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Pikachu discussion
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Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
What %s can you start Uair chaining Mario? 
I can never seem to get it right
I can never seem to get it right
i would say in the 40% region.What %s can you start Uair chaining Mario?
I can never seem to get it right
depends on where you are, you can do it in lower than 40 if you have enough space to fastfall uair and then continue, otherwise he falls faster than you.
just try go into training, do an usmash to 2 utilts (gets him to 38%) and you see it is easy to start chaining him from there.
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
awesome, thanks for quick answer
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
How EXACTLY do you go from jab to grab?
I've seen people (Isai) jab once and instantly grab after that first jab...is this possible all the time or was it a fluke? (with Isai i doubt it but...maybe...I've seen him miss a cancel once or twice so who knows...lol)
I've seen people (Isai) jab once and instantly grab after that first jab...is this possible all the time or was it a fluke? (with Isai i doubt it but...maybe...I've seen him miss a cancel once or twice so who knows...lol)
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
I'll put'er to training mode then
Thanks
Thanks
Kefit
Smash Journeyman
Basically, if you're chain jabbing then just mash Z and you'll end up grabbing at some point. This only happens for me when I make an input mistake, since Pika's jab kind of sucks and is about the last thing I would ever use in most situations.
In other words I can't help you do a clean single jab -> grab, cause I can't do it myself. the jab grab acts mostly as a way out of an accidental jab chain for me.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
Ahh that clears things up. Its just jab grabbing in the middle of a jab chain.
I also cant jab grab on command
I also cant jab grab on command
Kefit
Smash Journeyman
Here's a link to the Pika guide I wrote up a long time ago: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=222725
This is pretty old, and I'm a lot better at this game now, so this guide is kind of outdated. For instance, Pika's ftilt is an incredibly versatile and useful move, but I just dismissed it when writing that guide because I wasn't good enough at that time to use it properly.
Also the guide is unfinished and I have no plans to finish it any time soon cause seriously I don't know how to explain the free form and improv aspect of Pika's combos other than to say learn his moveset and figure out what to use when.
This is pretty old, and I'm a lot better at this game now, so this guide is kind of outdated. For instance, Pika's ftilt is an incredibly versatile and useful move, but I just dismissed it when writing that guide because I wasn't good enough at that time to use it properly.
Also the guide is unfinished and I have no plans to finish it any time soon cause seriously I don't know how to explain the free form and improv aspect of Pika's combos other than to say learn his moveset and figure out what to use when.
SuPeRbOoM
Smash Master
Press A and R at basically the same time to do jabgrab, remember A always comes first.
The Star King
Smash Hero
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The jab doesn't HAVE to hit something, it just makes it easier because of the hitlag.
asianaussie
Smash Hero
mmhm you can do it without being anywhere near the opponent
ballin4life
Smash Hero
I just press a and r at the same time (at least with mario)
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
I've seen many times where people jab once then grab automatically afterwards...without landing the jab :o
LlamaSensei
Smash Ace
One of my favorite things to do at low percents is Usmash to Utilt chain combo. It's also really hard to DI out because you can tilt the joystick to move left or right while you're doing the attack. I find this to be a great way to take people from %30 to %100. It can be especially offensive if you end this with a Uair or Bair.
usmash to utilt works, but not at 30 i do not think, and if your opponent is still stuck in your utilts at 100%, sorry to say, but he sucks.
moreover, pika's utilts are not that hard to DI out of, way easier than kirby's for example.
no doubt it is good though.
moreover, pika's utilts are not that hard to DI out of, way easier than kirby's for example.
no doubt it is good though.
LlamaSensei
Smash Ace
I can't say I play too many amazing people at Smash64, so maybe they do suck lol. I play on an actual N64 so I've never played online. Some characters are a heck of a lot easier to Utilt combo. Kirby and Jiggs tend to be some of the harder ones since I lose the combo at like 65% against them... Pikachu's edgeguarding is also amazing. Very few characters can recover against a well timed Fsmash.
Pikachu's edgeguarding is also amazing. Very few characters can recover against a well timed Fsmash.
LlamaSensei
Smash Ace
Yes, it depends on the situation for me. If someone is recovering from horizontally or above I like to gimp, but if the recovery is from below I like to Fsmash. But I'll have to expirement with more gimping.
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
From blow is actually when you dont want to imo.
Good players will DI this off the wall and just end up recovering.
Falling into them with Nair is much better imo
Good players will DI this off the wall and just end up recovering.
Falling into them with Nair is much better imo
LlamaSensei
Smash Ace
I've actually never thought about dropping a Nair... I'll have to try it. Thanks for the tips by the way. I don't play competitively so I don't get to see a lot of new stuff.
Sempiternity
Smash Lord
Real men play with characters who aren't broken.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
yeah like kirby
3mmanu3lrc
Smash Lord
If you could ledge cancel it, yes, otherwise, no.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
question.
how does one fair --> uair or fair --> nair, in the air
I have seen prince do it loads of times in the J version, but I cant seem to do it often in training mode. Maybe im just pika ********, but is there some sort of trick to the timing.
how does one fair --> uair or fair --> nair, in the air
I have seen prince do it loads of times in the J version, but I cant seem to do it often in training mode. Maybe im just pika ********, but is there some sort of trick to the timing.
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
Well chaining Fair --Nair shouldn't be hard
Uair to Nair is a matter of hitting your foe with the proper spot of the uair hit box so it pushes them in front of you...then just jump into them with the Nair?
Maybe i dont understand this question lol...seems to simple
Uair to Nair is a matter of hitting your foe with the proper spot of the uair hit box so it pushes them in front of you...then just jump into them with the Nair?
Maybe i dont understand this question lol...seems to simple
ballin4life
Smash Hero
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
surri
in the air. Do a fair on someone, and just as that finishes do an nair. still in the air, not touching the ground ever
it wont work for me ;_;
in the air. Do a fair on someone, and just as that finishes do an nair. still in the air, not touching the ground ever
it wont work for me ;_;
you have to move yourself while you are fairing to the right position to nair.
3mmanu3lrc
Smash Lord
Yes, but you have to Fair while going Up so that when you finish it you'll be able to hit your oponent at least in the lower part while descending.
The Star King
Smash Hero
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Mash A, like all the pros do
Gammelnorsk
Smash Ace
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mash a then press z during the mash a to grab them !!!
Lawrencelot
Smash Lord
For the jabgrab, alternatively (my way), you can keep mashing A and not touch R while after the first jab you keep the shield button pressed, so it tries to shieldgrab
3mmanu3lrc
Smash Lord
Pikachu/Mario/Luigi/Ness
A + Z(right after A) = Jab -> Grab
You don't even need to pres R or Z-A for a shield-grab.
HellxBound
Smash Cadet
I've realised that I rarely land usmashes, and i never implement dair>usmash combo starters into my pika game. Should I be using this commonly? Also, tips on successfully using usmash in general?