RetroAntonio
Smash Apprentice
I just can't. If Melee had PSA hacks, or at least vertex hacks it'd be the same for Melee.
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Can you bear Brawl with NO hacks at ALL?
- Thread starter RetroAntonio
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Yeah, the Brawl soundtrack was awesome, despite being lacking in a certain area that you would find in one of my previous posts (not in this thread, obviously [it can be dug up pretty easily, since I've only recently become a member here.]). If anything, the worst part of Brawl was Sakurai being head developer or whatever.
Edit: I take that back. Sakurai being head developer was the SECOND worst part of Brawl. The TRUE worst part was the random tripping.
Edit: I take that back. Sakurai being head developer was the SECOND worst part of Brawl. The TRUE worst part was the random tripping.
IIIIRICK
Smash Journeyman
i cant stand brawl WITH hacks.
the stage hacks mess me up and even sometimes the music hacks annoy me because other people like different types of music then i do.
I would rather just turn them all off and just play the game.
the stage hacks mess me up and even sometimes the music hacks annoy me because other people like different types of music then i do.
I would rather just turn them all off and just play the game.
MetalMusicMan
Sleepwalk our lives away.
This.
There's nothing more annoying than playing a serious tournament set and then seeing a bunch of crazy colored backgrounds / character skins / stage modifications. It's so distracting. I realize that people think it's "cool" to mod their game files, but save that crap for friendlies or your own time. I refuse to play a tournament match with that crap on.
Yeah, you can just take the SD card out and the skins won't load... but they shouldn't have been loaded in the first place imo.
The only hacks that should ever be on are Infinite Replay, Name-Tags in Replays, and saved settings for 3 stocks, 8-min timer, team damage, etc.
SS3 Chaos
Smash Apprentice
Hacks make the world go round =D
iLSA
Smash Cadet
Although some hacks are quite amusing, I think that the game is already good enough without any at all. Some hacks are just insulting and make Smash less enjoyable to play, even when you win.
REL38
Smash Lord
I plan on getting artificial hacks like textures in the near future, but I can do well off without
SmashBrother2008
Smash Lord
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I'll tolerate it for a good friendly match or a party. Balanced Brawl is ideal for my serious play.
MidnightAsaph
Smash Lord
I can deal with it easy. I just wish the rules stayed the same when you turn it back on. < <
ChibiIceClimberz
Smash Ace
When a person is trying to say textures are generally distracting, crappy, and whatnot, doesn't that mean he or she thinks that people who make them are horrible? No, not all textures are bad. There are amazing textures out there, but not all of them are distracting nor good nor bad. It's called art. Brawl today's not being used just for competitive purposes, as well as general hacking purposes (although a lot of it's been made), people make art into those characters and stages making their own customized textures.
Character textures are even barely distracting. When you're playing on a match you usually ignore the characters' texture details, looks, and everything, because you focus on how you're playing on that certain character. You don't focus on Peach/Rosalina's face on a Brawl set don't you? You focus on how you're playing her.
Stage textures however, can be distracting. Most people like playing on dark texturized stages, as opposed to very bright ones, since people can be prone to it known as eye **** and it can be unplayable.
I don't see how music affects a person that much. Unless it's a very loud music, it could be hard to concentrate on a match. Many people these days love customized music on Brawl, and some people have said it helps them a little on a serious set. Some of the original Brawl music is getting really old to some people though, which is why they want their music on Brawl.
...But then again, if you don't like hacks, which is some of you guys' opinion, it's always a good idea to just load Brawl normally.
Character textures are even barely distracting. When you're playing on a match you usually ignore the characters' texture details, looks, and everything, because you focus on how you're playing on that certain character. You don't focus on Peach/Rosalina's face on a Brawl set don't you? You focus on how you're playing her.
Stage textures however, can be distracting. Most people like playing on dark texturized stages, as opposed to very bright ones, since people can be prone to it known as eye **** and it can be unplayable.
I don't see how music affects a person that much. Unless it's a very loud music, it could be hard to concentrate on a match. Many people these days love customized music on Brawl, and some people have said it helps them a little on a serious set. Some of the original Brawl music is getting really old to some people though, which is why they want their music on Brawl.
...But then again, if you don't like hacks, which is some of you guys' opinion, it's always a good idea to just load Brawl normally.
BluePSI
Smash Champion
yes, and I don't plan on using hacks....
(but the lack of mother 2/Earthbound music saddens me)
(but the lack of mother 2/Earthbound music saddens me)
#HBC | Dark Horse
Mach-Hommy x Murakami
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I'm not aloud to hack my wii, so yes I can.
libertyernie
Smash Ace
I'm really fine with anything. Even the playstyle isn't a problem; Toon Link is pretty much the same all the time. I use several textures, but they're all simple recolors.
KidSmash
Smash Journeyman
God I hate hacks
its like being ungrateful with the game
best if no hacks involved
its like being ungrateful with the game
best if no hacks involved
BlackLightning90
Smash Journeyman
Me can stand it...
leafbarrett
Smash Lord
Honestly, no, I can't. A lot of the changes that Brawl+ made are practically essential to my gameplay now, not to mention my love of custom music. I can handle not having custom stages, I guess. Custom movesets are a must, though.
Dark Sonic
Smash Hero
Make it yourself? It's honestly not hard nowadays.
Here's a very simplified tutorial for anyone interested (I've personally custom made every song in my brawl).
1. Get a music editing program that lets you make precise modifications (mostly cuts) in your music and allow you to test loops (the loops can technically be tested elsewhere, but having it right there while editing saves you a lot of hassle). Free programs like Goldwave or Audacity work fine for this.
2. Find a section in the music that is a repeat, preferably near the end of the song (just finding a section that sounds good when looped is fine too). Mark the positions of your loop and cut out anything that happens AFTER your loop (this is just to save space). Save your file as a .wav file. Jot down your loop points (based on location, not time). You'll need them later
3.Download Brawlbox (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=238861), go to file, new, and click Brstm Audio Stream and open your .wav file. Type in your loop points and check "loop." You can preview your loop here if you haven't done so already. Click okay when you're done and it will encode it for you. Then save the file as a brstm file (brawlbox does that too).
4. Rename the file to replace the song of your choice in brawl. Here's the brawl song list and the associated IDs (by stage order) http://www.mediafire.com/?zjjyj4hzmzg. Just rename your file to the ID of the song you want to replace.
5. Put the file in the directory private\wii\app\RSBE\pf\sound\strm on your SD card (I assume you've already set it up to run textures of course. This uses the same code)
Have fun making your own brawl songs. ^_^
Also, if you don't like textures or music and you end up playing on a hacked wii, just take the SD card out. The custom music, character textures, and stage textures all go away, as well as any PSA characters (just pick another character and then go back to your original character. They will be reloaded from the brawl disc). Infinite replay, tags in replays, default settings, no tripping, ect, ect will all still be on.
Apollo$
Smash Ace
Hax got old really fast IMO, unlimited replay was worth it tho.
Budget Player Cadet_
Smash Hero
USE STACK SMASH
THERE IS NO ONE STOPPING YOU
YOU HAVE THE POWER!
It's like taking an uncut diamond (brawl) and polishing and cutting it until it's shining beautifully with everything it can be (Brawl-). No disrespect intended, Sakurai just screwed the pooch. Oh wait...God I hate hacks
its like being ungrateful with the game
best if no hacks involved
How does something that is constantly developing get old really fast?
AMKalmar
Smash Ace
I also can't stand most of the textures people make. But some of the originals are pretty bad too. This is why I make my own. They depict team colours better than the originals. Nothing obnoxious, they just look better and more polished.
Along with those codes I also have No Random Tripping, pokemon infinite stamina, and a custom character select screen with sheik, zss, and the pokemon included. And a few frozen or modified stages (castle siege stays on the first part, frigate orpheon has a ledge on the right moving platform etc).
Anyways, I can play without hacks. Doesn't really bother me.
Big-Cat
Challenge accepted.
If anything, it's consumer response to the game and Nintendo should **** well consider it in the future.God I hate hacks
its like being ungrateful with the game
best if no hacks involved
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
...I still play Brawl (sometimes) and whenever I do, it's without hacks. Texture hacks especially, it makes everything so ****ed up and ugly.
AMKalmar
Smash Ace
Yeah... if you use ugly textures.
Apollo$
Smash Ace
I haven't really dabbled or had much or had interest past the minimal stuffHow does something that is constantly developing get old really fast?
dabridge
Smash Journeyman
I can't, it's horrible. When I go to someone else's house and I play vBrawl I go "omg wtf is this" and stop playing. I beg them to let me install Brawl+ on their wiis because vBrawl is just so insulting and the worst game ever.
Fortunately enough they know this, so most of the time I get to convert everyone to Brawl+
Some textures are amazing btw, I think you're refering to the time when people just did bad recolors. I can't stand regular FD and Battlefield anymore, I've played on them too much. That's the magic of textures, you can never get tired of the graphics because you can just change them when you want to (don't get me wrong, I love FD and Battlefield's layouts, the graphics themselves just get on my nerves when they're straight from vBrawl)
edit: before anyone says anything, OPINION. I'm allowed to have my own. Don't get mad if I say vBrawl sucks, if you like it, good for you, but you don't have to flame me for it.
Fortunately enough they know this, so most of the time I get to convert everyone to Brawl+
Some textures are amazing btw, I think you're refering to the time when people just did bad recolors. I can't stand regular FD and Battlefield anymore, I've played on them too much. That's the magic of textures, you can never get tired of the graphics because you can just change them when you want to
(don't get me wrong, I love FD and Battlefield's layouts, the graphics themselves just get on my nerves when they're straight from vBrawl)edit: before anyone says anything, OPINION. I'm allowed to have my own. Don't get mad if I say vBrawl sucks, if you like it, good for you, but you don't have to flame me for it.
Nano5896
Smash Rookie
I don't know if I can put custom music with a Mac, but I 'll just put custom music. I just can't stand the texture (especially on Marvel vs. Capcom 2)
Nik21
Smash Cadet
yes i can stand it because i have never used a hack.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
No tripping says hi.
You make it seem like being ungrateful with the game is a bad thing. Brawl HAS faults, why shouldn't they be corrected?God I hate hacks
its like being ungrateful with the game
best if no hacks involved
Department of Redundancy Department.
I can't stand normal Brawl, mainly because of how crap Jigglypuff is, how slow it is, tripping, changing settings, and unbalanced.
Someone should make a texture pack for Brawl where it has all the original textures in better quality or improved in some way.
DAS
Smash Ace
Its Smash Bros its good anyway so yeah.
MetalMusicMan
Sleepwalk our lives away.
"No tripping" is a gameplay mod, it's not the same as the other items that I listed.
Because it changes the gameplay itself, it really shouldn't be on in tournament. I mean, I think tripping is as lame as everyone else does, but if we apply no tripping codes then we're not playing Brawl at that point, we're playing a mod of it. Even if it's a "minor mod", you are still changing the game. That's not even the main issue, though.
The real issue though is that it's just too inconsistent at tournaments. Some people will have Wii's with no tripping, many others will not. This can drastically change the outcome of events, even though you might perceive removing tripping as "nothing but a good thing". It's best to be uniform and avoid such issues. "It's not fair, I only lost because I played on the Wii that didn't have codes on it!" etc. etc. etc. into infinity.
It also discourages new members from picking up the game. "Oh, you wanna play Brawl? Well there's no point in playing unless you hack your Wii!" That's a pretty steep gamble for someone new who doesn't understand the game yet and is already being told he needs to do something as unfamiliar as hack his console just to get started.
UltiMario
Out of Obscurity
I used to be able to bear vBrawl, but then one day I got my *** handed to me by people that had half an idea of what they were doing.
This game requires you to have a stupidly high amount of skill to separate you from the bad players, and still a worse player can shoot you down here and there.
This game requires you to have a stupidly high amount of skill to separate you from the bad players, and still a worse player can shoot you down here and there.
Yamato Hong
Smash Apprentice
Yep. ^-^ Some hacks good; some hacks bad.
It all depends on what kind of hacks are applied. There can be hacks where it can drastically alter the game's performance, which I find to be not fun.
It all depends on what kind of hacks are applied. There can be hacks where it can drastically alter the game's performance, which I find to be not fun.
Dai Tian
Smash Journeyman
No, not a chance. Never again, never again will I seriously play vBrawl. Hacking saved Brawl for me in many ways, and continues to do so to this day.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Tripping is an occurrence that rarely affects gameplay from what I've seen, so it shouldn't matter wether it is on a system or not as long as it is consistent within an individual tournament. The fact remains that there is no down side to removing it, and it should be done wherever possible apart from, like I have already said, in the case of inconsistency.
MrBlueSky
Smash Apprentice
I dont play Brawl without hacks. Too boring. All the techniques are just doing an up smash in a certain way. Brawl is so different from the other smash games so it also messes up my game to go from Brawl to Melee or Smash64, which I do quite often. I mostly just deal with game mods. As for content, I mess around with it but I dont host tournaments with texture/stage hacks on. And music? My music sucks, get over it. (has j-pop playing at YI)