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This thread is for everyone to use to discuss Mach Rider and Smash 4. Please keep things respectful and follow the rules of the site.
After destroying the Quadrunners in 2112, a man was looking for a new challenge. He looked all over the world for people to challenge him and his ability, but no one was willing to face him. After searching for years, he finally got an invitation sent to him stating this:
"You have been awaiting the fight of your life. Come and join other Smashers and fight with the mightiest of warriors."
He was immediately interested. This was his chance to show what he was made off and he was prepared to risk his own life for this event. He was..."
Mach Rider!!!
Mach Rider is a character who stars in the 1985 game of the same name. While the game has not received a sequel, the game was a major influence to F-zero as both are in a futuristic settings with incredibly high speed and contain aggressive drivers. As a matter of fact, Mach Rider even shares some similarity with Captain Falcon. In a way, F-zero is considered Mach Rider's spiritual predecessor.
He is also an often overlooked candidate for Super Smash Bros. 4, as a matter of fact, probably one of the most underrated characters. Mach Rider is a very plausible contender that is worthy of a spot and certainly worth consideration.
Does Mach Rider Meet All Four Criterias?
Let's take a look at Sakurai's four criteria's. The most important thing that Sakurai considers when adding characters are these criteria as every character from Brawl meets them:
1.: A character must make the character want to play the game
95% of people will say he obviously fail this criteria due to not being a popular request, but if Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers, Mr. Game & Watch and R.O.B. taught us anything, it's that a character can meet this criteria and not be a popular request. What Sakurai also considers is if the character is likable and as such, can be made into popular characters that people will never want to let go. Mach Rider has the potential to be the next Captain Falcon or Ice Climbers.
2.: A character must be unique
People will say this destroys Mach Rider's chance of being in Smash as well due to limited move set potentials, but by that logic, Captain Falcon wouldn't be eligible for Smash as well. Look at Captain Falcon, he was completely unique when he got into Smash. The thing about Captain Falcon that got him in was not that he had a bunch of fights to deal with, but that he was capable of fighting and his style reflects that of the fast pace and intense nature of his games. Mach Rider would also be able to reflect his own game as well and he techincally has more move set potentials than Captain Falcon due to having a machine gun.
3.: A character must fit into the game
Detractors will argue that because he was in a bike that he can't be in. That argument is fallicious because Captain Falcon was almost always only seen in his Blue Falcon and never seen fighting, yet behold, he was in all of the Smash games.
4.: A character must contribute to the game balance
Given that he fits the uniquenss and fitting criteria, I'd say he fits this one as well.
Why believe he could show up?
Several reasons.
The first reason is because he's the spiritual predecessor to F-zero. Given that F-zero was an important series to Nintendo, this gives Mach Rider some source of importance because it was the inspiration for the series and without it, we wouldn't have F-zero, or at least not the same way. At any rate, considering that it's more important to Nintendo than Ice Climbers was to Nintendo, it's certainly a plus.
Interesting as well is that he was Sakurai's favorite character for Super Smash Bros. 2. Unlike with Balloon Figher, Urban Champion, Bubbles, and Excitebike, Sakurai did not rule out Mach Rider as a candidate. It shows that he clearly had Mach Rider in the mind for Smash 2 so with the retro pool dwindling, there is more of a reason for Sakurai to consider him again over Lip and Duck Hunt Dog (although I feel Takamaru will be in as well with Mach Rider).
There's also this to note. Sakurai has stated that he loves to revive retro characters in Smash. This essentially confirms that a retro rep is going to be in, but what's interesting is how this can link to Mach Rider's appearance.
Let's compare Takamaru, Lip, and Duck Hunt Dog, the three other choices Sakurai could make:
Lip: There's not much of a reason for Sakurai to revive this game. If Sakurai is going to revive a retro character, he wants to revive ones he can do a lot with and puzzle genre simply do not work.
Duck Hunt Dog: Why would he revive Duck Hunt Dog? This is something that can be made into a downloadable game and be called a day and I seriously doubt Sakurai is going to plan his next project as small as this one.
Takamaru: The only other potential option left, but this one is unlikely. One is that he, in a way, has already been revived. He's appeared in Samurai Warriors 3, Captain Rainbow, WarioWare: D.I.Y., and is going to be in Nintendo Land. So Sakurai reviving him would be futile as he is already revived. And beside, Takamaru is likely to show up without a revival by Sakurai anyway.
What Mach Rider has over them is that he has yet to be revived like Takamaru and unlike Lip and Duck Hunt Dog, leaves a lot of room to be revived. If Sakurai is truly planning to revive a retro character, chances are that he's going to go with Mach Rider.
Game Play Discussion:
As I have been harping on, Mach Rider leaves a lot of room for interpretation by Sakurai.
Mach Rider, if he were to get in, would be close to Captain Falcon's speed. He would be heavier and would work as a rushdown monster; someone that is fast and uses speed to his advantage.
If there are any supporters out there with a move set or ideas for one, that would be gladly appreciated.
People Who Support Mach Rider's Inclusion For Super Smash Bros. 4:
* Super Smash Bros. Fan ~ Leader of the Group, #2 Fan
* Jhonnykiller45
* GoldenYuittusin
* Oasis_S ~ #1 Fan
* Venus of the Desert Bloom
* R.O.B.
* 8-peacock-8
* Mypantsisgone
* Cider
* Young Horsetail
* DakotaBonez
* SubparSmashBrother
* jigglover
* MelMoe
* shinhed-echi
* Onyx Oblivion
* samusrules93
* Diddy Kong
After destroying the Quadrunners in 2112, a man was looking for a new challenge. He looked all over the world for people to challenge him and his ability, but no one was willing to face him. After searching for years, he finally got an invitation sent to him stating this:
"You have been awaiting the fight of your life. Come and join other Smashers and fight with the mightiest of warriors."
He was immediately interested. This was his chance to show what he was made off and he was prepared to risk his own life for this event. He was..."
Mach Rider!!!
Mach Rider is a character who stars in the 1985 game of the same name. While the game has not received a sequel, the game was a major influence to F-zero as both are in a futuristic settings with incredibly high speed and contain aggressive drivers. As a matter of fact, Mach Rider even shares some similarity with Captain Falcon. In a way, F-zero is considered Mach Rider's spiritual predecessor.
He is also an often overlooked candidate for Super Smash Bros. 4, as a matter of fact, probably one of the most underrated characters. Mach Rider is a very plausible contender that is worthy of a spot and certainly worth consideration.
Does Mach Rider Meet All Four Criterias?
Let's take a look at Sakurai's four criteria's. The most important thing that Sakurai considers when adding characters are these criteria as every character from Brawl meets them:
1.: A character must make the character want to play the game
95% of people will say he obviously fail this criteria due to not being a popular request, but if Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers, Mr. Game & Watch and R.O.B. taught us anything, it's that a character can meet this criteria and not be a popular request. What Sakurai also considers is if the character is likable and as such, can be made into popular characters that people will never want to let go. Mach Rider has the potential to be the next Captain Falcon or Ice Climbers.
2.: A character must be unique
People will say this destroys Mach Rider's chance of being in Smash as well due to limited move set potentials, but by that logic, Captain Falcon wouldn't be eligible for Smash as well. Look at Captain Falcon, he was completely unique when he got into Smash. The thing about Captain Falcon that got him in was not that he had a bunch of fights to deal with, but that he was capable of fighting and his style reflects that of the fast pace and intense nature of his games. Mach Rider would also be able to reflect his own game as well and he techincally has more move set potentials than Captain Falcon due to having a machine gun.
3.: A character must fit into the game
Detractors will argue that because he was in a bike that he can't be in. That argument is fallicious because Captain Falcon was almost always only seen in his Blue Falcon and never seen fighting, yet behold, he was in all of the Smash games.
4.: A character must contribute to the game balance
Given that he fits the uniquenss and fitting criteria, I'd say he fits this one as well.
Why believe he could show up?
Several reasons.
The first reason is because he's the spiritual predecessor to F-zero. Given that F-zero was an important series to Nintendo, this gives Mach Rider some source of importance because it was the inspiration for the series and without it, we wouldn't have F-zero, or at least not the same way. At any rate, considering that it's more important to Nintendo than Ice Climbers was to Nintendo, it's certainly a plus.
Interesting as well is that he was Sakurai's favorite character for Super Smash Bros. 2. Unlike with Balloon Figher, Urban Champion, Bubbles, and Excitebike, Sakurai did not rule out Mach Rider as a candidate. It shows that he clearly had Mach Rider in the mind for Smash 2 so with the retro pool dwindling, there is more of a reason for Sakurai to consider him again over Lip and Duck Hunt Dog (although I feel Takamaru will be in as well with Mach Rider).
There's also this to note. Sakurai has stated that he loves to revive retro characters in Smash. This essentially confirms that a retro rep is going to be in, but what's interesting is how this can link to Mach Rider's appearance.
Let's compare Takamaru, Lip, and Duck Hunt Dog, the three other choices Sakurai could make:
Lip: There's not much of a reason for Sakurai to revive this game. If Sakurai is going to revive a retro character, he wants to revive ones he can do a lot with and puzzle genre simply do not work.
Duck Hunt Dog: Why would he revive Duck Hunt Dog? This is something that can be made into a downloadable game and be called a day and I seriously doubt Sakurai is going to plan his next project as small as this one.
Takamaru: The only other potential option left, but this one is unlikely. One is that he, in a way, has already been revived. He's appeared in Samurai Warriors 3, Captain Rainbow, WarioWare: D.I.Y., and is going to be in Nintendo Land. So Sakurai reviving him would be futile as he is already revived. And beside, Takamaru is likely to show up without a revival by Sakurai anyway.
What Mach Rider has over them is that he has yet to be revived like Takamaru and unlike Lip and Duck Hunt Dog, leaves a lot of room to be revived. If Sakurai is truly planning to revive a retro character, chances are that he's going to go with Mach Rider.
Game Play Discussion:
As I have been harping on, Mach Rider leaves a lot of room for interpretation by Sakurai.
Mach Rider, if he were to get in, would be close to Captain Falcon's speed. He would be heavier and would work as a rushdown monster; someone that is fast and uses speed to his advantage.
If there are any supporters out there with a move set or ideas for one, that would be gladly appreciated.
People Who Support Mach Rider's Inclusion For Super Smash Bros. 4:
* Super Smash Bros. Fan ~ Leader of the Group, #2 Fan
* Jhonnykiller45
* GoldenYuittusin
* Oasis_S ~ #1 Fan
* Venus of the Desert Bloom
* R.O.B.
* 8-peacock-8
* Mypantsisgone
* Cider
* Young Horsetail
* DakotaBonez
* SubparSmashBrother
* jigglover
* MelMoe
* shinhed-echi
* Onyx Oblivion
* samusrules93
* Diddy Kong
. To make it more future-y, a chain covered in energy. 
