then it will affect Donkey Kong characters! xD

@Slashy I will try out the new CSS and take a picture if I can get it to work! ^^

Edit with pic:

He has changed the font on some. I need to ask you something, Slashy: why did you change Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong to Donkey and Diddy? Is this supposed to be on the Japanese game?? Overall a good idea and a good start, though! This is really differentiating + from every other hack!!!

WheelOfFish · Sep 7, 2009

DK Online Practice Stage XD

But it looks good!

Viquey said:
And a B+ how-to-play tut?

I'm still pushing for a Melee-esque how-to-play video, and when it says intercept, and Mario is about to f-air spike Bowser, Captain Falcon flies out of no where and pawnches them.

smashbro29 · Sep 7, 2009

I say we add a DK themed texture and name it something DK-ish so the logo fits.

Lucina Clash · Sep 7, 2009

smashbro29 said:
I say we add a DK themed texture and name it something DK-ish so the logo fits.

Or we could add in the "MENU" spot in the Melee Stages, and replace that with the stuff. That would make it easier and keep the stage. I also doubt it would harm anything....

Cero · Sep 7, 2009

Is there a way to have both Youko's character portraits and the buffer texture from the OP at the same time?

SymphonicSage12 · Sep 7, 2009

you'd have to make a common5.pac yourself so that it includes both.

Cero · Sep 7, 2009

SymphonicSage12 said:
you'd have to make a common5.pac yourself so that it includes both.

Lol. That sounds like it would be a pain...

Hopefully, Youko will put it in the next update.

dabridge · Sep 7, 2009

I'm not a big fan of the new font. To be honest, I really don't like it. :/
Why are you even changing it? We just need something that shows the difference between Brawl+ and Brawl, not a complete overhaul.

thanyou · Sep 7, 2009

C'mon you guys, lets see some pics, I'd hate to replace my custom Common5 with all my portraits on it just so I can see handicap switched to buffer =p

Lucina Clash · Sep 7, 2009

I just made some sort of discovery for our "Online Practice Stage" predicament: there are two versions of every icon, one for stages, one for characters. Maybe we won't change the Donkey Kong characters after all.

I would still stick with my original idea of changing the SSS to have "MENU" on it.

Also, Slashy, I hate to say it, but I agree with Dabridge: I dislike this new font

Demacrez · Sep 8, 2009

Yeah... try imitating the normal font. The ones you showed look... not good.

Alphatron · Sep 8, 2009

Cero said:
Lol. That sounds like it would be a pain...

Hopefully, Youko will put it in the next update.

Use smashbox to add the buffer texture to your common5.pac. Takes about two minutes.

Slashy · Sep 8, 2009

Demacrez said:
Yeah... try imitating the normal font. The ones you showed look... not good.

I deliberately ignored the original font for a funky look given by the Pepsi font. I'll finish this CSS off and try a new with another font. I just want everything to be easier to read with an awkward style.

Here is an update to the CSS, sorry about my CSPs being there.

http://elitesmashhackers.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/brawl-css/#comment-13334

timothyung · Sep 8, 2009

slashy, you should upload all the image used, and make a list of what is replaced by what so people can give suggestions more easily.

ThatGuyYouMightKnow · Sep 9, 2009

Here's my contribution.

Doesn't go towards B+, just something nice. >:3 This took HOURS to do due to editing the pictures.

I don't think the intro is able to be edited yet. When it is I'll have one waiting.

Picture requests could take a while. Certain pictures have to be edited or else they come out...bad.

[TSON] · Sep 18, 2009

is it possible to change the background image on the CSS?

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