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Blog of the Week: "Kids These Days!"

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or "You Seem to Forget Who Will Be Choosing Your Long Term Care Facility, Mom;" or "Don't You Dare Ask Me to Fix Your Computer or Show You How to Use Your Phone, You Senile Old Fool."

http://moneywatch.bnet.com/saving-m...tion/guess-who-is-the-dumbest-generation/887/

Now. I know that the article in question is from October and the book that inspired it is from March of last year, but there's more. There's this deep, unyielding hatred of people under 30 that seems to recur every generation. This time, however, it seems to be worse. Not only are we "Millennials" dumb, have short attention spans, have no work ethic, and no social skills; but the blue-rinse brigade will still have you believe that Generation X is still lazy, still living in their parents' basement/attic/"guest" room (even though they never have company anyway), doing drugs, and playing NHL '96 while riding their s/o's bareback.

Here's a disclaimer: I live with my parents and I'm a married 26 year old woman. We were casualities of that perfect storm of Katrina-related illnesses and the flagging economy. Yeah, we could've planned better, but my parents needed extra help around the house. Everybody wins. I don't have to pay rent and they don't have to cut the grass. Works out great. Of course, they have no grass and won't let me seed it.

That, then, brings me back to my point. I'm incapable of choosing a grass seed and planting it properly, because I'm a gardening n00b (though the spouse has extensive land-scaping experience). I read up. I read hundreds of reviews, how-tos, and personal anecdotes about grass. All on the internet. Yeah, I don't have a lawn and the experience that comes with it, but I have something just as good as that experience: Access to the collective knowledge and experience that the Internet provides and the skills to find the needed information. Old people can't do that, though the AARP will have you believe this generation of old people is different. It's not. They're still bald and still have the walking farts and wear nostalgia glasses, as a commenter on the linked article mentioned.

Supposedly, sitting here on the internet, sending thousands of text messages a month, and living solely for the pleasure that is "Pokemon Rumble" has me a moron. Really? Really? I have a skill set that my parents or grandparents could never have. I have access to knowledge and culture and art that other generations didn't have. Even if they did have it, they'd have used some slur and demonstrated the typical American xenophobia about it. God forbid I should be watching French people do funny things on YouTube or download films from Africa. Maybe I'm not reading antiquated, culturally irrelevant dreck like Dickens or Twain that are replete with the stench of bigotry and ignorance, but have my parents or yours seen any of the brilliant films or read some of the insightful, thought provoking blogs and periodicals from around the world?

Supposedly, we're not getting enough social interaction. Given the near-necessity for us to take on McJobs and deal with old people and other assorted idiots, can you blame us? I work in an automotive shop. The sheer volume of idiocy I deal with from the over-45 crowd is brain-dissolving. I have no choice but to hide and use the internet to seek out my intellectual equal. It's your fault, Baby Boomers. Every day, I see some 50 year old ******* come in with some computerized import and they can't do something as simple as turn off the light that tells them to get their oil changed. They get mad when they find out the precious Saab (GOOD RIDDANCE TO SAAB, BTW) takes a battery you can't buy anywhere but a GM dealer and, that even if we did have it (which we usually do, it's just easier to say we don't), we couldn't change it because we don't have the right equipment to keep your computer from going ape-**** in the absence of a battery. "It's a car, not a computer!" they invariably cry. I point out that there's no real difference now. That's why I hide. I'm a glutton for this stuff, too, you know. I'm going to school to be a mechanic and I know my computer skills will be a major boon and give me a competitive edge for jobs. You say your car doesn't run right after you get off the freeway? I can fix that. Let me just grab my laptop and I'll get to know your ECM better. "Huh? Is there going to be a virus on my car? You'd better not download a porno to my car!" First off, Professor Farnsworth, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard and it's called "pr0n," with a zero.

See, I used to work for cell phone customer care. Invariably, some old fool would get a phone that was worth more than their feeble little life and they'd call wanting to learn how to use it. I'd fix the problem and then spend another hour listening to them talk about their pet bird and help them figure out why their kids don't call (NEWSFLASH: YOU'RE BORING AND SMELL LIKE NEOSPORIN, PREP H, AND BENGAY). When our generation gets bored or lonely, we go on the internet. One of my new favorite people is this really awesome dude from India I've gotten to know thanks to my unhealthy, lame obsession with a certain browser game. He's a really straight cat. That's what we do. We don't go to the grocery store and socialize by the bread aisle. No, we hit Facespace or Mybook. We go to message boards and chat rooms and meet new people. I even met my husband on this social-skill-reducing techno-home-wrecker. Unlike most of the over-45, our marriage works and we resisted the urge to pop out babies to cope with our crappy lives and the voids in our relationship (which is what my parents and, I'll bet, your parents did).

I want pizza, now, **** it. Stupid "X-Files."

Anyway, tl/dr: Hitler and old people bad; the Vandals and young people good.
 

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Tempted to quote for epic truth.

No but really, the "kids these days" thing has always been, and always will be some stupid **** our dumb*** older generation are spouting because they lack the ability to deal with them correctly.

I guess it was okay when they were hippies in the 60s with stupid clothes and taking drugs, it was about peace and love. I bet it was okay for them to dress as freaky punks in the 70s because it was all about "FIGHT THE OPPRESSIVE POWER"!

Basically it's the same story with most people, a depth of thought comparable to a puddle, causing them to dismiss everything they can't relate to as silly and idiotic. Actually no, not if it's classic literature or art, then it's "Oh yes well you see there's no doubt that it was a masterpiece but you know I just can't relate to it."

I could go on for a very long time.

I hate people.
 

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Whenever anyone starts talking about 'kids these days' I just bring up how the Kensky report shows almost no change in our sexual behavior when you factor in the problems with his statistics (that he admits) compared to today's studies. We have the same number of homosexual men, we start having sex at the same time and jerking off at the same time. My uncle can basically confirm it to you. The 50s were not as wholesome as people make it out to be, he can tell you that. Women were the same, only they repressed it and kept it hidden from the public eye, but in reality they would meet up with guys from other schools and have sex with them.

Repressing our sexual desire to the extent that some people want us to do is as dangerous as repressing our desire to eat. Its probably why white people are so ****ed up in the head.
 

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Supposedly, we're not getting enough social interaction. Given the near-necessity for us to take on McJobs and deal with old people and other assorted idiots, can you blame us? I work in an automotive shop. The sheer volume of idiocy I deal with from the over-45 crowd is brain-dissolving. I have no choice but to hide and use the internet to seek out my intellectual equal. It's your fault, Baby Boomers. Every day, I see some 50 year old ******* come in with some computerized import and they can't do something as simple as turn off the light that tells them to get their oil changed. They get mad when they find out the precious Saab (GOOD RIDDANCE TO SAAB, BTW) takes a battery you can't buy anywhere but a GM dealer and, that even if we did have it (which we usually do, it's just easier to say we don't), we couldn't change it because we don't have the right equipment to keep your computer from going ape-**** in the absence of a battery. "It's a car, not a computer!" they invariably cry. I point out that there's no real difference now. That's why I hide. I'm a glutton for this stuff, too, you know. I'm going to school to be a mechanic and I know my computer skills will be a major boon and give me a competitive edge for jobs. You say your car doesn't run right after you get off the freeway? I can fix that. Let me just grab my laptop and I'll get to know your ECM better. "Huh? Is there going to be a virus on my car? You'd better not download a porno to my car!" First off, Professor Farnsworth, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard and it's called "pr0n," with a zero.
spookyskeptic, this is the best blog ever.

I work at a gas station that has a garage (in fact, I'm standing in it as I type this), and this hits home so hard. I'm not a mechanic, but I check oil, tire pressure and other simple stuff. It's amazing how many people come in, young and old, that don't know the basics of their vehicles. There's a steady group of about 10 people (all old ladies, of course) that don't even know how to pump gas, so I do it for them. This isn't rocket science people. The one that really drives me up the wall is when someone asks you to check their oil, and then they stand there and watch you do it! I just want to say to them, "Now was that so hard, you ****ing moron?"

And don't even get me started with how dumb people are when they come in for repair work. I told my boss that I've worked with him for too long, because I assume that everyone that walks into the door is a jerk, and they have to prove otherwise.

Honestly, I can't wait for all the baby boomers to die so we can stop hearing about how amazing the 1960's were. If I have to watch one more goddamn special about Woodstock...
 

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The cake-takers, Gaius, are the mid-life crisis guys with their painstakingly restored 2nd and 3rd gen 'Vettes or the brand new Vipers... and they wanna make sure the engine's protected so against all logic and reason they insist we put 20W50 in it. I'm like o.0 Srsly? You do realize that would create enough pressure behind your seals to either blow said seals or make diamonds? Or the old women that complain about paying $30 for an oil change, but call you a liar when you explain how the $50 synthetic oil change will actually save them money. Gah.

Mobil 1 0w30, ftw.
 

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Let's be honest, we'll probably be saying the same things in another 30 or 40 years, assuming we live that long.
 

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@ spookyskeptic- It's all the same ****ing thing (not counting synthetic). People say to me, "Are you putting in 5w30? My car only takes 5w30," and I nod and pour in the 10w30.

But nothing pisses me off more than dealing with gas customers. They either don't understand how a credit card works, what "Pay First" means, or they don't understand the big yellow and black "Self Service" signs all over the pumps.

Ha, let me stop ranting before I completely derail the thread.
 

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Let's be honest, we'll probably be saying the same things in another 30 or 40 years, assuming we live that long.
So basically what you are saying is that you can't imagine standing on a chair in a room to gain a new perspective. You are saying that you shall repeat the mistakes of your father and his fathers.
 

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There is a difference, Gaius, and using a read out tool for the engine computer will demonstrate. I've seen how my car puts out with lightweight oil versus how it performs with heavyweight oil. There's a difference. There's a huge difference, especially in fuel economy. Now, between 5w30 and 10w30, it's a negligible difference, but have you ever looked at 20w50 or any other weight designed for diesels and power equipment? It's like freakin' syrup.
 

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This blog wins the internet, the game, and life itself.

And it makes me wonder: how is it that our generation is so looked down on? because people in our generation can connect?

And speaking of generations, have you people taken a look around? Just to show everybody, what with the state the rest of the world is in now (food industry, poverty, governmental corruption, racial hate, pollution, etc.) It just dissapoints me to see how those horrible teenagers texting each have caused all of the listed in parentheses. Oh wait, that's right, all this happened while the world was under control of the current generation, but since they're so perfect, it has to be our fault, right?

HINT: wrong

P.S. (not falcon lulz this time) On the contrary, the disadvantage of text-based communication is that it is difficult to induce sarcasm into a post.

/make a point
 

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I can honestly say that my grandfather has never complained about this generation. He loves the internet and technology, and if he asks a question about how something works, he asks. I think most older people are like that, but, just like everything else, the ones who complain are always the loudest.
 

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Epic blog.

Those of you that say "I hate people"... you are people too... you have in some amount every trait that irritates you about the population as a whole. Keep that in mind.
 

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I can totally relate to this thread.

I'm 19, and after I graduate with my transfer degree this year I'll transfer to Western Oregon University and get my bachelor's in Biology. Right now I'm taking classes at my local community college because my parents wanted to save a ton of money before I went off to a university.

Anyhoo. I work here at the school as a tutor in math and science. Because of the economic decline, there have been a lot of older people who have been laid off from their jobs (especially in the mills, which have been HAMMERED here in Oregon) and have to go back to school since they have not much else to get back to work.

I've had to tutor many people who are 40 years old and up and it's just crazy how they don't know even the most fundamental stuff in math and the various sciences. So yes, I can easily sympathize with the general cluelessness of many older people.

Both my parents were baby boomers. My dad is about as extreme as a conservative as you can get (read my previous blog entries on how insane he can get) and my mom's health has begun to deterioriate quite a bit because she has quite poor eating habits. Both of my parents of which have gone off the tangent of "kids these days have no morals/work ethic blah blah blah" and I just find it quite hypocritical of them to lambast the younger generations when they themselves are already dealing with their own problems.

Oh and:

They either don't understand how a credit card works, what "Pay First" means, or they don't understand the big yellow and black "Self Service" signs all over the pumps.
You can't pump your own gas here in Oregon <3.
 

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My mother actually DOES know how to use technology and understands the importance. Not *****ing about being on the computer all day, instead of GOING OUT TO PLAY WITH MY FRIENDS WHEN I AM 15 AND THEY LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN CITY. I am proud of her.
 

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People it's called empathy everyone's pointing fingers at each other and not actually realizing the faults in ourselves. Ya we probably spend too much time on the internet just except it.

They need to realize too that just because we do the things we do, doesn't mean were not going to serve our purpose latter in life.
 

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I definitely wish you made this blog a few weeks ago because this would have for sure won blog of the year....
I agree with all of it except it should be Myface and Spacebook not Mybook and Facespace :]

Other than that, complete win.
 

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Those of you that say "I hate people"... you are people too... you have in some amount every trait that irritates you about the population as a whole. Keep that in mind.
I don't have the traits I hate.

I'm not stupid, jealous, someone who lies unnecessarily, a thief, a sellout, a sheep, narrow minded, and hell I'm on my way to completely destroying every last drop of pride I have left.

So nah, I think I'm fine with how I see things.
 

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I'm not a preacher though, people have to work things out themselves.

Plus I'm amoral, so that kinda shoots the whole thing down.
 

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Nah it's cool I can see it lol.
 

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I hate to say it, but I'll bet we'll all be incoherently blabbering at the next generation in 40, maybe 50 years. There's no avoiding it IMO, it's human nature; as long as we don't kill ourselves as a result of social dysfunction, we'll eventually become senile. :L

By the way, why is dysfunction spelled with a 'y'? D:
 

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I don't have the traits I hate.

I'm not stupid, jealous, someone who lies unnecessarily, a thief, a sellout, a sheep, narrow minded, and hell I'm on my way to completely destroying every last drop of pride I have left.

So nah, I think I'm fine with how I see things.
So you know everything, never want anything, always hurt people's feelings with your honest opinion, always find the owner of a dollar on the sidewalk, are never subconsciously influenced by advertising one bit, have never said someone was lying when they were truthful, and *drumroll* never assign yourself better qualities than the average person?

You're HUMAN, you screw up, you're a "sinner", and so am I. Hate to break it to you.

Don't take it personally. You are probably better than the large majority of people when it comes to values and integrity. But if someone puts themselves on a higher level than others, it breeds selfishness, moral laziness, and a lack of empathy. The only way we can improve as people is to identify our faults.

I think I'm going off topic here...
 

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So you know everything, never want anything, always hurt people's feelings with your honest opinion, always find the owner of a dollar on the sidewalk, are never subconsciously influenced by advertising one bit, have never said someone was lying when they were truthful, and *drumroll* never assign yourself better qualities than the average person?
For those that are actually applicable and not blown up ridiculously, yes.

Intelligence =/= omniscience, jealousy doesn't necessarily equate to wanting, yes, yes I do it's a very signature character trait of mine, theft =/= picking up something untraceable and forgotten, I'm consciously influenced by advertising for videogames that might be to my liking, I don't accuse someone of lying unless I'm certain they are, pride =/= knowing your strengths.

I could do this all day, my most negative trait is being unyieldingly stubborn.

Plus, I don't believe in morality and sins etc etc.
 

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A lot of people past the age of 21, and sometimes less, are just like this, or at least think of something in their generation as better in the current.

Usually at least. Which is BS.

From my experiences.

I've edited this a lot, but I can say I'm pretty much guilty of the same, and this statement really explains it well.

CBSdudecommenterguy said:
As people get older they tend to resist the ever changing world, mostly because every sane person wants to be young forever. This could be an unconscious reflex in trying to resist aging. People lie to themselves in order to come to terms with inevitable death, but no one truly wants to die (unless they face a miserable existence).

Hence people start to view the world through "nostalgia goggles" looking back at the good old times! If they stop to think as to why it was "good old times" they'd realize it was only so because they were younger.
 

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Let's be honest, we'll probably be saying the same things in another 30 or 40 years, assuming we live that long.
Probably.

So basically what you are saying is that you can't imagine standing on a chair in a room to gain a new perspective. You are saying that you shall repeat the mistakes of your father and his fathers.
It's not a mistake. What it is is a normal reaction when you see your time passing and the world moving on without you. Every generation sees this because with every generation the world changes and a set of hard-earned skills is diminished and rendered obsolete. The thing that fades is nothing less than someone's life's work. To struggle for your entire life, to build something, and to live long enough to see it be superseded--that is not easy.

It's hard for the young to understand, I think, because the young have not achieved as much as the old, typically.

You'd have to imagine if, one day, everything that you're currently doing right now is suddenly no longer needed. If everything that you've learned in your life suddenly seems to no longer apply, and no one understands what was ever so great about Pokemon or SSB or forums or games or information that you could only get off a screen.

In the future, our little Internet subculture will be gone too.

It'll be the same thing as what was said in that article, just in reverse. You'll hear it all again, one day, but it'll come from those younger than you rather than those older than you.

I think both young and old could potentially learn a lot from each other; I think knowledge can flow both ways. But I do admit that it is a distance that is difficult to cross. Something is always lost in translation.

Edit:

"When a teenager is watching someone stuff a bag of marshmallows in his mouth on You Tube, he’s obviously not learning about the Gettysburg Address or following what’s going on with the health care debate."

Actually, I think watching someone stuff a bag of marshmallows into his mouth on Youtube is about as useful as learning the Gettysburg Address or following the god**** health care debacle--I mean, "debate."

the blue-rinse brigade will still have you believe that Generation X is still lazy, still living in their parents' basement/attic/"guest" room (even though they never have company anyway), doing drugs, and playing NHL '96 while riding their s/o's bareback.
Yeah, that's totally off.

Except for the lazy and the bare--

Never mind.
 

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Well said, El Nino.

You'd have to imagine if, one day, everything that you're currently doing right now is suddenly no longer needed. If everything that you've learned in your life suddenly seems to no longer apply, and no one understands what was ever so great about Pokemon or SSB or forums or games or information that you could only get off a screen.
Hah actually.. >.> no but yeah this is like how -I- felt the first time I tried to install a Quicktime update and a F'ing error message shows up "You're not running a current enough version of System Software, please upgrade to blah blah blah" so I look into upgrading and OHHHH my computer won't RUN that! Great. So now I'm just stuck? Yep. No choice but to either use what I have, or buy a new computer. Worse, what I have ends up being less and less useful as time goes on, because everything else keeps upgrading and I'm further forced into the position of HAVING to upgrade the computer, or just giving up on it altogether.

My response? I gave up, lol. I ain't fallin' for the racket, no sir. I will be using a PowerMac G4 running os x 10.2 Jaguar for the rest of my life. Ok no I won't, but it stings knowing I -have- to change.

Why'd they do it that way? Oh yeah so you'd have to keep paying them money. Good show. Meh.

As for living decrepit into my 90's and waving my walking stick at the youngin's touting "back in my day we did it all with computers" ... no. Not me. I wanna go out big. hard. fast. I wanna be on the edge of life looking over into the endless abyss, right up until my last breath. that's why I spend so much time online. I mean really, how much more exciting can life get when we have such spectacles as 2 girls 1 cup. :lick:
 

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As for living decrepit into my 90's and waving my walking stick at the youngin's touting "back in my day we did it all with computers" ... no. Not me. I wanna go out big. hard. fast. I wanna be on the edge of life looking over into the endless abyss, right up until my last breath.
Whereas I'll probably end up in a cabin in Montana, eating beans out of a can, growing my hair out onto the floor, working on a manifes--uh, manuscript.

I mean really, how much more exciting can life get when we have such spectacles as 2 girls 1 cup. :lick:
Thanks for that lovely mental image. Really.
 
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