Doshin the Giant Support Thread.

Get Low · Jun 25, 2012

I don't really know anything about Doshin the Giant, and I've never played the game (as it has never been released in North America), but I think he would be an interesting addition to Smash 4. Anyone else think so?

Yomi's Biggest Fan · Jun 27, 2012

The problem with him is that if he were to be resized, he wouldn't really be called a giant.

Opossum · Jun 27, 2012

I'm thinking Assist Trophy at best to be honest...

Get Low · Jun 27, 2012

R.O.B. said:
The problem with him is that if he were to be resized, he wouldn't really be called a giant.

He could be like, Bowser's height, but skinnier.

Yomi's Biggest Fan · Jun 27, 2012

Get Low said:
He could be like, Bowser's height, but skinnier.

I see. Unless there's a Final Smash where he grows into his actually size to make this more fun. I did remember seeing him and his evil side, Joshin, in Melee as trophies.

Get Low · Jun 27, 2012

R.O.B. said:
I see. Unless there's a Final Smash where he grows into his actually size to make this more fun. I did remember seeing him and his evil side, Joshin, in Melee as trophies.

That's the only reason why I know about them in the first place, haha.
I looked up the game on Wikipedia, and it said the game had a fair amount of success in Japan and Europe.
Why they never released it in North America is beyond me.

Yomi's Biggest Fan · Jun 27, 2012

Get Low said:
That's the only reason why I know about them in the first place, haha.
I looked up the game on Wikipedia, and it said the game had a fair amount of success in Japan and Europe.
Why they never released it in North America is beyond me.

He can piss out flames on trees. :troll:

Guybrush20X6 · Apr 21, 2013

Oh, this tread has been dead for a while. WELL NO LONGER!

I think Doshin would be a cool stage with the Big Guy as part of it. If he's attacked too much he goes Devil Doshin on your sorry hide.

8-peacock-8 · Apr 21, 2013

Way make him a giant still. He could be scaled down but still be taller then the other characters.

EDIT: I just realized this thread was bumped also. lol

BridgesWithTurtles · Apr 21, 2013

Doshin the Giant might not be playable material, but he'd make an excellent Assist Trophy. In fact, I'd say that Doshin and the Elite Beat Agents were the characters I was most surprised to find weren't ATs in Brawl. Doshin's entire purpose (unless he's Jashin) is to bring happiness to other people.

If he doesn't appear himself, I'd at least like some music from his game to show up. It's got a great soundtrack. Slap this on a Pikmin stage and you're set.

8-peacock-8 · Apr 21, 2013

Doshin himself could be a stage since he is a giant and all. I actually think he'd be better for that.

Vintage Creep · Apr 21, 2013

The game sucked hard.
Imho, he doesn't deserve a spot. Maybe as an assist.

Chauzu · Jun 16, 2013

Well, it would certainly be the wtf char of this gen.

Which means it could happen.

Deleted member · Jun 16, 2013

I'd actually like to see Doshin, if he also has Jashin as a form.

With Doshin being the "kill them with kindness" fighter (maybe even have a "hug of death" move

) and Jashin just being a "burn 'em to the ground" fighter.

Size doesn't seem to be an issue; doesn't Doshin start off small, then grow as he gathers Love (or Hate if he's Jashin)? Final Smash could be that he gathers Love (or Hate), grows gigantic, and does an ultimate attack of kindness (or hatred).

BluePikmin11 · May 1, 2014

Never came interested in Doshin until I considered him in the uniqueness list and looked at his game.
Damn, he would have a very interesting moveset in my eyes, he could be able to place and protect villages in the battle, the longer the villages remain, the better Doshin becomes and the bigger his size. This is something I never seen as a playstyle, I could see this being tons of fun.
I might take over this thread when I get the time to make a moveset.

Yomi's Biggest Fan · May 1, 2014

R.O.B. said:
He can piss out flames on trees.

This is why I don't he should join Smash. And yes, he DID manage to do this in the DtG sequel.

8-peacock-8 · May 1, 2014

R.O.B. said:
This is why I don't he should join Smash. And yes, he DID manage to do this in the DtG sequel.

No. That's why he SHOULD be in Smash. :troll:

ryuu seika · May 1, 2014

I like the idea of Doshin as a stage, controlling the level of the ground on which the characters fight through his magic powers. As a fighter, I'd have to see a good moveset idea before I see any potential in him but if something's possible then I'm all for the guy.

EDIT: Potential gimmick: The more time the giant spends not fighting, the larger Doshin becomes, allowing him to have more range and do more damage/knockback, as well as jump higher. Any indirect forms of combat he might have would not affect this.
And the flipside: As he spends time either hitting or being hit, Doshin shrinks, eventually returning to his starting size.
At minimum size, he has the potential to switch forms. The more time the giant spends hitting others or being hit himself, the bigger Jashin becomes, allowing him to have more range and do more damage/knockback, as well as jump higher. Any indirect forms of combat he might have would not affect this.
As he spends time away from the fray, however, Jashin shrinks and he too will eventually return to his starting state, where he can potentially become Doshin again.

Under this system, Doshin and Jashin would fight quite similarly, though Doshin would be more stage control focused and Jashin would be more combat orientated, with his landscape morphing replaced by fireballs.

Wonks · May 1, 2014

Yes! I always thought he'd make an interesting fighter!
He could grow larger (and similar to Lucario, grow stronger) the more the battle progresses and the more damage he takes. He could have his Devil Doshin persona for his Final Smash.

ryuu seika · May 1, 2014

Wonks said:
Yes! I always thought he'd make an interesting fighter!
He could grow larger (and similar to Lucario, grow stronger) the more the battle progresses and the more damage he takes. He could have his Devil Doshin persona for his Final Smash.

A rage feature similar to Lucario's aura would not be in character. The giant has a meter that can grow with love or hate but not both. This should be represented with a slider from massive Doshin to massive Jashin, with his starting point slap bang in the middle at tiny midform. How it slides is up for interpretation but my suggestion is detailed above.

Get Low · May 2, 2014

Never even knew that this thread got bumped. Thanks for the support. I'm going to make a celebratory freak out post if he actually makes it.

Koopaul · May 2, 2014

It would be cool if he showed up in the game in some shape or form. He had a trophy in Melee, then Brawl came out and he was nowhere to be seen. Not even a trophy?

YoshiandToad · May 2, 2014

Koopaul said:
It would be cool if he showed up in the game in some shape or form. He had a trophy in Melee, then Brawl came out and he was nowhere to be seen. Not even a trophy?

To be fair even Roy didn't get a trophy in Brawl and he was a playable character in Melee. Very few custom models were made for the trophy collection. Luckily this has been addressed this time round so I'm confident he'll get at least a trophy to his name.

Doshin deserves SOMETHING in my opinion, I liked him enough to include him on my winning Roster for the 'Roster Evolution' game hosted by BigAxle(many even thought he was an excellent unusual choice) so maybe he's liked by more than the support thread would indicate.
Either playable, AT, stage, stage hazard or even stage background piece I'd be down with seeing ANYTHING Doshin/Jashin related.

8-peacock-8 · May 2, 2014

Doshin as a stage would be like the Shadow of The Colossus stage PSASBR never got! :troll:

~~BecauseTeamICOareBunchofsnobs~~

Cobalsh · May 2, 2014

8-peacock-8 said:
Doshin as a stage would be like the Shadow of The Colossus stage PSASBR never got! ~~BecauseTeamICOareBunchofsnobs~~

With Wario as the Wanderer. :troll:

Speculator · May 2, 2014

Barudo Island would make an amazingly unique stage. Imagine Doshin wandering in from the background and changing the terrain of the fighting area. He could even turn into Jashin if the players attack him too much and start throwing fireballs and stomping down mountains.

Also, the Doshin the Giant main theme is super spooky. I'm surprised it wasn't a music option for Luigi's Mansion in Brawl.

Buci01 · May 9, 2014

Doshin the Giant as a concept was a really fascinating game and I like the character. A bit like Black&White. But the actual game was terrible on so many levels (I own it). Anyway, I would love him to be either an AT, a stage or even a boss. playable? Maybe if his gimmick would be being huge, like the giant robots from Tatsunoko vs Capcom

Snagrio · May 9, 2014

If the giant does end up playable, it'll be weird seeing him next to the Yellow Devil...

Speculator · May 9, 2014

Buci01 said:
Doshin the Giant as a concept was a really fascinating game and I like the character. A bit like Black&White. But the actual game was terrible on so many levels (I own it).

It's a bizzare game for sure. It doesn't feel like it has any of that typical Nintendo polish. I wouldn't mind seeing them use the IP again though, as an eShop game or something. The Gamecube game has an odd charm in a clunky, unfinished kind of way so I think it definitely deserves someone to have a proper go at making a good Doshin game.

Buci01 · May 11, 2014

Speculator said:
It's a bizzare game for sure. It doesn't feel like it has any of that typical Nintendo polish. I wouldn't mind seeing them use the IP again though, as an eShop game or something. The Gamecube game has an odd charm in a clunky, unfinished kind of way so I think it definitely deserves someone to have a proper go at making a good Doshin game.

yeah it was really weird. I started the game expecting nothing really (bought it for 8 euro used at gamestop). While I was playing it, all I was thinking was how awesome Doshin is especially when he turns to his evil side, but how slow and clunky the game is, how annoying the female narrator is, how confusing the actual goal of the game is, but baring that, I played it for hours straight... It has definitely a unique charm. But I don't see it as an eshop game, it has too much of a potential being a full fledged retail game.

leprechaunlink727 · May 11, 2014

Would make a great assist trophy, but not so much a playable character.

TheSeanMan · Jul 18, 2014

Really wish this thread were more active. As a man who has played Doshin the Giant, I can imagine a moveset. What if the more damage he can rack up, he gains skull's. Each skull he gains makes him grow bigger. Of course, there would be a limit.

His final smash would be him transforming into Jashin.

smashkirby · Jul 18, 2014

I support Doshin /Jashin!

TheSeanMan · Jul 18, 2014

smashkirby said:
I support Doshin /Jashin!

Preach it, brotha!

Oracle_Summon · Jul 18, 2014

Hey guys, I was wondering how Doshin the Giant's moveset would be classified according to this list. (hybrid classes are possible):

Zoner - Character whose strength lies in forcing their opponent to stay in a certain area. Ex:

Ranger - Character whose strength lies in their ranged attacks to force opponents to keep their distance. Ex:

Speedster - Character whose strength lies in their speed and ability to overwhelm their opponents with relentless attacks. Ex:

Trickster - Character whose strength lies in a quirky moveset that is hard to predict and can alter the battle field. Ex:

Bruiser - Character whose strength lies in devastating attacks to quickly finish off opponents. Ex:

Resistor - Character whose strength lies in super armor that allows them to tank hits to strike down opponents. Ex:

Puppeteer - Character whose strength lies in overwhelming opponents with relentless attacks stopping opponents from striking back. Strength in numbers. Ex:

Juggler - Character whose strength lies in being able to string combos together to finish off opponents. Ex:

TheSeanMan · Jul 19, 2014

I would say Trickster

Oracle_Summon · Jul 19, 2014

TheSeanMan said:
I would say Trickster

Would he have any Ranger type qualities, since he has Long hands?

P.S. Welcome to Smash Boards! :D

StaffofSmashing · Jul 19, 2014

Resister. He is from a ***ing God Simulator game.

Oracle_Summon · Jul 19, 2014

StaffofSmashing said:
Resister. He is from a ***ing God Simulator game.

Would his greatest opponents be those of the Puppeteer variety or would he have attacks that cover enough distance to deal with them?

StaffofSmashing · Jul 19, 2014

Oracle_Summon said:
Would his greatest opponents be those of the Puppeteer variety or would he have attacks that cover enough distance to deal with them?

Well, he'd certainly have a large hotbox, causing him to be attacked easily beaten on from all directions.

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