Bdacus

saviorslegacy · Feb 6, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjTF5bEEYXo
Saw on my subs. Thought y'all would want to see it.

Ankoku said:
Stuff I'm unsure about will be in yellow
ふじた大先生流石です。
This is following Fujita-sensei's style.
先行入力DAをやり、1F目に上Sを入力できればこんな感じに滑ります。
If you are able to buffer a dash attack (from something else's ending animation), then input an up-smash 1F later, you will slide like this.
入力は行動終わり際に、スティック横+C上(orC下)＞C上
When the previous animation ends, you must input side + C-up (or down) --> C-up

How to Perform

xDD-Master said:
1) Random Move... For example Fair, right before you land
2) You land while the animation hasnt end
3) You should now be in the Fair Landing Lag Animation
4) Here you press Analog Stick Forward + C-Up ONCE and at the same time/frame (That means you dont hold the analog stick)
5) Now you mash C-Up

If you dont do Step 5, you should do an DA as soon as possible (After the landing lag of the fair)

You could try this first to get it like 50% consistent.

After you got this just do Step 5.

At least it worked for me, hopefully I could help ^^

Since everyone is calling it BDACUS then I guess that is its name.

ignore the fire · Feb 6, 2010

that's amazing!
how is it done?

comboking · Feb 6, 2010

I can't read the description what does it say? This is all I got with a translator lol.

流石 Dr. Fujita is large.
DA to do the type-ahead, 1F S 滑Rimasu on the second type if this feeling.
When the input end action on the next stick + C (orC below)> C on

Jupz · Feb 6, 2010

Oh this, Diddy Kong's have known about this but have been unable to recreate it. It should be able to help. I doubt any other characters can do it.

saviorslegacy · Feb 6, 2010

ignore the fire said:
that's amazing!
how is it done?

Maybe input a DACUS while in shield? I really don't know.
We need Ankoku to translate it into something that we can understand. Right now we need to just do our best and attempt to figure it out by using the crappy translation that google has provided.

Silent Beast · Feb 6, 2010

It says to dash attack and input an upsmash on the first frame. Input is control to the side/c-stick up (or down) --> c-stick up. (I think; I'm not positive about the second sentence I translated.)

Zankoku · Feb 6, 2010

Stuff I'm unsure about will be in yellow
ふじた大先生流石です。
This is following Fujita-sensei's style.
先行入力DAをやり、1F目に上Sを入力できればこんな感じに滑ります。
If you are able to buffer a dash attack (from something else's ending animation), then input an up-smash 1F later, you will slide like this.
入力は行動終わり際に、スティック横+C上(orC下)＞C上
When the previous animation ends, you must input side + C-up (or down) --> C-up

Mota · Feb 6, 2010

Wow, so much distance covered.

Would be sweet if all chars could do it.

sman5093 · Feb 6, 2010

Amazing tech. I just wonder how to do perform it.

Luigi player · Feb 6, 2010

Ah I finally got it to work... really cool x)

You can buffer it... (okay maybe not lol)

Controlstick forward then press cstick up 2 times. Can't do it consistently though.

I think you have to buffer the dash + 1 cstick up (then you'll buffer a dash attack) and then time the 2nd cstick up...

Pikabunz · Feb 6, 2010

Only way to do this is to buffer. Just flick the control stick forward and up-c twice. I believe down-c > up-c works too if that's easier for anyone. This works really well with Sheik too. I think Sheik can grab release MK and hit with a buffered DACUS.

X-FACTOR · Feb 6, 2010

So at the moment, is it universal/character specific?

Tristan_win · Feb 6, 2010

If someone could do this constantly then sidestepping would become much safer. Although for all we know it might not be limited to just side step, and maybe more then just Diddy kong can do it.

edit: after taking a better look though the diddy kong thread it seems you don't have to side step so the translation is correct.

I'm very excited about this discovery.

edit2: and I just did it on my second try in training mode with diddy.

-Cross- · Feb 6, 2010

OP I do not think he ever canceled the shield. The shielding at :05 was probably a screw up trying to spotdodge (hence shield was tilted down) and the shielding at :10 was just for u-smash OoS. He was probably trying to see if he could buffer the inputs within the shield drop frames.

Jupz · Feb 6, 2010

The only reason he would try to do it OOS is so he could buffer it during the shield drop frames.

Jem. · Feb 6, 2010

That's pretty solid, i'll see if I can mix that into my game somehow if it works with MK.

Zankoku · Feb 6, 2010

Tristan_win said:
If someone could do this constantly then sidestepping would become much safer. Although for all we know it might not be limited to just side step, and maybe more then just Diddy kong can do it.

edit: after taking a better look though the diddy kong thread it seems you don't have to side step so the translation is correct.

I'm very excited about this discovery.

edit2: and I just did it on my second try in training mode with diddy.

Yeah, I think InnocentRoads buffers from both spotdodge and dash attack in that video. The description doesn't say anything about needing a spotdodge, only needing something to buffer dash attack from.

iRJi · Feb 6, 2010

...? This is going into testing on my character Board ASAP. making the thread for it o_o

hichez50 · Feb 6, 2010

I probably wont work with lucario since he has no momentum going into a upsamsh

gm jack · Feb 6, 2010

K Prime said:
Only way to do this is to buffer. Just flick the control stick forward and up-c twice. I believe down-c > up-c works too if that's easier for anyone. This works really well with Sheik too. I think Sheik can grab release MK and hit with a buffered DACUS.

Sheiks have known about this for ages. A guaranteed kill on MK at 92% from a grab means it isn't that mad a matchup at all.

iRJi · Feb 6, 2010

gm jack said:
Sheiks have known about this for ages. A guaranteed kill on MK at 92% from a grab means it isn't that mad a matchup at all.

yea, I think everyone knows of that one. This is a different DACUS form though, which is why it was brought up, and needs to be tested.

hichez50 said:
I probably wont work with lucario since he has no momentum going into a upsamsh

Same thing I wrote above applies for this post ^^^^^^

Kewkky · Feb 6, 2010

Finally, an explanation for this. I was using Diddy randomly once and accidentally did it when I hit my opponent's shield... Guess that shieldstun was enough for me to buffer whatever, and I was mashing usmash while doing that.

Yep, like 2-3 vids have circulated through the Diddy Boards of a DACUS Diddy should be able to do, but was only done on accident by Diddies who just landed from a sideB (mine included). Of course, Japan beat us to the explanation.

At least we beat them to the "uploading accident videos" part.

Saltix · Feb 6, 2010

X-FACTOR said:
So at the moment, is it universal/character specific?

This?

Jupz said:
The only reason he would try to do it OOS is so he could buffer it during the shield drop frames.

And would it be easier to do it this way?

GreyClover · Feb 6, 2010

Woah that's cool. I'ma test this out with Link.

Toneh · Feb 6, 2010

i cant do it consistently yet, is it that hard or is the directions slightly off?
Im tryin during a spotdodge. I do spotdodge, press forward (not sure when to do ->, and do u hold forward or let go) then c-stick up twice (as fast as possible?)

Or is it SD, -> + c-stick up at the same time, then cstick up again

Omni · Feb 6, 2010

Hurry up and do all the hardwork so I can benefit from your trials and error.

Toneh · Feb 6, 2010

Omni said:
Hurry up and do all the hardwork so I can benefit from your trials and error.

lol, such a haterrr

xDD-Master · Feb 6, 2010

I have already done it out of an Air Dodge, Spot Dodge, Dash Attack, UpSmash.

I could buffer an Dash Attack (Stick Forward + C-Up) out of Shield, Dsmash and FSmash so I think for these this also works

I did not use some debug menu (too lazy xD), so yeah this can be really done by humans

I think it works out of everything that allows to buffer something

Edit: LOL got it down after Up-B Landing lag xD

Edit2: OMFG you can do it after a normal banana toss xD

radiX said:
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Or is it SD, -> + c-stick up at the same time, then cstick up again[/COLOR]

Its:

Random Move THEN Buffer Dash Attack (Just Stick Forward [one time] + C-Up before the animation ends... I think last 10 frames) THEN C-Up directely after the first C-Up I thin (I just mash)

I'm trying to do it after a glide toss but can only get the buffered DA :embarrass

Edit3: After Nair xD...

Edit4: After Fair Landing Lag @.@

iRJi · Feb 6, 2010

xDD-Master said:
I have already done it out of an Air Dodge, Spot Dodge, Dash Attack, UpSmash.

I could buffer an Dash Attack (Stick Forward + C-Up) out of Shield, Dsmash and FSmash so I think for these this also works

I did not use some debug menu (too lazy xD), so yeah this can be really done by humans

I think it works out of everything that allows to buffer something

Edit: LOL got it down after Up-B Landing lag xD

Edit2: OMFG you can do it after a normal banana toss xD

Its:

Random Move THEN Buffer Dash Attack (Just Stick Forward [one time] + C-Up before the animation ends... I think last 10 frames) THEN C-Up directely after the first C-Up I thin (I just mash)

I'm trying to do it after a glide toss but can only get the buffered DA :embarrass

Edit3: After Nair xD...

Edit4: After Fair Landing Lag @.@

Lol this still isn't that clear to me. xD

if you can, can you right like a step by step process?

Example:

1) Do this
2) Do that
3) Do this

You know, just to make it more clear =].

xDD-Master · Feb 6, 2010

1) Random Move... For example Fair, right before you land
2) You land while the animation hasnt end
3) You should now be in the Fair Landing Lag Animation
4) Here you press Analog Stick Forward + C-Up ONCE and at the same time/frame (That means you dont hold the analog stick)
5) Now you mash C-Up

If you dont do Step 5, you should do an DA as soon as possible (After the landing lag of the fair)

You could try this first to get it like 50% consistent.

After you got this just do Step 5.

At least it worked for me, hopefully I could help ^^

Player-1 · Feb 6, 2010

When do you do step 5? I know it says 1 frame after, but is that 1 frame after the dash attack is initiated or 1 frame after you do step 4? Can you just mash up on the c stick and get it to work?

Edit: "I could buffer an Dash Attack (Stick Forward + C-Up) out of Shield, Dsmash and FSmash so I think for these this also works ", wait are you saying you can do a Dsmash/Fsmash instead of the Usmash?

iRJi · Feb 6, 2010

That is much more clear, Thanks xD. Ill go test it right now.

xDD-Master · Feb 6, 2010

I always just mash C-Up when I'm at Step 4...

So the first C-Up is + Analog Forward. But from the second C-Up on I dont hold in any direction with the Analog Stick.

I dont know why I cant get it down constantly, I think I just dont mash C-Up quick enough to hit the right Frame, but I dont know, this is all I can help for now ^^

East · Feb 6, 2010

So has anyone figured out the pre-requisite for a character to be able to do this?

Nidtendofreak · Feb 6, 2010

*imagines Snake doing all of this, including the out of item tossing like Diddy Kong*

@_@

Oh dear. What have you done?

iRJi · Feb 6, 2010

nvm. Dont matter. This looks like its diddy specific.

Spelt · Feb 6, 2010

does the distant have huge differences between characters?

bigman40 · Feb 6, 2010

Works with all DACUS-able characters.

MajorMoses · Feb 6, 2010

Yay for Link!

iRJi · Feb 6, 2010

bigman40 said:
Works with all DACUS-able characters.

Yea, but the thing is diddy doesn't have a normal DACUS, which is why I am testing everything. lol.

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