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Japan Smash Discussion

Zen Yore

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Japanese version has cooler sfx.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29FuqN75S1c

Discuss buffs, nerfs, videos, combos, matchups, smashers, etc

(thanks to malva and A$):

Mario: Little shorter, lower up B, fireball does more stun but is 1% weaker, fireball goes farther, shorter roll

Luigi: higher jump and double jump, little shorter, lower up b, fireball has more stun but is 1% weaker, up b sends opponent a tad higher and makes opponent fly up and more to the side, fireball goes farther, shorter roll, forward throw is 12% back is 16% LOL in our version it's 16% forward 12% back, forward throw sends opponent farther and back throw sends opponent not as far LOL

Fox: Down tilt is 2% weaker, Up B has invincible frames in the beginning, is 3% weaker, and knocks opponent way more horizontally, can do special japanese only turn slide, laser is 1% weaker but knocks opponent back farther, down smash knocks opponent away much more vertically, reflected attacks do different amount of damage, reflector pushes opponent away faster and down-away more by 2 frames

Kirby: forward throw knocks opponent away more horizontally, up b goes a little higher, can do special japanese only turn slide, down smash/up smash are 2% stronger, up air is 2% stronger for beginning of attack, 1% stronger hitting a little after you've started it, same strength for ending of the attack, down B is 2% stronger, roll is a tad longer.

Pikachu: Pikachu B spark goes farther, forward smash has shorter hitbox, dash attack has less knock back.
Link: Up tilt is 5% stronger/down air 2% stronger/up smash 2% stronger total(goes 8-12-24), higher jump/double jump/up b, boomerang goes farther, bomb doesn't make opponent flip over unless they are at higher damage, his sword looks a little longer, I think his up b/forward air does 1% more damage in combos sometimes, bomb is 2% stronger from every angle except only 1% stronger when thrown from above the opponent, nair doesn't knock the opponent away as far but a little more downwards, first kick of bair is 1 frame faster and second kick sends opponent more downwards and away

Yoshi
: little higher first jump, travels more slowly through the air horizontally, down smash is 1% weaker, can do special japanese only turn slide

Jiggly:
down B is 6% weaker, can do special japanese only turn slide, down smash has shorter hitbox

Falcon
: Higher jump/double jump/up B, forward tilt is 1% stronger, runs slower

DK: can do japanese only special turn slide

Ness: less lag after landing with up B body attack, up B body attack hitbox lasts longer and is 5% stronger, up tilt is 1% stronger but makes the opponent fly lower, up air is 2% stronger, fire B attack is 9% weaker total, all smash attacks are 2% stronger -___-

Samus
: when standing next to tall characters and facing them, up smash only hits with one attack. in the american version up smash hits with the first two attacks in that situation

Differences for all characters: Much less DI, Less attack stun for ATTACKING player.
for videos, check out :

http://www.youtube.com/mevsec (2007 videos, search)

http://www.youtube.com/princenamesmash
 

dch111

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Ideally there should be a combination of both versions' sfx for the ultimate sound experience. I still prefer american sounds though if I had to choose because of the PING sound that's trademark smash
 

NixxxoN

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Link and Ness are better in this game and they should havent been nerfed IMO, but

Also, I like the punch sounds more but I miss the PING sound of the rest/uppercut.

Overall dont like this version much, for the almost non existant DI. I suppose lots of people will agree.

Oh, and btw... does everyone has items menu and all characters appeared as default? and/or there are GS cheats too?
 

Kefit

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After playing the US version of SSB64 for so long, all of the JP sound effects sound excessively strange to me. Definitely prefer the US sfx.

Less DI and less attack lag seem like they would make JP SSB64 too broken to be very fun, but I don't have enough experience with it to comment much about that.
 

asianaussie

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Link's recovery is like...a millimetre or two higher on the TV...

I love Kirby's F-Throw on the *** version.

Mention the Japan-only slide dash. IIRC Kirby, Jiggs, Fox, Yoshi, DK and Luigi (?) can do it. I forget the exact mechanics, but I think you have let go of the control stick at some point. Someone should get frame data.

I hate how J.a.p. is a swear word.
 

Rupus

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J.a.p. was (And still is, but to a lesser extent) a racial slur directed at people of Japanese decent. So yeah, it's offensive, that's why it's filtered. The correct abbreviation for Japan (Or Japanese) is just JP.

I haven't really played JP Smash too much, but I do like it when I play it. There differences are pretty minimal though, apart from the DI thing.
 

DemonicInfluence

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The punching sounds makes the japanese version sound dumb. That's why Japanese smash is just not as coool. Also, Jigglypuff's rest nerf is really really lame.

~ImNotPro
 

hamburglar

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I love how 90% of the Japanese version's menus is in english with the japanese kana translations in the bottom. English is so hip
 

chuckj

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i really like japanese version, its cool :p

i asked japanese players to send me cheat files so i have all characters, item switch etc. or i just play on N64 lol
 

Battlecow

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Fox's Firefox (up-b) makes a lot more sense in the Japanese version. I've always been a little suspicious of the way you go straight up after getting hit by a fox flying straight at you. but hey, who said the game had to make sense?
 

Lovage

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i like the sound effects better but i wouldn't want to play on it because it has less DI

DIing is one of the funnest things in this game for me
 

MiketheMike

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I hate Jigglys rest cuase its not powerful and luigis Up-B move doesn't make that sound, rather a punching sound which is stupid. I do like Foxs split cause it kicks the oppenent in the air and Kirbys front grab sends the opponent flying off the stage rather than the air.
 

WOTG

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Any links to Japanese Link players?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzvR-PIjo7I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISekL3X8fic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM4AbwLTJzU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuW0XEha3Hk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYvOr0shx0E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ4D19oqniA

The most I can recall. Of course all from Isai's youtube.
Also, I don't think Link is buffed up in the Japanese version. He's either the same as the U.S. Version, or worse. His utilt is stronger, but its harder for him to connect combos, and connect finishers.
 

chuckj

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just get used to Link utilt :p


i think Ness-Boy plays nice with ness too. japanese ness pwns :p
 

dch111

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzvR-PIjo7I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISekL3X8fic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM4AbwLTJzU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuW0XEha3Hk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYvOr0shx0E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ4D19oqniA

The most I can recall. Of course all from Isai's youtube.
Also, I don't think Link is buffed up in the Japanese version. He's either the same as the U.S. Version, or worse. His utilt is stronger, but its harder for him to connect combos, and connect finishers.
Ah, cool. thanks ^^
 

KoRoBeNiKi

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I've been trying SSB (J) lately... So this basically means you can string moves faster? That was my impression..
it basically means that its much easier to combo as moves have more hitstun and its much more difficult to DI out of stuff.
 

kit

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I actually bought this game about a month or two ago... I didn't mod my 64 but I did saw the edges/ends of the cart off haha

I really enjoy the japanese version, its a good change up within the limits of the same smash universe that I love. My favorite thing so far is foxes down smash... I like it more (except for edgeguarding) If i could have a melee forward smash on my japanese fox he would be perfect.
 
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