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Final Fantasy IX Mafia | Game over! | Who won? :o

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~ Gheb ~

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~ Welcome to Final Fantasy IX mafia! This is the 7th mafia game I host on SWF and I can proudly say that the flavor and the balance of the set-up make this my best game so far! It is loosely based on actual story of the original game, however there is no knowledge required whatsoever. In fact, going and acting based on the flavor is not going to be beneficial, no matter who you are or what alignment you are of. That said, I wish you a ton of fun with this game! ~​

[collapse="Rules:"]Fundamentals
1.) Don't be an *** to others. Don't make the game unfun for others by being an ***
2.) Once you have died in the game, you are only allowed to make 1 more post which should consist of “bah go scum/town”.
3.) No communication about this game is allowed with non-players or players who are dead, even if you yourself are dead. (If you are dead, you may not discuss the game with anyone who is currently playing, even if you could while you were alive, unless your role specifically states otherwise.)
4.) Unless your role PM specifically allows you the power, you are not to communicate with anyone about this game outside of this game thread. This includes posting content outside of the game thread and linking to it in the game thread.
5.) Do not edit your posts. Double posting is fine in its place.
6.) I reserve the right to deny anyone from signing up/replacing.
7.) You are not allowed to quote any mod communication of any kind, real or fake. You must paraphrase all information you wish to claim. This includes any additional PMs I may send to you outside of your role PM. You are not allowed to post or refer to any images in your role PM, nor may you post metadata about mod PMs in an attempt to break the game (e.g., message ID in the URL, time of day the message was sent, etc.).
8.) You may not post screenshots of any kind.
9.) The use of non-English, invisible, hidden, coded, or otherwise intentionally hidden or indecipherable text is strictly prohibited. (Spoiler tags are allowed because they are easily noticeable. This rule is not meant to disallow breadcrumbing within the visible text of a message.)
10.) You may not quote logs of communication with other players. You are free to paraphrase.
11.) Failure to send in your night action(s) will result in no action(s) being taken.
12.) Failure to adhere to the rules will result in replacement or modkill based on my discretion.

Voting and Lynching
1.) Each Day, you may vote for a player to be lynched using a bold vote command. For example, vote: Kuz.
2.) To unvote, use the command unvote. For example, unvote vote: Ryker.
3.) You do not have to unvote before voting another player.
4.) No lynch is a viable lynch choice and a majority will end the Day without a lynch. For example, vote: No Lynch.
5.) After the majority lynch has been decided but before the lynch scene is posted, there will be a Twilight phase. Everyone can post in this phase, including the lynch majority target.
6.) The Day will end when a majority lynch is decided or a preset deadline has been reached. If deadline is reached without a majority lynch decided, there will be no lynch.
7.) There is no posting in this thread during the Night phase, the thread should be closed anyway.

Activity and Deadline
1.) You are required to post every 48 hours. If you fail to do so, you will be prodded. An accumulation of too many prods (however much I think that is) will result in your replacement or a modkill depending on the circumstances. When feasible, I will tell you if I'm considering replacing/modkilling you. If you will be inactive for an extended period of time, you must notify me in advance. Unexcused or particularly long absences may result in your replacement or modkill.
2.) I do not expect to grant deadline extensions, barring extenuating circumstances. In the event I need to replace a player, I may extend the deadline to accommodate the new player. Certain game events may also result in a change of deadline.
3.) Days will generally last 10 days.
4.) Nights will generally last approximately 48 hours. If you have a Night action and do not wish to use it, please send me a PM to that effect, lest I have to wait until the deadline for naught.

Game-specific
1.) The game mod is the game god. However, if you feel the game god happens to be testing your faith by placing an error in the game, then please feel free to point it out via PM
2.) All roles are assigned entirely at random.
3.) Modkills only end days if the player being modkilled is town-aligned. Otherwise, day continues. In the event that a player is modkilled during twilight/night, the modkill will affect the next day phase (meaning that day would automatically end if the player is town and that day would continue as normal if otherwise). Exceptions to this rule may be made based on the state of the game and my personal judgment.
4.) All of these rules are written on a dry erase board. In the event of a conflict between these rules and any game-specific rules or mod communication, the game-specific rules/mod communication take precedence.
5.) Hydra logs are not allowed to be posted.
6.) Confirm that you have received and understood your role PM via PM to me.
7.) Town WinCondition is EXACTLY as follows:

"You are aligned with the Town and you win when all threats to the town have been eliminated."[/collapse]

[Collapse="Player List:"]Alive:

4. July
5. AggressiveMediation (Ryker/Laundry)
7. th3kuzinator
11. Sephiroths Masamune Nicholas1024

Dead:

Red Ryu - Vivi, Town Voteblocker - Lynched Day 1
Seikend - Cinna, Vanilla townie - Killed Night 1
Panta - Prof. Tot, Vanilla Townie - Daykilled Day 2
Traveling Cat - Amarant, Town Doc - Lynched Day 2
J - Black Waltz, Mafia Roleblocker - Lynched Day 3
Acrostic - Zidane, Town Cop - Killed Night 3
Tandora - Baku, Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 4
Hilt - Garnet, Town Vigilante - Killed Night 4
SangfroidWarrior - Stilzkin, Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 5
JTB - Eiko - Town Innocent Child - Killed Night 5


Replacements:

Nabe[/collapse]
 

~ Gheb ~

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...In the year of 1800 the continent of mist was the center of political, cultural and economical activity on the planet Gaia. After a long history of rural societies with lose structures the sudden appearance of mist on the continent has had a dramatic impact. It was said that it amplifies the desire to fight within people and indeed shortly after the first appearances of the mist the societies were split apart. Battles were on the daily order and almost ruined the continent. These unsociable circumstances led people emigrate towards the higher ground and found cities on plateaus where the mist could not reach. Only few years later all of the continent's ground was covered in mist - monsters appeared and made life outside of the cities dangerous.
Until this day - 15th January of 1800 - a lot of things have changed. Ways to make the mist economically viable as a fuel for various machines have been found, which caused an economical upswing in the kingdoms that have evolved on the plateaus over time. Up to the present time, 3 major kingdoms have managed to establish themselves as leading forces on the continent of mist. In the northwest it is Burmecia - a land of crass climatic differences - that controls the economic and political composition of the capital city Burmecia, the isolated village Cleyra and all regions between. In the south lies the richest realm on the continent, the dukedom of Linbloom. Governed by Duke Cid and his ministers it is also the empire that has the longest, most complex history on the continent. The use of mist as fuel material, airships and trade routes via the see have all been found and used first here and caused Linbloom to remain the most influential political force up until this day. Most political scientists on Gaia claim that current political stability on the continent is based on the dukedom's constant commitment for a peaceful co-existence of the three main empires.

This game's story however, leads us into the east of the continent of mist - to the kingdom of Alexandria...


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Not even a hundred years ago Alexandria was just another one of countless minor princedoms in the east of the continent. The ambitions of a prince of Alexandria at that time caused an increased activity between the military forces of the aristocrats. Ultimately this led to a forced coalition of the princedoms under the sovereignty of Alexandria, which name was kept up until this day. Lindbloom tolerated this change of the political structure as it saw a strong new trading partner in the new empire. In the same hand the balance between the realms of the east, Linbloom and Burmecia has not been negatively affected by Alexandria's ambitions. At that time Alexandria has found wealth via the occupation of cities like Treno and it's riches as well as through rural villages such as Dali.
On this fateful 15th January the aristocracy of Linbloom and Burmecia have been invited to the capital city of Alexandria to celebrate the 16th birthday of Princess Garnet, daughter of the current Queen Brahne. Having the intention to confirm the friendly relationship between the 3 main empires most nobles gladly accepted the invitation. A play was about to be held to welcome and entertain the guests from all these foreign countries...

...but one person was missing. It was the birthday child Princess Garnet herself that was nowhere to be found in the castle of Alexandria, where the festivities were about to take place. After the investigations of the castle guards led to no result a rumor that the princess was kidnapped quickly spread. But who would have interest in kidnapping the princess? Princess Garnet was a personal friend of Cid's the current duke of Linbloom and the current political position of Linbloom would make such a risky move implausible anyway. Burmecia was economically the weakest empire among the three on Gaia and surely couldn't risk a war against Alexandria in its current position. For Alexandria itself Garnet is often considered the "credibility factor" of the somewhat irrational Queen Brahne so she surely wouldn't gamble away her good terms with the other empires through such a misguided move. Thus the question remains: Who did it? Queen Brahne decided to put the whole castle under quarantine until the problem was solved, hoping the kidnappers were still within the castle.


"We must find the Princess and her kidnappers at once!" the queen shouted anxiously.
"Just a moment" a voice interfered. It's duke Cid that stepped forth and pointed with his finger towards a young girl. "She's innocent. Beyond any glimpse of doubt she lacks the capabilities of passing through the guard unnoticed *and* kidnapping the princess. There's no way that *she* did it."
"Alright" the queen replied. It's not a lot but at least it's a start and it's surely helpful to know.




JTB's identity as Eiko Coral - Town aligned Innocent Child - has been revealed and confirmed!


"Alright" the Queen repeated "now find my daughter and her kidnappers!"

Day 1 starts - deadline: Thursday, 4th August

Not voting: Inferno, Tom, J, Leopard Skin Taser, AggressiveMediation, JTB, Kuz/Soup, Hilt, Red Ryu, Acrostic, Sephiroth's Masamune, Panta, Ignatius, Seikend

Takes 8/14 to lynch!
 

Leopard Skin Taser

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And now it starts :/... In all fairness, I forgot how to spell "Leopard" and had to look and see if I was spelling the password wrong on my Gordito account.

But still hey JTB looks like you'll be getting out of D1! Gonna have to change that location mang.
 

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Vote: acrostic

Never seen a game in which someone was confirmed town right away, so this should be interesting.

:phone:
 

JTB

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Also, my vote wasn't RVS or OMGUS at all. Didn't like how Acrostic needed to thoroughly explain a vote that could've easily been interpreted as RVS.

Looking forward to seeing AM in action again :cool:
 

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Vote: acrostic Never seen a game in which someone was confirmed town right away, so this should be interesting. :phone:
That's an interesting way to comment on your own role wrt "... in which someone..."

JTB said:
Also, my vote wasn't RVS or OMGUS at all. Didn't like how Acrostic needed to thoroughly explain a vote that could've easily been interpreted as RVS.
I usually take RVS as the time period when people ./confirm roles. As we confirmed before-hand with Gheb, I wanted to start off the game by checking how valid your mod stated reveal was by tunneling on you during the early part of the game. Then I checked the role on mafiascum and found out that it is more or less a confirmed town role. I suppose this might still file under a possible scum aligned role, however I think that waiting for tomorrow and seeing how day start is handled would give me a better impression than what I was previously planning.
 

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So you think that the mod is trying to introduce WIFOM by adding a role that is confirmed town at the beginning of the game.

I really don't know what you accomplish by this at all.
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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So you think that the mod is trying to introduce WIFOM by adding a role that is confirmed town at the beginning of the game.
No. I initially had doubts that a mod would just give us a free clear. Therefore I was thinking that it could be a possible mafia mix-up role. Then I found out that that this is part of the role you were given, so the notion became more plausible to me.

JTB said:
I really don't know what you accomplish by this at all.
I'm explaining an initial misunderstanding I had on my part. I believe it is important to clear up things as soon as possible. I've told you what I was thinking. How you choose to interpret it is up to you.
 

#HBC | J

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I'm really confused with you Acrostic. Just with this over-all dilemna with the legitimacy of JTB's role-flip. Plus you randomly getting off to join me on Sephy. o_O

@RR: I really need to get a new ava/font color change. :urg:
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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I'm really confused with you Acrostic. Just with this over-all dilemna with the legitimacy of JTB's role-flip.
I really don't understand what there is not to understand. I wasn't familiar with the innocent child role, then I became familiar with the innocent child role. I thought Gheb was just revealing a town role for no reason. I thought that was strange, then I acquainted myself with the role description.

J said:
Plus you randomly getting off to join me on Sephy. o_O
Seriously. Am I going to have to substantiate all my actions?
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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@J: Are you reading this early reaction as a scum tell, null tell, or town tell? And why.

@Red: Thoughts on #15. Also can you tell me if J scum plays in a distinct way from J town?
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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Will repeating myself for the third time help me find out your alignment? Because it is getting annoying.
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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I have a better impression of you this game than I did in the Newbie game.

Is it because you have more time to play this game or have you gotten better?
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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I like to think that I've gotten better. Although I don't see how you could see this in 2 posts.
Just an initial impression. When I played with you in Newbie 10, I didn't like you within your first ten posts... and you were scum. Reasons for the kuz|soup vote?
 

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You need reasons for a RVS vote?
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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You need reasons for a RVS vote?
So this is still RVS then? J asked me for a reason on my vote, so I thought we were already getting into content analysis. If this is just the period where we mess around then I'll just chill out and play in the corner.
 

#HBC | J

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I really don't understand what there is not to understand. I wasn't familiar with the innocent child role, then I became familiar with the innocent child role. I thought Gheb was just revealing a town role for no reason. I thought that was strange, then I acquainted myself with the role description.
But it said mod-confirmed Town. That's the thing I don't understand why you came in, in what seemed a serious manner, towards your JTB vote.

So this is still RVS then? J asked me for a reason on my vote, so I thought we were already getting into content analysis. If this is just the period where we mess around then I'll just chill out and play in the corner.
I didn't ask for your reasoning though, I just was surprised a bit you went from serious voting to joke voting. It's kindof schizo and that's the impression I got off of it.
 

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i find Acrostic's explanation for his actions to be absolutely acceptable and a null tell.
 

DtJ Hilt

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Yeah. The posts were made ten minutes apart from each other, and he took the time to link the innocent child role in the second post. Makes me think he did actually look it up, not just making stuff up on the spot.
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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But it said mod-confirmed Town. That's the thing I don't understand why you came in, in what seemed a serious manner, towards your JTB vote.
First, it doesn't say, "mod-confirmed Town." It says, "... has been revealed and confirmed!" "mod-confirmed Town" is a lot more distinct than "... has been revealed and confirmed!" as I don't know how JTB was revealed and I don't know who confirmed JTB. Does this word-play matter? The sincere answer is that I don't know. If we could explore some parallel universe where there is an alternate timeline similar to this one and I'm playing Gheb's FF9 mafia game and the prompt read, "mod-confirmed Town" then maybe I would take on a divergent path. Who the hell knows. I'm more curious why you twisted the prompt into something more obvious.

Second, there is a difference between not understanding and not believing. I believe you are switching the two terms to appear more subtle and less confrontational, however I really don't think you're looking for a third explanation. I'm more curious as to why you're pushing this in such a passive manner instead of blatantly just telling me that you think I'm lying. And if you think that I am lying, why I would do this and how it would benefit me if I were town or scum. Right now I feel like you're just throwing this conversation in circles and preventing more important reads on other players. If you don't believe me then just say it, it's a whole lot better than me watching you retype, "I'm confused, I'm confused, I'm confused" repeatedly.

J said:
No not really I was just curious because you just seemed to randomly vote Seph after you serious voted JTB.
If I choose to eat dinner right now or walk my dog right now, would it be random? Just because I don't attach a reason to an action before I commit to it doesn't mean that the action is random. I ate dinner because I was hungry and I walked my dog because I wanted some mild exercise. If I told you before hand that I'm voting Sephiroth for the sake of x, y, and z then it defeats the purpose as Sephiroth will know what I'm doing and the purpose behind the procedure will be tainted.

Also consider this, does it matter if the vote was random? If there is a discrepancy between my rational JTB vote and my irrational Sephiroth vote then what would that mean to you?

J said:
I didn't ask for your reasoning though, I just was surprised a bit you went from serious voting to joke voting. It's kindof schizo and that's the impression I got off of it.
A schizo tell. I suppose that's a new tell that doesn't fit into town, scum, or null. Nice.
 

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Seikend I saw you stop by and leave. Don't lurk. JTB is waiting for everyone to post before s|he gets serious. And I will push policy lynches if needed.

Unvote, Vote: Seikend
 

Seikend

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Already called out for lurking, welp.

I got some free time.

Think that Acrostic's first two posts are utterly null, don't care about them and think focusing on it is kinda dumb. Think the current line of discussion is going to be fruitless but don't know how to move conversation elsewhere. Will try anyways.


@Seph Give me a read on Acrostic please. And not to do with his first two posts. On his defence of those posts. Thanks.


@Acrostic Are you implying you'd push a policy lynch on me for lurking/inactivity? Half the player list hasn't even posted yet. Threatening me with a policy lynch at this point is kinda dumb. Is there genuine intent behind it?

Thoughts on J at the moment? What was the impression you got of Seph?

JTB is waiting for everyone to post before s|he gets serious.
wait wut.


@ Kuz/Soup I'll be honest, I think I'll be able to read you guys the easiest, since I've played with you the most. If I have you as null I'll assume you're scum. Problem?


Current content is mostly garbage.

Tom's post looks artificial, but that might be his posting style. If his future posts look consistent I'll ignore it.

Other than that nothing else looks that scummy to me so far. Just a whole bunch of nulls.
 

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@Acrostic Are you implying you'd push a policy lynch on me for lurking/inactivity? Half the player list hasn't even posted yet. Threatening me with a policy lynch at this point is kinda dumb. Is there genuine intent behind it?
I just wanted you to post.

Seikend said:
Thoughts on J at the moment? What was the impression you got of Seph?
Nothing definitive on J. Impression of Seph at first glance is town-null. My read on him will more likely be based on mid-late day play. When I played with him last time it felt like I hit a wall of static. It's hard to explain.

Seikend said:
Current content is mostly garbage.
Agreed.

Seikend said:
Tom's post looks artificial, but that might be his posting style. If his future posts look consistent I'll ignore it.
Agreed.
 

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No. I initially had doubts that a mod would just give us a free clear. Therefore I was thinking that it could be a possible mafia mix-up role. Then I found out that that this is part of the role you were given, so the notion became more plausible to me.



I'm explaining an initial misunderstanding I had on my part. I believe it is important to clear up things as soon as possible. I've told you what I was thinking. How you choose to interpret it is up to you.
Too bad that logic couldn't have saved me in the newbie game.

vote: Acrostic

Yes. This is an OMGUS vote.


From another game.
 

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First, it doesn't say, "mod-confirmed Town." It says, "... has been revealed and confirmed!" "mod-confirmed Town" is a lot more distinct than "... has been revealed and confirmed!"
Last time I checked, when the mod confirms someone as town, it's mod confirmed. :ohwell:

@Seph Give me a read on Acrostic please. And not to do with his first two posts. On his defence of those posts. Thanks.
I think he's being a little too over aggressive. And some of the arguments don't even make sense from my perspective.

I'd much rather see more of him before I make a clear stance on him at the moment.
 

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I'm really confused with you Acrostic. Just with this over-all dilemna with the legitimacy of JTB's role-flip. Plus you randomly getting off to join me on Sephy. o_O

@RR: I really need to get a new ava/font color change. :urg:
My bad. :(

@J: Are you reading this early reaction as a scum tell, null tell, or town tell? And why.

@Red: Thoughts on #15. Also can you tell me if J scum plays in a distinct way from J town?
He will AtE a lot more as scum.
 

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Day 1 - Votecount #1

"Today is Princess Garnet's sixteenth birthday, you know!
Her Highness is a beautiful princess, and everyone in Alexandria loves her!
Why, she's the most beautiful princess in the history of Alexandria!"


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Voted | Voter(s) | Votes/Lynch
Sephiroth's Masamune | J | 1 / 8
Acrostic | JTB, Panta | 2 / 8
J | Red Ryu | 1 / 8
Soup/Kuz | Sephiroth's Masamune | 1 / 8
Seikend | Acrostic | 1 / 8

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Not Voting: Inferno, Tom, Leopard Skin Taser, AggressiveMediation, Kuz/Soup, Hilt, Ignatius, Seikend;
Takes 8/14 to lynch
 

#HBC | J

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It's so nice having a game on my normal account. :tired: Though it seems to be moving pretty slowly and I am bored atm sooooo question time.

Acrostic, I believe you need to take a chill pill. However I agree that continuing this convo won't do either of us any good at all. Tell me what vibes you get from 31? You respond to it, but what do you make of Seikend?

Seikend, tell me what you think of Seph atm? Do you agree with RR's explanation of me?

Tom-tom, can you tell me who you think are the stronger players in your opinion on the player list? Who are you looking out for the most and why? Then tell me what you get from Seph atm. By that is there anything of value to his posts?

Seph, tell me what you think of Tom. Who's post is more telling, Panta's or Hilt's and why?

JTB, I have a similar question like the one I asked Tom. Give me one strong player you are looking out for and one other player you feel you are going to have the hardest time reading. I still chuckle a bit that there is no way for you to be lynched D1. :laugh:

People who haven't posted, pick one of Acrostic/Seikend and tell me what you think about them? Do you agree with what they both said w.r.t. Tom?

Question at solely Ignatius: Heya, never heard of ya. So can ya tell me a bit about your mafia experience? Do you know anyone in this game?

Unvote
 

Leopard Skin Taser

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Why are you fools all up on Acrostic? He's a new player, and if it wasn't for Sonic Mafia, I'd have not known what the Innochild is either.

J, is it possible for you to maybe go to an easier to read red? It's just hurting my eyes trying to read it, and I know Ruy can't change his (yet), but yea.

I'll be back later to do stuff. Let's see if it's so incredibly easy to tell who's posting between Gord and myself LOL.
 
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