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DSO Biweekly 9 ~Philly, PA~ 10/18/09 Results! MK Banned

CT Chia

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As always everyone, thanks for coming out. I understand the forfeits, but next DSO I'm going to have a strict no money back policy because it messes up seeding. I hope to see everyone at DSO 10 in November.

Brawl Doubles

1: The Chest Hair (Atomsk + Yes)
2: Inui and Rookie (Inui + Rookie)
3: We Only Came For Frisbee... For Justice (ChiboSempai + AndyG)
4: Titans of Torment (Fury + Nasty)
5: MIB + Squall (MIB + Squall)
5: What The Deuce (Xzax + Vex)
7: Ebo and KingToon (Ebo + KingToon)
7: CNT (CA + TAC)
9: Smurf and Hime (Smurf + Hime)
9: Allied and Ether (Allied + Ether)
9: I Don't Really Care (Oody + Clai)
9: Doubles Gods (Keitaro + Eazy)
13: I Don't Know (TUSM + Aztec Avenger)
13: Q (Mike + Max)

Brawl Singles

1: Max :popo::peach:
2: Atomsk :wolf::warioc::dedede:
3: Rookie :fox:
4: Inui :snake::ike::dedede:
5: Vex Kasrani :bowser2:
5: Keitaro :falco:
7: Eazy :marth:
7: AndyG :olimar::snake:
9: Ebo
9: Squall
9: Nasty
9: chimpakt
13: KingToon
13: TUSM
13: ChiboSempai
13: Xzax
17: Fury
17: Smurf
17: Aztec Avenger
17: Wedge
17: Yes
17: Oody
17: Phillyrider
17: Hime
25: MIB
25: Cel
25: Ninja Edd (Forfeit)
25: Bnzaaa
25: Ether (Forfeit)
25: Clai
25: .com
25: Allied (Forfeit)
33: Kaylo! (Forfeit)
33: Mike

Brawl+ Singles

1: Yes
2: Vex Kasrani
3: Atomsk
4: ChiboSempai
5: Inui
5: Oody
7: Ebo
7: Phillyrider
9: Sabs
9. TUSM


All is Brawl Page With Brackets:
http://allisbrawl.com/ttournament.aspx?id=7664
 

Xzax Kasrani

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1: Max- WTTTTTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF good **** you can **** without MK XD
2: Atomsk- Trevor too goodz. Wolf too goodz.
3: Rookie- ur awesome bro, hope to see u soon
4: Inui- GANONDORF! haha good seeing you
5: Vex Kasrani- B-BO-BOW-BOWS-BOWSA-BOWSA
5: Keitaro- My Falco > You MK
7: Eazy- Good **** mah d00
7: AndyG- Close matches XD Amazing seeing you again
9: Ebo- Hi haha good seeing you
9: Nasty- i beat you XD
9: chimpakt- **** close matches, better luck next time for me, eh?
13: TUSM- BOXXXXXXX can play the piano
13: ChiboSempai- Good tourny for once :p
13: Xzax- Step it up
17: Fury- My Wolf> You
17: Smurf- ahhh ****
17: Oody- Thanks for the ride, hope you enjoyed ur first EC tournament
17: Phillyrider- Good ish ev

@YES!- lol Sonic in b+ :p ggs good seeing you
@Diem- XD
@MIB- I BUSTED YOU *** EVEN THO YOU TRASHED TALKED ME AND I 2 STOCKED YOU WITH WOLF AND 0 TO DEATHED YOU IN OUR SET, GET *****.
 

Inui

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ICs are broken without MK.

Max ***** everyone but then I ***** him with MK in an MM and Atomsk ***** him with MK in friendlies.

That guy just showed up, knew the infinites, and grabbed us.

If you're going to ban MK, ban the IC infinite too.

Losing 1st round in winners and ****** all of losers is too fun for me these days. I just wish someone else took out the **** ICs so I didn't have to deal with that **** again.

ICs >>>>>>>>>>>>> MK.
 

CT Chia

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Correct me if im wrong on any characters

Max is a random PA player, this was his 2nd tourney. His first was the first DSO I believe over a year ago. He lost to Squall 3rd round or so, then dominated losers taking out me, AndyG, Keitaro, Inui (who he also took out in winners), Rookie, and both sets from Atomsk in grand finals, the first being a 3-0. He mainly used ICs, though he was seen using like 5 or so characters total. Let's put it this way, he literally doesn't even have a SWF account lol.

Also, for those saying he just won with the infinites, that was definitely not the case. I don't think he did one 0-death infinite on Atomsk once. Well maybe once, though I doubt any more than that. When I saw him play friendlies against MKs like dm, he knew how to the infinite on MK, but against other players like me or Atomsk he more relied on hobbling and short CGs for damage and just being really good at spacing, landing moves, etc.

He definitely wasn't just abusing IC stuff, he was legit.
 

Inui

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Correct me if im wrong on any characters
The only character Max actually won with was Ice Climbers.

I beat Squall with Dedede and beat TUSM in a game of our set with Dedede. I beat Vex with all Ike and took a game from TUSM with Ike. I beat everyone else with Snake and lost with Snake to Max both times. Basically, you forgot to put Dedede next to my name even though he won me more sets than anyone else.

Atomsk won with Wolf and Dedede; no other character advanced him in the bracket at all.
 

CT Chia

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Aight I'll make those changes. I saw Max playing with and winning with Peach (that's who he primarily used to beat me), Kirby, Pikachu, etc.
 

Inui

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Aight I'll make those changes. I saw Max playing with and winning with Peach (that's who he primarily used to beat me), Kirby, Pikachu, etc.
I think he took a game from you with Peach, but he definitely didn't beat anyone of merit using anything but Ice Climbers. I saw and fought that guy's not-Ice Climbers; horrible beyond words. His Ice Climbers are obviously legit though.

Btw Atomsk won nothing with Wario at all, so Wario shouldn't be next to his name.

Ankoku has stated over and over that for his rankings he only wants characters that advance you in the bracket, not characters you lose with.
 

Eazy23

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D@mn Inui. you don't gotta blast the guy for not being amazing with other characters. His pikachu did well vs you on Brinstar also.

Anyway, nice tourny, shoutouts later.
 

DAlegendarysamus

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All You Guys Suck

Lol
Stop Crying Lol All Of You Guys Suck Lol Even Maxi Pads Lol Tell Him To Come See Me With Or Without Cgs Idc If He Had No Ebay Account Aol Account Swf Account Who Gives A ****. Its Good That You Host These Just Ban Mk And Cgs Period Not Only Infinites But Cgs Too Of Any Kinda. Watch How People Cry And Say" He Needs The Cg, Without It Hes Wack"
 

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D@mn Inui. you don't gotta blast the guy for not being amazing with other characters. His pikachu did well vs you on Brinstar also.

Anyway, nice tourny, shoutouts later.
His Pikachu did well against my rusty Marth on a gay stage where I played like poopoo.

His Pikachu later on got super mega ultra ***** by my Snake (would have threestocked him if I didn't SD at like 20% lololol) and I saw his Peach and other stuff and it was super terrible.

I don't sugarcoat things; the guy only had ICs. His ICs are mad legit, I'll give him that, but he definitely doesn't have other characters or much overall skill.

I'm honest. Brutally so.
 

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Brawl Singles

1: Max - this guy is awesome. i wish he had an swf account or something.
2: Atomsk - thanks for teaming with me man <3 i'm glad i didnt let you down
3: Rookie -Usuck2good. goood fuxin shiet dude
4: Inui - gj ****** losers.
5: Vex Kasrani -bowserrrrr
5: Keitaro - you don't get a shoutout lol
7: Eazy - i love the intelligent discussions :)
7: AndyG - leather jacket bretheren unite! good seeing you man
9: Ebo - good stuff man. good to see you again.
9: Squall
9: Nasty -...crap i forgot if i played you or fury in friendlies...
9: chimpakt
13: KingToon
13: TUSM - good seeing you man
13: ChiboSempai - thanks for the tourney man
13: Xzax - mah boi :)
17: Fury -....same as nasty's shoutout...you guys make a good team
17: Smurf - nice seeing you man
17: Aztec Avenger - i didnt see you at all xD
17: Wedge
17: Yes --lmao i dropped out of the tourney and outplaced people? too good...
17: Oody
17: Phillyrider
17: Hime
25: MIB
25: Cel
25: Ninja Edd (Forfeit)
25: Bnzaaa
25: Ether (Forfeit) - good seeing you dude
25: Clai - the MAN here is too good :)
25: .com - i fcking love you man
25: Allied (Forfeit) - great seeing you dude. glad you liked brawl+ hit me up on aim or something if you want to know crap about it.
33: Kaylo! (Forfeit)
33: Mike

Brawl+ Singles

1: Yes - <3 fox
2: Vex Kasrani - you ****ed me up lmao...good stuff tho man it was a pleasure to play you
3: Atomsk - D:
4: ChiboSempai - go away!
5: Inui - good stuff king of evil
5: Oody
7: Ebo - awesome set :D
7: Phillyrider - good seeing you dude
9: Sabs
9. TUSM
 

Xzax Kasrani

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Brawl Doubles

1: The Chest Hair (Atomsk:snake::falcon: + Yes:warioc::snake::falcon:)
2: Inui and Rookie (Inui:snake::ganondorf:+ Rookie:fox::ganondorf:)
3: We Only Came For Frisbee... For Justice (ChiboSempai:rob: + AndyG:olimar::snake:)
4: Titans of Torment (Fury:lucario: + Nasty:lucas:)
5: MIB + Squall (MIB:dedede::toonlink:+ Squall:snake:)
5: What The Deuce (Xzax:wolf: + Vex:dedede:)
7: Ebo and KingToon (Ebo:dedede: + KingToon:toonlink:)
7: CNT (Chimpatk:diddy: + TAC:kirby2:)
9: Smurf and Hime (Smurf + Hime)
9: Allied and Ether (Allied + Ether)
9: I Don't Really Care (Oody + Clai)
9: Doubles Gods (Keitaro + Eazy)
13: I Don't Know (TUSM + Aztec Avenger)
13: Q (Mike + Max)


Brawl Singles
1: Max :popo::peach:
2: Atomsk :wolf::dedede:
3: Rookie :fox: :dedede:
4: Inui :snake::ike::dedede:
5: Vex Kasrani :bowser2:
5: Keitaro :falco: :diddy:
7: Eazy :marth:
7: AndyG :olimar::snake:
9: Ebo :marth: :dedede:
9: Squall :snake:
9: Nasty :lucas:
9: Chimpakt :diddy:
13: KingToon :toonlink:
13: TUSM :dedede:
13: ChiboSempai :rob:
13: Xzax :wolf:
17: Fury :falco::lucario:
17: Smurf :pit:
17: Aztec Avenger :olimar:
17: Wedge :mario2:
17: Yes(Forfeit)
17: Oody :shiek:
17: Phillyrider :peach:
17: Hime :olimar:
25: MIB :ness2:
25: Cel :marth:
25: Ninja Edd (Forfeit)
25: Bnzaaa :popo:
25: Ether (Forfeit)
25: Clai :ganondorf: :marth:
25: .com :olimar:
25: Allied (Forfeit)
33: Kaylo! (Forfeit)
33: Mike :mario2:
Edited for me.
Characters......Chibo use this for OP
 

Inui

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Xzax, I'm really really sure Wario did absolutely nothing to advance Atomsk.

He just lost two games with Wario to Max in grand finals set two or something.

Wario shouldn't be next to Atomsk's name; Wario did nothing to advance him.
 

Inui

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He won 1 of the games in the 2nd set with Wario.
Which did what to advance him in the bracket?

What part of that are you guys not understanding?

Ankoku made it clear for his character rankings.

Winning one game in a set you lost with one character doesn't mean that it gets the same amount of points as the character that actually won you sets.

Use your brain.

Wario has no business being next to Atomsk's name.
 

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Which did what to advance him in the bracket?

What part of that are you guys not understanding?

Ankoku made it clear for his character rankings.

Winning one game in a set you lost with one character doesn't mean that it gets the same amount of points as the character that actually won you sets.

Use your brain.

Wario has no business being next to Atomsk's name.
I must say i agree with you here

Xzax, you put snake next to my name when i only used him in one match in a set that i lost (to Max). You also put snake next to Smurf's name when he did not go snake in any matches this tourney... only in friendlies. He went all Pit, I went all Lucas. :) kthnx


Shoutouts tomorrow, i promise. lol
 

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Snake > ICs.
I back up this very short statement without a shadow of a doubt.

Inui work on nade grabbing / B reversal / spacing f tilts /, Ice Climbers are incredibly difficult to deal with if you don't have experience in the matchup.

Another thing that works is nadewalk towards them, spot dodge then instantly up tilt. Do that a couple times to fiddle with their sheild and pressure them to attack.

Snakes nair > icies side b, use that to your advantage when you get them offstage.
 

CT Chia

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Xzax, I'm really really sure Wario did absolutely nothing to advance Atomsk.

He just lost two games with Wario to Max in grand finals set two or something.

Wario shouldn't be next to Atomsk's name; Wario did nothing to advance him.
Using a character like once, doesn't warrant the char being next to your name imo. Using them multiple times and almost relying on them, whether or not you won does warrant it. Atomsk had to go Wario all of the final grand finals set, and it was his closest shot to beating Max. According to your logic, say someone who got last place didn't win a match but they mained Snake. Snake shouldn't be next to their name since he didn't get them a win? No, Snake should be there because it was also Snake that stopped him from getting wins.

~~~

I just realized I only lost to 1st and 3rd in bracket and got 13th :( :( :(

I'll try to get some vids up tonight or tomorrow. The only way I won't tonight is if I pass out after or during work since I don't think I've been this tired in such a long time. 3 hours of sleep night before DSO + ~4 hours of sleep last night (that drive home was brutal lol) = mad tired.

~~~

Also sorry again about the lack of a stable stream, there was a lot of technical difficulties. I really didn't want to travel with my giant desktop computer so I brought my laptop which I had formatted the night before at 4am, so to put the situation in perspective - I didn't even have all the drivers reinstalled yet when I got to the venue. The software didn't work as it should have planned to. I'm also going to talk to Drexel to see about getting wired internet in there for next time, cause I want the stream to be big news for BtL2.

Oh man my Brawl+ sets with Atomsk and Yes were crazy.
 

Vex Kasrani

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I regret not saving the replays vs Atomsk, but it really doesn't matter to me, it was just a great set and full of funz, shoutouts later maybe...
 

Inui

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Using a character like once, doesn't warrant the char being next to your name imo. Using them multiple times and almost relying on them, whether or not you won does warrant it. Atomsk had to go Wario all of the final grand finals set, and it was his closest shot to beating Max. According to your logic, say someone who got last place didn't win a match but they mained Snake. Snake shouldn't be next to their name since he didn't get them a win? No, Snake should be there because it was also Snake that stopped him from getting wins.
Why are you so dumb?

When it comes to top 8, only characters that advance the player in the bracket in important sets should be next to their name.

Ankoku specifically stated this many times for his character rankings.

Putting Wario next to Atomsk's name skews the results, fool. Why don't you understand this?

I back up this very short statement without a shadow of a doubt.

Inui work on nade grabbing / B reversal / spacing f tilts /, Ice Climbers are incredibly difficult to deal with if you don't have experience in the matchup.

Another thing that works is nadewalk towards them, spot dodge then instantly up tilt. Do that a couple times to fiddle with their sheild and pressure them to attack.

Snakes nair > icies side b, use that to your advantage when you get them offstage.
Or I can just **** every IC with MK like how I destroyed Max in an MM with MK after the tournament.
 

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Results for MK-banned, low tier, or anything that doesn't involve all 37 characters should not count towards Ankoku's list to begin with, but Inui is right.
 

Inui

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Results for MK-banned, low tier, or anything that doesn't involve all 37 characters should not count towards Ankoku's list to begin with, but Inui is right.
I'm aware, but the standard shouldn't change. Wario did nothing to help Atomsk get 2nd besides...lose.

A seperate list for MK-banned stuff is in the works or a possibility, you know...
 

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I know you were aware, I wasn't contradicting anything you said, lol. Wario definitely should not be up there.

I did not know that there was a separate list, thanks for clearing that up.
 

CT Chia

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i wasnt posting the characters for ankokous list or w.e, i honestly didnt kno if that was still being made. i just put em so ppl kno who played who
 

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lol dangggg whoever this max person is must be a beast xD! nice job to you sir ahahaha.

IC's broken as F***!
 
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