Important tactic against Olimar in general.

Seagull Joe · Dec 28, 2011

If

throws Pikmin at you and you shield, then they don't latch onto you. I'm finding that more and more people did not know this and felt like helping people gain knowledge since

is a pretty dumb character.

If they don't latch and he isn't close enough to dash grab then you can actually limit him by killing off all the blues and purples. This way he can't kill you with anything except Usmash cause only blues and purples kill you via throws.

Elyssa Xey Hexen · Dec 28, 2011

Killing pikmin out of shield as they fly by? lol

John12346 · Dec 28, 2011

Don't the Pikmin still latch onto you if your shield is small though?

Plus, Olimar throws those Pikmin at a pretty fast rate... it'll be hard to find openings to put your shield down to protect it from flat out breaking.

Seagull Joe · Dec 28, 2011

Xeylode said:
Killing pikmin out of shield as they fly by? lol

No. As they go past your shield. You can kill them as they walk back. Then

s will probably pluck more and you can control the color scheme/order.

John12346 said:
Don't the Pikmin still latch onto you if your shield is small though?

Plus, Olimar throws those Pikmin at a pretty fast rate... it'll be hard to find openings to put your shield down to protect it from flat out breaking.

Depends on your character and unsure if they can shield stab, but your shield shouldn't get that low in the first place if you're just trying to avoid Pikmin and both are at long range. No

is gonna side b at close range unless they know their next one is purple.

B.A.M. · Dec 28, 2011

While you're at it Seagull you should note that a ton of Nairs go through Oli's usmash, including Sonic and Fox. I know Sonic's even goes through yellows.

-Cross- · Dec 28, 2011

Can you beat Oli's fsmash with the same moves that beat his usmash?

NickRiddle · Dec 28, 2011

If you hit Olimar's Pikmin, you beat most of his moves, and can hit him if your hitbox is good.
Also, if Olimar grabs you, you can hit him for a few frames before you actually get grabbed.

SaveMeJebus · Dec 29, 2011

Holding up while on the ledge guarantees that you won't get stage spiked by olimar's up b

LanceStern · Dec 29, 2011

I'm testing that out jebus

popsofctown · Dec 29, 2011

I'm confused. You can't shield unless you are standing on something. But you're playing against Olimar. So why would attempt standing on the ground.

Head esplode.

Judo777 · Dec 30, 2011

This can be summed up in a few points.
1. Olimars pikmin toss won't latch on if you shield.
2. Olimar's grab has no grab armor meaning he is vulnerable to attacks in the process of grabbing.
3. Olimar's pikmin have hurtboxes and their hitboxes disappear once they have been hit (uair has multiple hitboxes so you need to hit the pikmin once for every hitbox to beat uair, which almost no one in the cast can do). Essentially treat olimars pikmin based attacks as specials and follow the standard rules for clanking and you'll be fine.
4. If you hold up while on the ledge while Olimar up B's you don't risk getting stage spiked.
5. You can begin mashing out of grabs the moment you are grabbed by a pikmin even on their return to Olimar (what this means is you can mash out of grabs sometimes before Olimar can even throw you).
6. Olimar's pikmin can be attacked anytime they are not in his line (with the exception of when he grabs for some dumb reason).

Zekeishere · Dec 31, 2011

DDD's Nair beats U smash sometimes.

LanceStern · Dec 31, 2011

looks like holding up prevents getting stage spiked from marth too...

Yes!

Volt_Storm_7 · Jan 1, 2012

I Know this, but I forget to do it.

SFA Smiley · Jan 1, 2012

popsofctown said:
I'm confused. You can't shield unless you are standing on something. But you're playing against Olimar. So why would attempt standing on the ground.

Head esplode.

Because Olimar doesn't approach so if you're out of his range you don't have much to worry about.

Dnyce · Jan 5, 2012

Shielding is a counter to a projectile.... Who knew?

hichez50 · Jan 7, 2012

lol. So would canceling your dashes with shield be an O.K thing to do. Atleast from far away.

Mike2 · Jan 11, 2012

stolen from p3 i think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyophYBP_w4

Flayl · Jan 11, 2012

Thanks for updating.

edit: wrong tab lol

Orion* · Jan 14, 2012

Seagull Man said:
No. As they go past your shield. You can kill them as they walk back. Then s will probably pluck more and you can control the color scheme/order.

nietono just gets rid of the colors he doesn't want while you waste time and just get more blues/purples....

nietono will also just wait and hit you for trying to hit your pikmin off, so committing is bad.

guy is broken. LOOOL

#HBC | ZoZo · Jan 15, 2012

Larry did really well controlling Nietono's colors though. He basically made it so that Nietono never had more than 1 purple, safe for a few short-lived exceptions.

Orion* · Jan 16, 2012

Brosuke said:
Larry did really well controlling Nietono's colors though. He basically made it so that Nietono never had more than 1 purple, safe for a few short-lived exceptions.

he's also supposed to be the best player in the US vs olimar and he got 2-0ed... go figure xD

~ Gheb ~ · Jan 16, 2012

To be fair though, I think Larry could've won and mainly lost to bad decision making when recovering onstage.

Edit: Man I really feel like *** posting like this 0_0

Orion* · Jan 16, 2012

i definitely agree with you, i was right behind him the whole match and even after we agreed that he could have played better.

but there's nothing you can do, no johns lol.

#HBC | ZoZo · Jan 16, 2012

Talked with Suinoko and he told me Larry is going to Japan, then afterwards Larry confirmed that so he better practice this time

Kewkky · Jan 22, 2012

SmileyFace =) said:
Because Olimar doesn't approach so if you're out of his range you don't have much to worry about.

And then Olimar feints approaches to bait you out of your shrinking shield, and varies his sideB trajectory's height smartly to catch you as you roll back/jump to avoid pikmin. If you attack them, you're pretty much putting yourself in a position for Olimar to latch some pikmin onto you.

I know about shielding them, and it's a meh strategy at best. It doesn't help you get closer to Olimar if he's in the lead, and either way, you'll eventually be baited into getting Pikmin latched on you if you've got the advantage. There's no failsafe, you just gotta be really smart when playing a good Olimar and hope that you can outsmart them with unorthodox yet effective mixups.

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