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The Top 5 Brawl [ US | CAN | MEX]

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What's The Point

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UPDATED 6/27/12:
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:metaknight: - (Last Updated 8/26/12)

Anti (+1)
Ally (-1)

:olimar: - (Last Updated 8/26/12)

Dabuz (+1)

New: Logic (3)

Removed: Anaur

:diddy: - (Last Updated 8/26/12)

Gnes (+1)
Player-1 (+1)
Lie (-2)

New: Zinoto (3)

:popo: - (Last Updated 8/28/12)

DeLux (-1)
Dojo (-1)

New: Nakat (3)

Removed: Smoom

:snake: - (Last Updated 8/24/12)

Ally (+1)
UltimateRazer (-1)
Fatal (+1)
Havok (-1)

:falco: - (Last Updated 8/30/12)

Keitaro (+1)
Pelca (-1)

:marth: - (Last Updated 9/1/12)

Raziek (+1)

New: MintyFlesh (5)

Removed: Zex

:pikachu2: - (Last Updated 4/1/12)

:wario: - (Last Updated 6/8/12)

:zerosuitsamus: - (Last Updated 8/30/12)

New: Y.b.M. (5)

Removed: DRN

:lucario: - (Last Updated 6/6/12)

:dedede: - (Last Updated 8/30/12)

Atomsk (+1)
Coney (-1)

:toonlink: - (Last Updated 8/24/12)

PJ (+2)
Jerm (-1)
Jash (-1)

:gw: - (Last Updated 6/7/12)

:wolf: - (Last Updated 8/24/12)

:fox: - (Last Updated 6/6/12)

:peach: - (Last Updated 8/26/12)

Kyon (-1)

New: Slayerz (3), LLOD (4)

Removed: Nicole, Mikey

:pit: - (Last Updated 9/3/12)

KiraFlax (-1)
Luckay (-1)

New: Ally (2)

Removed: PTZR

:rob: - (Last Updated 8/26/12)

Chibo (-2)
KiraFlax (-1)

Added: Dill (2)

Removed: t0mmy

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Chudat (+2)
Y.b.M (+1)
Falln (-1)
MikeKirby (+1)
RRR (-1)

:sonic: - (Last Updated 9/3/12)

New: Tesh (5)

Removed: Wedge

:dk2: - (Last Updated 4/1/12)

:ike: - (Last Updated 8/24/12)

Ryo (+1)
San (-1)

:sheik: - (Last Updated 6/6/12)

:yoshi2: - (Last Updated 8/24/12)

Hadesblade (-1)
Firefly (-1)

New: MX

Removed: Sinister Slush

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:pt: - (Last Updated 6/6/12)

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:lucas: - (Last Updated 6/6/12)

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:samus2: - (Last Updated 4/1/12)

:bowser2: - (Last Updated 6/6/12)

:falcon: - (Last Updated 8/24/12)

Lordhelmet (+2)

New: Acedude (5)

Removed: Reflex

:jigglypuff: - (Last Updated 6/26/12)

:link2: - (Last Updated 6/27/12)

:zelda: - (Last Updated 6/7/12)

:ganondorf: - (Last Updated 4/1/2012)

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What's The Point

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    Results:

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    Have better results than the players above you. I'm keeping track of everyone's wins and loses. When your overall record, dating back 7 months (Extensions for major tournaments), is better than somebody above you. Older results don't hold as much weight as recent ones. If a player gets a great win I will generally wait till their next tournament to see if they can replicate that level of results before making any changes.

    Consistency:
    The guy who does good at every tournament is better than the guy who does bad but beat a great player once. What matters most isn't the particular people you beat, the the average skill level of the people you beat and the people to you too. If a low level player randomly beats a top player, but for the next several months continues their normal performance of a low level player then the win on the top level player doesn't hold as much weight. A player's skill is based on the people they regularly beat, not the best person they've ever beaten. The same applies for loses. If a player randomly drops a set and gets 17th, but then gets top 3 for the next three months, that player just had a bad day or something. Random bad loses won't hurt a player's performance as long as they don't continue to lose.
  4. Meta Knight Ban

    Let's just say that, if you have any wins from pre-ban, you SHOULD bring them up, but be reminded that there is no set system on how to differentiate or deal with mk banned tourney results vs non-banned results. Do not ask. Do not try to discredit peoples results based on either results. As long as they abide by unity ruleset ( or close to it, as in 3 stocks and the traditional set of rules that make sense ), then all tournaments matter all the same.
  5. Regional Bias / Difficulty

    I've said this a few times; I don't like to differentiate / put bias toward one region or another. I don't care if Florida and Texas are better regions to place in in New Jersey. All I care about is player vs player. Thanks.
 

Mr.-0

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Put me down for PT, if theres noone else, than the spot shud go to the next person who claims to main PT. I "claim" to main PT, therefore make me second.
 

Supreme Dirt

King of the Railway
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Messages
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Ray Kalm is not the best Ganon. Vermanubis is.

I also wasn't aware that Vex plays Ganon.
 

Mr.-0

Smash Ace
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Messages
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lol, yeah, I don't play PT. Apparently, Reflex even is switching over to Wario.
 

~ Gheb ~

Life is just a party
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You need to fix the order for some characters. I love AC but he doesn't have the results for 3rd best Wolf yet ... Wolf looks really good other than that though.

:059:
 

milesg2g

Smash Champion
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Location
EA, Georgia
Just to let you know, KillerJawz is from the UK and Sago is a better samus than me.

Though I am honored
Ok thank you, I thought KillerJawz was US I'll switch.

You need to fix the order for some characters. I love AC but he doesn't have the results for 3rd best Wolf yet ... Wolf looks really good other than that though.

:059:
Thanks
 

san.

1/Sympathy = Divide By Zero
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Dr. Grandpa is a top 5 DK, probably ~4 at least currently, beating logic and Shadow recently.

Top 5 NA Ikes currently are
SAN
Ryo
Mr. Doom
theeboredone
Nysyarc (maybe Meneil but she never really told us how she does in tourneys much, she's up there though)
Limited idea of how Mr. Doom and theeboredone are doing lately, though.
 

Laem

Smash Champion
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Oh boy

anyway, i'll bite.

Snake:
does HRnut even play snake anymore...
eitherway, i think MVD should take his spot as 4th

(Gnes might be better than ADHD?)

rob should have mr. eric (at 4th or 5th, idk)

peach rankings atm look REALLY weird, but idk bout peaches

DK needs dr. G

(X > Espy?)

Ike needs Ryo

and vex for ganon seems weird

thats all for me

now i wish to lurk some flaming
 

Chuee

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Location
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(?)- Questionable (V)- Vote (~)- Will Change

MK

1. M2K
2. Lee
3. Nario
4. Anti
5. Tyrant

Snake

1. Ally
2. Ulitmate Razer
switch fatal and razer 3. Fatal
4. HRNUT replace with MVD
5. Bizkit


Diddy

1. ADHD maybe Gnes > ADHD
2. Gnes
3. Felix
4. Alpha Zealot
5. GDX

Falco

1. DEHF
2. Shugo
3. SK92
4. Kismet2
5. Arty

Wario

1. Malcolm McNulty
2. Hunger
3. BlueRouge
4. Krystedez Maybe above BR
5. Bassum

Marth

1. MikeHaze
2. Zex Not sure how he places.
3. Havok
4. Kadaj
5. Chaz

Ice Climbers

1. Lain Hylian should be 1
2. Vex
3. Swordgard Swordgard > Vex
4. Atomsk > Vex
5. Elev8

Olimar

1. Rich Brown
2. Dabuz
3. Logic
4. L_Cancel
5. Hilt

Pikachu

1. Esam
2. Anther
3. Kprime
4. PikaPika
5. Z

King De De De

1. Coney
2. Atomsk
3. CO18
4. LingLing
5. Vex

Mr. Game & Watch

1. Vinnie
2. UTD Zack
3. GIMR
4. Blackanese
5. Vex

Lucario

1. Junebugx
2. Trela
3. Zucco
4. Lee Martin
5. Fonz

Zero Suit Samus

1. Nick Riddle
2. Dazwa
3. PatG
4. Snakeeeee should be 1 or 2 spots higher.
5. Y.B.M.

Toon Link

1. Jash
2. MJG
3. KingToon
4. Jerm
5. Hyro

Kirby

1. ChuDat
2. Y.B.M.
3. Mog X
4. LingLing
5. Tripple R

Fox

1. TKD
2. Trevonte
3. NAKAT
4. ? Zeton
5. ?

R.O.B.

1. Stingers Tommy should be on here somewhere
2. Chibo
3. TV
4. Dull Razer
5. Stockfield

Pit

1. Koolaid Prince Ramen should be on here
2. Vex
3. Eska
4. KiraFlax
5. Starlight

Peach

1. LloD Probably shouldn't be this high, he hasn't done anything notable offline
2. Illmatic
3. Nicole
4. Praxis
5. KingBeef

Donkey Kong

1. Will
2. Cable
3. Ook
4. Cyphus Ripple maybe
5. Mar1

Luigi

1. BigLou
2. Boss
3. YoshQ
4. ?
5. ?

Wolf

1. Kain
2. Choice
3. AC Gull > AC
4. Seagull Man
5. Holmes

Sonic

1. Espy
2. X
3. SPEED
4. Kai
5. Meekspeedy

Ike

1. San
2. Mr. Doom Ryo should be 2
3. Meneil
4. Rykushet

5. ?

Sheik

1. Judo
2. Tutu
3. Billy
4. Ed should be higher
5. Neo

Ness

1. Shaky
2. FOW should go above Shaky

3. Vicegrip
4. Tyson
5. Milesg2g

Pokemon Trainer

1. TheReflexWonder
2. ? lol
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?

Yoshi

1. Poltergeist *Poltergust
2. Delta-Cod
3. Scatz Burntsockz somewhere
4. Hadesblade
5. Darkyosh

Lucas

1. PinkFresh
2. Mekos Galeon should be 2
3. NinjaLink
4. Atomsk only heard of him playing Lucas like once :/
5. FAE

Mario

1. Boss
2. KirinBlaze
3. Box7
4. Vato_Break
5. ?

Bowser

1. KingKong
2. Vex
3. ? Limit
4. ?
5. ?

Captain Falcon

1. Ally
2. Stroumbert
3. Lightside
4. Lordhelmet
5. Wedge

Samus

1. Xyro
2. NOID
3. Geno Samus
4. Sago
5. The Composer

Jigglypuff
1. Dapuffster
2. Wango
3. ? Mink, or w/e, the FL player
4. ?
5. ?

Link
1. Legan Kirin should be 1
2. Blubba_Pinecone
3. Jash
4. Deva
5. T2 Virus

Zelda
1. Dark Magician
2. Riot maybe over DM
3. NinjaLink
4. Vinnie
5. ? Ed should be on here somewhere

Ganondorf
1. Ray Kalm
2. Vermanubis > Kalm
3. Vex what
4. Bloodynite replace with Fonz
5. DLA should be over bloodynite


I'd like to get this thing down perfectly and have it a potential sticky for future tourney placings and results. Thank you ^_^



http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=101019
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#HBC | Red Ryu

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Why isn't Kirinblaze under Link?

LloD...has he gone to an offline tournament? Yeah online he is #1 Peach, Offline not sure since Illmatic almost is as high as he is on the AiB ladder and does stuff offline.

T-Block should be under PT.

Neo under Sheik? Shouldn't that go to someone else?

Dr. Grandpa is a top 5 DK, probably ~4 at least currently, beating logic and Shadow recently.

Top 5 NA Ikes currently are
SAN
Ryo
Mr. Doom
theeboredone
Nysyarc (maybe Meneil but she never really told us how she does in tourneys much, she's up there though)
Limited idea of how Mr. Doom and theeboredone are doing lately, though.
In double she places really well, in singles she does alright, I think Nysyarc is better placement wise, but idk.

I could get her results from M.A.S. tournaments and other regionals in the MW, would that help?
 

z00ted

The Assault of Laughter ﷼
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Llod may be better than me on wifi, but he doesn't place offline.

Jerm and Gnes both need to be higher.

Remove Praxis + LLod from Peach and add Razmakazi and Kyon.
 

ksizl4life

Smash Hero
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Location
NJ/NY
lol at u making a thread about this here. stick to that stuff on aib imo. not the best idea.
 

TP

Smash Master
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Vermanubis is the best Ganon by such a large amount it's not even funny.

He powershields EVERYTHING.

Atomsk is probably the 2nd best, certainly 3rd if not 2nd.

Bloodynite is not on the same level as DLA, who is roughly equal to Kalm.

Overall, it should be Verm, Atomsk, DLA/Kalm, DLA/Kalm, Bloodynite (and even then there is probably a better Ganon for the 5th spot).

FAE is better than Mekos at the very least. I've played both and it's not even close.

Hylian not listed for ICs is LOL.

Overall, terrible list and this has been done 1000 times before.
 

milesg2g

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wow @ lucas section

no galeon?

dr. grandpa is prolly a top 5 DK also
Seriously? Get Galeon on that Lucas list. ._. and put FAE higher imo.
Where should I put Galeon guys? out of the 5 spots?

wait why is tyrant 5th? he's been dominating socal forever

also Gnes over ADHD and choconaner over GDX
Where do you think Tyrant should be. I think he's easily top 3 too but he's had a few slip ups and Lee's been Top 5 at every MLG and outplaced Tyrant at WGF. Statistically as it stands he just seems better.

lol at u making a thread about this here. stick to that stuff on aib imo. not the best idea.
It shouldn't get out of hand if people don't want it to. I posted it here because I needed to get accurate results and I figured swf could support me on that. I'm aware some people will try to troll because their feelings may be hurt or opinions differ, but as stated in the OP it says the list isn't fact so don't get hurt.
 

z00ted

The Assault of Laughter ﷼
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Messages
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*sigh*

i sorta liked that best results of each character thread... but it was poorly executed.
 

Coney

Smash Master
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Messages
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Location
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Where should I put Galeon guys? out of the 5 spots?
i can't speak to either galeon or dr grandpa's skill as i've never played them, but their wins are significantly more impressive--mekos is primarily a wifi player, like llod. he beat boss last weekend, which is cool and all, but FAE has done much more. pink is first, FAE is probably second, and galeon is probably third. galeon COULD be higher if he were more active, from what i hear.

also yeah these things are always destined to failure. instead of actual discourse and debate over accomplishments everyone just goes ROFL THIS PERSON IS BETTER DEAL WITH IT and then NUH UH TATHS REGIONAL BIAS U QUEER and then ROLF OMFG U MAD?!~?!@?! I TROL U :torllface: OMFG XD !!!

idiots
 

milesg2g

Smash Champion
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Messages
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Location
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I was typing mad **** in the chat that you ignored lol.
I only thought maybe 7 of these at most were decent.
You messed up hella bad on low mid and below especially.

That's like the main part you contributed to lolol. But I mean I don't too much care, I don't know how Coney's went I just know that in this one whatever mutual agreement we can all come up with I'll change lol
 
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