Which is exactly why we should have it so it takes a more forceful motions to roll/dodge so that shield aiming is a bigger part of the game and people don't feel like they're getting randomly shield poked.
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Project M Social Thread
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GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Oh God yes. I'm so tired of constantly getting poked at near full shield.
5ive
Smash Champion
~Shao~
Smash Ace
Concerning Kirby's u-air. Will it kill like in Melee or combo like in Brawl?
Revven
FrankerZ
Posting stream on new page: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/im5ive
kupo15
Smash Hero
I hope they have my stage size and boundary codes on to try them out.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Honestly up-smash isn't a bad move... uptilt just outclasses it in almost every possible way, so why bother using up-smash?
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
I know that^^ but it basically makes it useless. Like, if a low tier had Marth's usmash it would be more useful.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Yeah, why don't we give it to a low tier? I kid, I kid
5ive
Smash Champion
Project M feels amazing. Extraordinary improvement from the last time I played. Very impressed.
jalued
Smash Lord
im looking forward to individual friction, so its less slidy and brawlish
still looks like brawl when u watch it imoYL would have appreciated it, his uptilt and upsmash were both pretty useless because of CC...
actually wait, he was pretty useless cause of CC (i second him btw, hes still fun to play :D )
was wondering if CC can be coded, that its less prominent than its melee counterpart. You could CC some tilts at 100%+ and it just feels slightly too powerful. maybe make it so that from 40%-60% you have 8 frames to CC, 60-80 say 4 frames, 80%-100% 2 frames, and 100%+ 1 frame (just an example)
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
lol when are you ever in the situation to CC a usmash? It's a combo move, I always SDI out of it though.
jalued
Smash Lord
YL upsmash? i always find it gets CCed.
its just that quite a few characters were destroyed by CC, roy and YL come to mind first
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
No, YLink gets destroyed over the fact that his FF is a$$, he gets cg'd a lot, and his ****ty KO ability. Comparing YLink to Roy is absurd. The only moves Roy has that doesn't get CC ***** (including aerials WTF) is his fsmash and his dsmash. YLink has his dair, his quick dsmash, and the second hit of his fsmash. Thats not a lot but YLink can do something Roy can't, throw 'Rangs and Bombs. Believe me, I play TRC, his YLink is crazy (see "Use your bombs wisely").
kupo15
Smash Hero
Ylink doesn't have a bad FF, he doesn't even HAVE a FF !! LOL!
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
He has one, it just BARELY makes him fall faster. It's basically unnoticable.
edit: fastest reply you've ever SEEN.
I'm watching this thread like this
edit: fastest reply you've ever SEEN.
I'm watching this thread like this
wiitubeaccount
Smash Apprentice
will falco and fox sound coo like they did in melee. especially falco he sounds lame in brawl but gangsta in melee.
meta knight and jiggs won't be gay nor sucky i hope
meta knight and jiggs won't be gay nor sucky i hope
Magus420
Smash Master
It makes him accelerate to top speed faster, but the top speed is the same as his normal fall so it won't do anything if you've already been falling for more than a split second and would already be at top speed anyway.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
I played Mario a couple times. None of us really have any Mario experience (though I have Doc experience) so we don't use him much. If you request him in the chat though next time, I'll use him a bit for you.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
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Wait, he really doesn't have a FF?!
That's what you just did to me, I hope you're happy.
Wind Owl
Smash Lord
Magus, I don't know why, but that is the most irritating avatar I've ever seen in my life.
lol I agree as well. I was mesmerized by it 'cause it annoys me everytime my internet hits its slow speed and the video buffers every 10 seconds.
And @ the need more Mario exposure comment. I'll play some Mario as well, though I don't know how to use him, the next time 5ive plans to stream Proj.M. I don't know how to use many characters to be honest.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Some Doc experience can be played into Mario, but a lot of their moves change how you play them like Mario's UTilt and Uair vs. Doc's UTilt and Uair.
Yeah. Its coming along nicely. Everything seems much easier to do though, in terms of Advance Techniques, compared to Melee. Its not a bad thing though. I believe it may be the buffer system that has something to do with it?
A lot of Brawl characters are making really good transition to Melee. Characters like Snake are very unique to Melee's mechanics because he was meant for Brawl in the first place. It feels a bit awkward playing/watching Snake in Melee mechanics but I'll eventually adapt.
The controls are much better than expected. You get the Melee feeling, but yet, there's still something missing. It might just be me playing too much Melee. We can't expect a perfect Melee out of Brawl. Also, there are areas that still feel a bit "slippery". For example, some JC grabs cover way too much distance.
Once you get the landing detection code, I'm sure it would feel really precise. Wavedashes right now are extremely easy. Anyone can pick it up and learn how to wavedash perfectly. In Melee, it takes time to learn it and then apply it in game frequently/wisely. I'm looking forward to the land detection code.
We can't Scar jump. We're only allowed to jump once on the same wall. I'm assuming you guys forgot to put in the code for Scar jump.
There are some characters that may need attention but that's what open beta is for.
Also, do you need videos for the upcoming trailer? We had some really good matches but we didn't save any. We thought it would be useless since there's always a new patch almost everyday adjusting something. Putting some of the stuff on the new trailer would really hype it up I believe. There were many amazing moments that could be done in Melee - which I think is worth showing on the trailer.
Anyways. Its good and I'm looking forward to the next stream.
A lot of Brawl characters are making really good transition to Melee. Characters like Snake are very unique to Melee's mechanics because he was meant for Brawl in the first place. It feels a bit awkward playing/watching Snake in Melee mechanics but I'll eventually adapt.
The controls are much better than expected. You get the Melee feeling, but yet, there's still something missing. It might just be me playing too much Melee. We can't expect a perfect Melee out of Brawl. Also, there are areas that still feel a bit "slippery". For example, some JC grabs cover way too much distance.
Once you get the landing detection code, I'm sure it would feel really precise. Wavedashes right now are extremely easy. Anyone can pick it up and learn how to wavedash perfectly. In Melee, it takes time to learn it and then apply it in game frequently/wisely. I'm looking forward to the land detection code.
We can't Scar jump. We're only allowed to jump once on the same wall. I'm assuming you guys forgot to put in the code for Scar jump.
There are some characters that may need attention but that's what open beta is for.
Also, do you need videos for the upcoming trailer? We had some really good matches but we didn't save any. We thought it would be useless since there's always a new patch almost everyday adjusting something. Putting some of the stuff on the new trailer would really hype it up I believe. There were many amazing moments that could be done in Melee - which I think is worth showing on the trailer.
Anyways. Its good and I'm looking forward to the next stream.
kupo15
Smash Hero
In relation to buffering, I'm going to have to insist that it is not a preference thing that everyone is subject to the same buffering setting just like melee. Fox's waveshine is really freaking hard and it should be the same amount of difficulty from one Fox to the next.
If you want to be a faster x character then the next person, you need to learn your frame data and timings and practice that, not let the game buffer frame perfect inputs for you.
If you want to be a faster x character then the next person, you need to learn your frame data and timings and practice that, not let the game buffer frame perfect inputs for you.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
**** 502.
Good to hear this project is feeling pretty close already. This is going to get so many good responses even on first public beta. It's going to be worth the wait easily.
Good to hear this project is feeling pretty close already. This is going to get so many good responses even on first public beta. It's going to be worth the wait easily.
Shell
Flute-Fox Only
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Wind Owl is heading work on an optional Melee SFX replacement pack
MK and Jiggz will certainly not suck, and it's hard to put a finger on your exact interpretation of 'gay.' We'll just say they're fun and balanced and leave it at that, I guess.
MK and Jiggz will certainly not suck, and it's hard to put a finger on your exact interpretation of 'gay.' We'll just say they're fun and balanced and leave it at that, I guess.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Ah, I need to get in the IRC and ask about Dolphin configurations so I can help on that...
Its nothing big but would you guys be changing how cstick functions?
Shield + cstick left/right is a buffered roll
Shield + cstick down is a buffered spot dodge
Shield + cstick up is a hop/short hop depending on how fast you tap it
You can't cancel your running animation with cstick + up for uSmash, but instead, uSmash only comes out when you're in a neutral position or crouching position. If used with running animation, maybe make it into a dash attack or do nothing?
I'm fine with up + cstick up and down + cstick down being a uTitl and dTilt though.
Its nothing big. Just wondering if you guys ever in tend on changing it so its more Melee-like. It would make DACUS harder to perform though but at the same time, uSmash won't be as easy. You would either have to dash cancel to uSmash or JC uSmash from running animation.
Shield + cstick left/right is a buffered roll
Shield + cstick down is a buffered spot dodge
Shield + cstick up is a hop/short hop depending on how fast you tap it
You can't cancel your running animation with cstick + up for uSmash, but instead, uSmash only comes out when you're in a neutral position or crouching position. If used with running animation, maybe make it into a dash attack or do nothing?
I'm fine with up + cstick up and down + cstick down being a uTitl and dTilt though.
Its nothing big. Just wondering if you guys ever in tend on changing it so its more Melee-like. It would make DACUS harder to perform though but at the same time, uSmash won't be as easy. You would either have to dash cancel to uSmash or JC uSmash from running animation.
Sulfur
Smash Apprentice
After watching the stream, I'm very impressed by the progress you guys have made since I've seen before. I'm really excited to get my hands on it, after I've been following every post made in the thread.
Archangel
Smash Hero
God**** it I missed the stream
I thought the site was still down...... All the more reason why we should get a new trailer. Otherwise unlucky people like myself will miss everything.
I thought the site was still down...... All the more reason why we should get a new trailer. Otherwise unlucky people like myself will miss everything. Shepp
Smash Apprentice
for what its worth, i agree
jalued
Smash Lord
as do i
oh and referring to c-stick, is it (i know this has been asked time and time again, im just keeping the faith) possible to remove the glitch where it wont respond if not perfectly centered after every input? its very frustrating since most people rely on c-stick for ariels and makes the game feel unresponsive
Revven
FrankerZ
It's not a glitch, it's a Sakurai rule.
jalued
Smash Lord
haha well can we get rid of it?
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