The First Ever Nintendo product- Mr. Hanafuda

BluePikmin11 · Feb 7, 2013

We had many surprise characters since Melee. The first being Mr. Game Watch, and recently R.O.B.

Why not surprise us with Mr. Hanafuda?

Hanafuda Cards were the first product Nintendo began with before the game industry. These cards were distributed in Japan in 1889 (Crazy eh?). This is the oldest (not video)game Nintendo has ever produced. Mr. Hanafuda appeared in actual games but they were all released in Japan only.

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Hanafuda

Now what would Mr. Hanafuda look like?

Mr. Hanafuda could look like a card with arms and legs, pretty simple!

His moveset could be based on cards, and his playstyle could be similar to how Luxord fights, which makes him unique from the rest of the Smash cast.

This is Luxord, incase you had never heard of KH.

I will update the thread soon with a complete moveset. As of right now, what are your opinions on him?

Mr. Hanafuda Icons:

By Falkoopa:

xHampi's moveset:

Neutral B : Love tester

Mister Hanafuda launch one of the metal balls from the Love Tester toward him, if the ball hit a foe the ball will wrap around him/her, he/she will be unable to go away until one of them get hurt or if Mr Hanafuda use this attack again, if he do he will use the love tester like a fishing rod and send his opponent flying in his direction.

Up B : Ultra hand
Your basic tether reccovery attack except that he will act like the second part of the Love tester if it hit another character.

Down B : Chiritorie
Mr Hanafuda will put a chicoritie on the ground, it will not move until an opponent gets too close, it will then begin to chase him/her, if it succeeds to touch him/her it will immobilize him/her for some seconds, in any case the Chiritorie will disappear sometimes after being summoned but not activate, fail to grab the opponent after some seconds, destroy by attacks of if Mr Hanafuda put another somewhere.

Side B : Lefty RX
A little car who will go straight forward at high speed at the cost of not being to not being able to turn around or jump, will disappear once it hit something or fall to his demise.

Final Smash : Kôsenjû SP Series
Works pretty much like Zelda's Light Arrow.

Mr. Hanafuda's Supporting Cards:

1. BluePikmin11

2. ManBearPig

3. Vintage Creep

4. Banjodorf

5. fogbadge

6. xHampi

7. GoldenYuiitusin

8. Falkoopa

9. Kamikazek

10. Keybladeguy

11. CalumG

12. RaccoonBL

13. APC99

14. Michael Blaine

15. grizby2

Diddy Kong · Feb 7, 2013

Well, that would be a surprise.

peeup · Feb 7, 2013

Wait I actually love this idea. Possibly because you compared him to Luxord /fanboy

Arcadenik · Feb 7, 2013

He looks like Napoleon. Is he really Mr. Hanafuda or was Napoleon's image merely used to promote the cards?

Robert of Normandy · Feb 7, 2013

His stage should be a love hotel. :troll:

peeup · Feb 7, 2013

Also is he technically eligible? Characters need to originate from a video game, yes? Or do they just have to originate from a game?

Robert of Normandy · Feb 7, 2013

peeup said:
Also is he technically eligible? Characters need to originate from a video game, yes? Or do they just have to originate from a game?

Video game. Also, he's never been on a Nintendo console, so I think he's ineligible.

peeup · Feb 7, 2013

Well wasn't ROB not actually in his original games? Like wasn't he just an accessory?

Robert of Normandy · Feb 7, 2013

peeup said:
Well wasn't ROB not actually in his original games? Like wasn't he just an accessory?

I guess that counts. *shrugs*

Diddy Kong · Feb 7, 2013

shinpichu said:
His stage should be a love hotel.

I'm the King of Hearts, baby!! :cool:

BluePikmin11 · Feb 7, 2013

peeup said:
Also is he technically eligible? Characters need to originate from a video game, yes? Or do they just have to originate from a game?

Actually Mr. Hanafuda appeared in actual games but they were all released in Japan only
http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Hanafuda

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Karan Koron Gakuen: Hanafuda - Mahjong - Game Boy Color (Japan only)
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peeup · Feb 7, 2013

BluePikmin11 said:
Actually Mr. Hanafuda appeared in actual games but they were all released in Japan only
http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Hanafuda

Well there you go, he's eligible!

shinpichu said:
I guess that counts. *shrugs*

If they made it work for ROB then I think they can make it work for Mr. Hanafuda.

BluePikmin11 · Feb 7, 2013

Someone should send a message to Sakurai about it like right now, maybe on his Twitter.

Robert of Normandy · Feb 7, 2013

peeup said:
Well there you go, he's eligible!

He didn't ORIGINATE in a video game. Doesn't matter that he's been in them, he still originated on hanafuda cards.

peeup · Feb 7, 2013

ROB didn't technically originate in a videogame, he originated... next to a videogame?

BluePikmin11 · Feb 7, 2013

shinpichu said:
He didn't ORIGINATE in a video game. Doesn't matter that he's been in them, he still originated on hanafuda cards.

But it was an important part of Nintendo's beginning.

fogbadge · Feb 7, 2013

this has got to be the most insane character idea ive ever heard

and im all for whacky fighters so why not

Deleted member · Feb 7, 2013

I like this idea. If not Sheriff, then I would hope Mr. Hanafuda would be added if we get a pre-G&W historic rep.

Whether or not he debuted in a game or not, he is important to Nintendo history, and can be considered a Smash Original if need be.

Onyx Oblivian · Feb 7, 2013

GoldenYuiitusin said:
I like this idea. If not Sheriff, then I would hope Mr. Hanafuda would be added if we get a pre-G&W historic rep.

Whether or not he debuted in a game or not, he is important to Nintendo history, and can be considered a Smash Original if need be.

This. And the funny thing is, it really seems likely to be that kind of "surprise" character that is an ode to Nintendo's History that would show up in a smash game.

Its brilliant hahah and if this happens you need to play the lotto and claim your prize money.

Diddy Kong · Feb 7, 2013

This is much better than Sherrif.

peeup · Feb 7, 2013

BluePikmin11 said:
But it was an important part of Nintendo's beginning.

And Nintendo's first product ever isn't an important part of Nintendo's beginning?

Diddy Kong · Feb 7, 2013

No.

BluePikmin11 · Feb 7, 2013

Onyx Oblivian said:
This. And the funny thing is, it really seems likely to be that kind of "surprise" character that is an ode to Nintendo's History that would show up in a smash game.

Its brilliant hahah and if this happens you need to play the lotto and claim your prize money.

*claims prize money*

PsychoIncarnate · Feb 7, 2013

OP: To make him unique, let's copy his moves from Luxord

Me:...

Deleted member · Feb 7, 2013

PsychoIncarnate said:
OP: To make him unique, let's copy his moves from Luxord

Me:...

Unless there is someone else in Smash that copies Luxord, that is unique.

Unique is not the same thing as "original", you know. While copying Luxord would make the character unoriginal, it still makes him unique from the rest of the cast.

Robert of Normandy · Feb 7, 2013

GoldenYuiitusin said:
Whether or not he debuted in a game or not, he is important to Nintendo history, and can be considered a Smash Original if need be.

But one of Sakurai's criteria for a character being eligible to be in a Smash game is that said character had to originate in a video game. So he's therefore ineligible.

Deleted member · Feb 7, 2013

shinpichu said:
But one of Sakurai's criteria for a character being eligible to be in a Smash game is that said character had to originate in a video game. So he's therefore ineligible.

4 problems with this:

1. He said that for 3rd Parties specifically.
2.

(Being an accessory for a game is not the same as originating IN it.)
3.

(Debuted in Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, far before an appearance in a game.)
4.

(No such character exists in the old Game & Watch titles. He is only based of the multiple nameless characters.)

Robert of Normandy · Feb 7, 2013

GoldenYuiitusin said:
4 problems with this:

1. He said that for 3rd Parties specifically.

Who says it can't apply to non-third parties?

2. (Being an accessory for a game is not the same as originating IN it.)
4. (No such character exists in the old Game & Watch titles. He is based of the multiple nameless characters.)

Perhaps Sakurai considers that "good enough."

Regardless of Hanafuda's eligibility, I still think Sheriff is a better choice.

Deleted member · Feb 7, 2013

If you have to make assumptions to make exceptions, then you've lost the argument. The point is that those three are examples of Nintendo characters that did not debut in a game (or in G&W's case, not at all) and still were elligible for Smash.
Also, give proof that the Lucario example applies to "a number of characters".

BluePikmin11 · Feb 7, 2013

GoldenYuiitusin said:
If you have to make assumptions to make exceptions, then you've lost the argument. The point is that those three are examples of Nintendo characters that did not debut in a game (or in G&W's case, not at all) and still were elligible for Smash.
Also, give proof that the Lucario example applies to "a number of characters".

I was going to say that too. :D

Robert of Normandy · Feb 7, 2013

GoldenYuiitusin said:
If you have to make assumptions to make exceptions, then you've lost the argument. The point is that those three are examples of Nintendo characters that did not debut in a game (or in G&W's case, not at all) and still were elligible for Smash.
Also, give proof that the Lucario example applies to "a number of characters".

Point. Still think there are better options.

BluePikmin11 · Feb 7, 2013

shinpichu said:
Point. Still think there are better options.

Point. It's Nintendo, Sakurai can make it possible. lol

Robert of Normandy · Feb 7, 2013

BluePikmin11 said:
Point. It's Nintendo, Sakurai can make it possible. lol

Not sure what you mean. Are you agreeing with me? Because that's what "point" means.

TheCreator · Feb 7, 2013

I've actually heard this topic brought up pre-brawl. Didn't like it then, don't like it now. If we're going to get a complete WTF retro, I'd prefer Duck Hunt Dog, or that kid from Star Tropics. (Mike Jones?)

Diddy Kong · Feb 7, 2013

Robert of Normandy · Feb 7, 2013

TheCreator said:
I've actually heard this topic brought up pre-brawl. Didn't like it then, don't like it now. If we're going to get a complete WTF retro, I'd prefer Duck Hunt Dog, or that kid from Star Tropics. (Mike Jones?)

As established, there are no "WTF" retros. The ones most people call "WTF" are there to represent Nintendo hardware history.
-G&W was Nintendo's first handheld, and invented the D-Pad.
-ROB was and NES accessory that helped revive the North American video game market.

Diddy Kong · Feb 7, 2013

No, WTF-addtions are also characters as Captain Falcon and Ness (64), Sheik, Ice Climbers and Roy (Melee) and Zero Suit Samus and Pokémon Trainer (Brawl).

8-peacock-8 · Feb 7, 2013

Pokemon Trainer wasn't a WTF addition.

Banjodorf · Feb 7, 2013

OH LORD.

THIS IS PERFECT. A Hanafuda card...man, is honestly the greatest WTF ever. Holy crapola.

Diddy Kong · Feb 7, 2013

Not many where exactly expecting him. Just suggesting him, and not in the way he was implemented either with Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard. So yes, he's a WTF additon to me.

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