KirinBlaze
Smash Lord
Ok so here we go. I did some testing once I found out how to spike Link from the ledge with a DownTilt after I had accidentally done it on WiFi. I tested it on every character and grouped the characters it works on. Thankfully a large majority has the same distance. Here it is. I used Battlefield as the stage because the platforms provided a landmark to aid in the location where Link needs to be standing from the ledge. Note this spike only works when the characters below are hanging from the ledge.
This threads purpose is to give you all a clear picture of where you need to be in order to use the LHDS (Ledge Hang Dtilt Spike).
The distance in order to spike from the ledge is 2.5 the thickness of the Hylian Shield from the ledge to the shield. - Blubba Pinecone.
Well that's all find and dandy, Blubba. But who the **** is going to be able to remember something like that, picture where exactly 2.5 Thickness of the Hylian Shield from the ledge and then apply it? Maybe just you. So here's a way for everyone to easily understand where you need to be standing in order to spike certain characters from the ledge.
This threads purpose is to give you all a clear picture of where you need to be in order to use the LHDS (Ledge Hang Dtilt Spike).
The distance in order to spike from the ledge is 2.5 the thickness of the Hylian Shield from the ledge to the shield. - Blubba Pinecone.
Well that's all find and dandy, Blubba. But who the **** is going to be able to remember something like that, picture where exactly 2.5 Thickness of the Hylian Shield from the ledge and then apply it? Maybe just you. So here's a way for everyone to easily understand where you need to be standing in order to spike certain characters from the ledge.
The Majority Distance
From this distance you can Spike the following characters.
Mario
Link
Samus
Fox
Pikachu
Mr. Game & Watch
Luigi
Zelda
Shiek
Falco
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Peach
Ganondorf
Wolf
Lucario
Bowser
Captain Falcon
ROB, Wario, Kirby
This is the Distance needed to spike these 3 characters from the Ledge. It is a tad but closer to the ledge then the Majority Distance.
King Dedede
This is the distance you'll need from the ledge to spike King Dedede as he hangs from the ledge.
Meta Knight
This is the distance needed from the ledge to spike Meta Knight.
Ness, Lucas
From this distance you can Spike the following characters.
Mario
Link
Samus
Fox
Pikachu
Mr. Game & Watch
Luigi
Zelda
Shiek
Falco
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Peach
Ganondorf
Wolf
Lucario
Bowser
Captain Falcon
ROB, Wario, Kirby
This is the Distance needed to spike these 3 characters from the Ledge. It is a tad but closer to the ledge then the Majority Distance.
King Dedede
This is the distance you'll need from the ledge to spike King Dedede as he hangs from the ledge.
Meta Knight
This is the distance needed from the ledge to spike Meta Knight.
Ness, Lucas
Ness and Lucas both can be spiked at the distance needed to spike Wario, ROB, and Kirby. However there is a bit of a problem with these two. For some reason the spike will only connect during a certain part of their hanging animation. The picture above shows this point. Ness and Lucas will both struggle to pull themselves up, lifiting their heads above the stage level, and fail only to drop back down. When they drop back down their face becomes level with the stage. It is at this moment the Dtilt will spike them both. Due to the amount of time Ness/Lucas need to be on the ledge in order for this to work I suggest not relying on this.
Bowser
While Bowser falls into the majority distance there is another spot in which you can spike him. The picture above displays this. However, like Ness and Lucas there is a certain place in Bowser's ledge hanging animation that will allow you to spike him from this distance. The picture below shows Bowser's right ledge lifted up and no longer visible to the player. This is where the Dtilt will spike him. Again, the amount of time needed for this to work will make this very difficult. Do not depend on this.
Ice Climbers
The Ice Climbers are another character that was strange spike properties to them. There are 3 different distances in which you can spike the Ice Climbers. The picture below is the first distance. At this distance Dtilt will spike Popo only.
The next picture will display the third distance needed to spike. This distances will spike Nana only.
The second distance is directly inbetween these two and will result in both Ice Climbers being spiked.
Bowser
While Bowser falls into the majority distance there is another spot in which you can spike him. The picture above displays this. However, like Ness and Lucas there is a certain place in Bowser's ledge hanging animation that will allow you to spike him from this distance. The picture below shows Bowser's right ledge lifted up and no longer visible to the player. This is where the Dtilt will spike him. Again, the amount of time needed for this to work will make this very difficult. Do not depend on this.
Ice Climbers
The Ice Climbers are another character that was strange spike properties to them. There are 3 different distances in which you can spike the Ice Climbers. The picture below is the first distance. At this distance Dtilt will spike Popo only.
The next picture will display the third distance needed to spike. This distances will spike Nana only.
The second distance is directly inbetween these two and will result in both Ice Climbers being spiked.
