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Mario Universe SWF Mario Kart Wii WiFi Ladder - I died, don't save me

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Z'zgashi

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Mario Kart WiFi Ladder

Hey guys, and welcome to the SWF Mario WiFi Ladder! This ladder is for 1v1 competition in Mario Kart Wii to prove who's the best racer and to hone your own skill! Some of you may be asking. "What is a WiFi Ladder?", maybe even "How does this thing work?" Well, here's some details on how the Ladder functions:

This WiFi Ladder is actually more like a pyramid than it is a ladder. The higher up you go, the less amount of people, but with that comes more competition and skill. Your goal is to fight your way to the top, or as high as you can. As you go up, you must challenge people to pass them, while at the same time, people below you try and challenge you, leaving you to not only climb, but defend your spot as well as you ascend. So basically, you have to try and climb higher in the rankings, hence the name, Ladder.

Ladder Rules:
  • You may not challenge people ranked below you.
  • You may only challenge people ranked up to 4 spots above you.
  • You may only challenge people on the same level as you, unless you are at the top of your level.
  • You may not play the same person more than once a week.
  • You may not challenge someone who already has a pending challenge.
  • You cannot challenge or be challenged while you have a pending challenge.
  • If you do not accept a challenge within 3 days, you forfeit the challenge.
  • After you accept a challenge, you must set a date for your match within 7 days of the initial challenge.
  • All challenges must be made and accepted in this thread.
  • If the challenger wins the match, the challenger moves ahead of the opponent.
  • If the challenger loses the match, all positions will remain the same.

Match Rules:
  • All matches are best of 5. (First to win 3 races)
  • All matches involving players from the top 3 levels are best of 7. (First to win 4 races)
  • All characters are allowed.
  • All karts are allowed.
  • All bikes are allowed.
  • YOU MAY ONLY SELECT RANDOM STAGE.
  • The higher ranked player hosts, unless decided otherwise.
  • If DC'd, the other player receives the win for that race.
  • If DC'd more than once, the other players receives the win for the match.
  • If a player does not show for his match, the other player receives the win for the match.
  • HACKING IS BANNED.
    Banned Techniques
  • Grumble Volcano Ultra Shortcut is Banned: This.
  • Mushroom Gorge Ultra Shortcut is Banned: This.
  • Wario's Gold Mine Ultra Shortcut is Banned: This.


LADDER
Level 4
(1) Dikastis Shok
Level 3
(2) SuperMetroid44 / (3) Gatlin
Level 2
(4) Z'zgashi / (5) brickbox / (6) Phantom Gamer
Level 1
(7) Staz

[COLLAPSE=Activity Log]- Dikastis Shok (2) beats SuperMetroid44 (1) 3-1.
- Dikastis Shok (1) moves up to Level 3, SuperMetroid44 (2) falls to Level 2.
- brickbox (7) is added to the Ladder. brickbox is added to Level 1.
- A new level is added. Dikastis Shok (1) moves up to Level 4, SuperMetroid44 (2) and Gatlin (3) move up to Level 3, Airgemini (4), Z'zgashi (5), and Phantom Gamer (6) move up to Level 2.
- Gatlin (4) beats Airgemini (3) by forfeit.
- Gatlin (3) moves up to Level 3, Airgemini (4) falls to Level 2.
- Airgemini (4) drops out of the Ladder.
- Z'zgashi (4), Phantom Gamer (5), and brickbox (6) move up in Rank.
- A level is erased. Dikastis Shok (1) moves down to Level 3, SuperMetroid44 (2) and Gatlin (3) move down to Level 2, Z'zgashi (4) and Phantom Gamer (5) move down to Level 1.
- brickbox (6) beats Phantom Gamer (5) 3-0
- Staz (7) is added to the Ladder. Staz is added to Level 1.
- A new level is added. Dikastis Shok (1) moves up to Level 4, SuperMetroid44 (2) and Gatlin (3) move up to Level 3, Z'zgashi (4), brickbox (5) and Phantom Gamer (6) move up to Level 2.[/COLLAPSE]

FRIEND CODE LIST:
1. Z'zgashi - 4856 3958 2388
2. SuperMetroid44 - 3952 8350 3527
3. Dikastis Shok - 2880 7434 3952
4. Gatlin - 1893 0867 5028
5. Phantom Gamer - 2020 0098 5755
6. brickbox - 2879 2775 9429
7. Staz - 4856 3958 2388
8.
(There's no limit to the number of Sign Ups, so even if I'm out of numbers, you can still join!)

SIGN UP LIKE THIS:
SWF Name - Friend Code

IMPORTANT:
If you plan on going on vacation, you are sick, or something else of the sort, please let me no as soon as you can, preferably beforehand if possible! This way, you will not lose your hard earned spot in your absence!
 

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First 6 Sign Ups get a random seed in the top 3 levels! After that, you just get added on to the bottom as usual, so sign up fast!! :D
 

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I'm slightly worried about the item selection though with only two racing. Also, if you get challenged and don't accept you automatically go down? What if you just don't feel like challenging anyone at the time.
 

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Whoops, I meant to make it Strategic items. And if you don't wanna challenge anyone, you don't have to.'If you get challenged, you have to accept, but you only have to set a date within the week. Imma reword that all to end more confusion, thanks for pointing that out.
 

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We just need to wait for at least 2 more people to join, THEN you can (unless you get ranked #1 lol)
 

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Whoops, I meant to make it Strategic items. And if you don't wanna challenge anyone, you don't have to.'If you get challenged, you have to accept, but you only have to set a date within the week. Imma reword that all to end more confusion, thanks for pointing that out.
There are no strategic items online. As in you can't change the settings.
 

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^

You simply race. What ever you get, is that you get. Unless you want to play without items. You do that by simply holding the item you first get through the whole race. :?
 

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You simply race. What ever you get, is that you get. Unless you want to play without items. You do that by simply holding the item you first get through the whole race. :?
But then, besides player errors, Funky wins. With his only competition being Daisy. With her only competition being... no one.
 

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That's why we're simply going to play with items. =o
 

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That's why we're simply going to play with items. =o
Item | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12
-------------------+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----
Fake Item Box | 17 | 15 | 3 | | | | | | | | |
Banana | 37 | 21 | 10 | 6 | 3 | | | | | | |
Triple Banana | 12 | 11 | 8 | | | | | | | | |
Green Shell | 26 | 13 | 14 | 4 | 6 | | | | | | |
Triple Green Shell | | 4 | 11 | 7 | 9 | | | | | | |
Red Shell | 7 | 25 | 16 | 11 | 6 | 10 | 5 | 4 | | | |
Triple Red Shell | | | | 6 | 9 | 28 | 15 | 18 | | | |
Mushroom | | 9 | 20 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 5 | x | 2 | | |
Triple Mushroom | | | 3 | 28 | 23 | 17 | 20 | 25 | 40 | 33 | 12 | 17
Blooper | | | | | 3 | 3 | 15 | 4 | 4 | | |
Blue Shell | | | | | | 7 | 5 | x | 1 | | |
Bob-omb | | 4 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 10 | | | | | |
Lightning Cloud | | | 6 | 7 | 11 | 3 | | | | | |
POW Block | | | | | 3 | x | 10 | 7 | 4 | | |
Mega Mushroom | | | | 4 | x | x | 10 | 4 | 3 | | |
Golden Mushroom | | | | | | 3 | 15 | 11 | 27 | 27 | 31 | 29
Bullet Bill | | | | | | | | 11 | 2 | 10 | 30 | 20
Lightning Bolt | | | | | | | | | | 1 | 2 | 17
Star | | | | | | | | 18 | 16 | 29 | 25 | 17
-------------------+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----
Error Margin | .2 | .9 | 1.3| 1.9| 2.9| 3.5| 5.0| 3.6| 1.1| 1.0| 1.1| .9


Too lazy to finish spacing this out. The items you receive in first/second just doesn't make it fair unless it's Funky VS. Funky or Funky VS. Daisy. 2nd place has a 25% to get a red shell, but first place has an 88% chance to get an item that can block it.

And if second place can get items like Triple Shells/Shrooms, clouds, etc. then it just doesn't seem fun. But to each their own. I won't be participating.

Good luck to everyone who does.
 

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Then, ban certain characters?
There are ALWAYS tiers though. Then everyone would be using Peach, Baby Peach, and Baby Daisy. Once you ban the best characters, their will always be the new best. It's why banning Meta Knight would be stupid in Brawl. The point is, 1v1 doesn't work in Mario Kart Wii.
 

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So you can only turn off items? You cant limit them like in vs. mode?
 

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Meh, we'll have to make do. Guess normal items is the only option :/
 

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Not exactly, broken items mean anything can happen. But even in normal play, logically Funky should always be winning, but does he?

Its just like Sariku's Meta Knight comparison. Normally, MK should always be winning as he has no disadvantages and outplays everyone in every category, but does he ALWAYS win? Nope. Even though the character can make a difference, skill is a much greater factor than the character is.
 

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Tiers in MKW can only be based off stat bonuses...
Heres one that i found on MKW community...

It is by class, not ranking (i think)

Top Tier:
Baby Daisy
Baby Luigi
Daisy
Funky Kong

High Tier:
Baby Peach
Rosalina
Toadette
Mario
Donkey Kong
Peach


Mid Tier:
Bowser
Luigi
Dry Bowser
King Boo
Diddy Kong

Low Tier:
Wario
Bowser Jr.
yoshi
Birdo
Waluigi
Dry Bones

Bottom Tier:
Koopa Troopa
Baby Mario
toad

Though as stated as above, anyone can win...
 

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You forgot about Mii.

I think Light Mii is High Tier on your list. So much love.<3
They didn't put mii on there....

That's a pretty old tier list.
Yes i know, but it can't really change because its not like brawl... They are based strictly on stat bonuses

I'd like a source for that tier you posted.
http://www.mariokartwii.com/f7/official-tier-list-characters-mariokartwii-com-33413.html
 

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Many problems with that. The newer list is better.

Besides, yoshi isn't bottom.
 

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So, now that we have more people, could we challenge anyone? =o
 

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I'll make the challenges.

Shok VS. Z'zgashi.
Airgemini VS. Z'zgashi.
KingHippo VS. Z'zgashi.
BSP VS. Z'zgashi.
Brickbox VS. Z'zgashi.
SuperMetroid44 VS. Z'zgashi.
Rabbi Panda VS. Z'zgashi.
Gatlin VS. Z'zgashi.
Ulises3000 VS. Z'zgashi.

And Z'z won't win even half of those matches because they play better characters than him.
 

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Here's another one, probably better....
No. Funk isn't top so it's wrong. Sure, all funky has really is speed, but in a game thats all about speed, it doesn't ****ing matter unless you HAVE speed. Accel helps, but with the little standing boost where you hold gas and drift, characters like funky can boost right back to top speed holding their middle finger to the world. There is no rubber band effect to change this like in the other Mario karts, so speed is the most important stat.

And with that, this is the best list IMO:
Funky Tier
1. Funky Kong

Top Tier
2. Daisy
3. Baby Luigi
4. Baby Daisy
5. Rosalina
6. Heavy Mii

High Tier
7. Wario
8. Dry Bowser
9. Peach
10. Waluigi
11. Bowser
12. Baby Peach

Mid Tier
13. Medium Mii
14. Dry Bones
15. Koopa Troopa
16. Small Mii
17. Diddy Kong
18. Birdo

Low Tier
19. Donkey Kong
20. Toad
21. Luigi
22. King Boo
23. Toadette

Bottom Tier
24. Bowser Jr.
25. Mario
26. Yoshi
27. Baby Mario
 

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I'll make the challenges.

Shok VS. Z'zgashi.
Airgemini VS. Z'zgashi.
KingHippo VS. Z'zgashi.
BSP VS. Z'zgashi.
Brickbox VS. Z'zgashi.
SuperMetroid44 VS. Z'zgashi.
Rabbi Panda VS. Z'zgashi.
Gatlin VS. Z'zgashi.
Ulises3000 VS. Z'zgashi.

And Z'z won't win even half of those matches because they play better characters than him.
Ummm, I'm 1-0 in those match ups that I've played 1v1 so far. I've only ever played panda 1v1 and I've beat him 2-3 times and haven't lost yet.

As for the rest, I'll play you all 1v1, I'm better when there's less item havoc going on.
 

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I have to agree with Sariku. Since I use baby weegee with mini beast...and automatic. I just don't have a chance of beating anyone else!
 
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