Attention previous Ness mains: bad news.

[Levitas]

Jeez, it's possible that gameplay developers just determined that it really didn't do anything for characters at this point. It's really a moot point.

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

im thnking they removed it for the same reason they made none of the characters fall very fast in relation to characters in melee:

They wanted to make he game easier for more people to play, and fast fallers and DjC were top causes of noob SDs

 

[NESSBOUNDER]

Oh well. It's not ENTIRELY a bad thing. After all, a bunch of interesting looking possibilities are opening up from Ness being able to attack from his second jump without losing altitude. He's not going to be the aerial master he was in Melee though, which is sad.

 

[Ademisk]

Thankfully, I play Ness from pure fanboyism, so I don't have to care about things like playstyle or movesets or tiers. All I have to care about is a red hat, a red and blue striped shirt, and a yellow backpack. Oh, and that Mr. Saturn T-shirt. That thing is epic.

 

[MarvinTPA]

Pure epic win. Turn off all items except Mr. Saturn while you're at it.
So do we have anything definitive on B DjC?
PK Thunder HAS to stop movement, It's a recovery move. PK Flash also stops movement, at least in Melee.
Are rising PK Fires possible?

Oh ya, Lucas' and Ness' PKT2 take about the same time to execute, I tink. All Lucas players on Youtube currently suck at the timing, so I'm not too sure.

 

[Ademisk]

PK Thunder stops DjC, so does PK Fire. And no, Lucas's PK Thunder 2 is a little slower, but easier to sweetspot by a lot. His PK Thunder is super cheap, it does more at least equal if not more knockback as Ness's PKT, and it does it OVER AND OVER. It's really a kill move, no joke.



Also, people can't airdodge PK Thunder because its tail is soooo ****ing long, it'll actually end up doing MORE damage to them! ^_^

 

[NESSBOUNDER]

Lucas's PK thunder is fabulously abusable.

Ness's PK thunder2 wins though.

 

[SinisterLizard]

What are you guys complaining about? At least he doesn't suck like he did in Melee...

 

[Ademisk]

We're not complaining. I think only Nessbounder was complaining.

 

[Masky]

Ness didn't suck in Melee, he was top tier.

 

[NESSBOUNDER]

Ness never sucked in Melee, Not many people were playing him WELL.

I'm not complaining any more either. It seems that no DJC is actually a good thing. At least he can still swing jump, kinda.

 

[Sinistar]

Does it really matter?

Backwards forward airs, running grabs, short hops are shorter... alot less lag...

I dont see much of a problem honestly.

 

[Ademisk]

short hops aren't shorter. Who the hell told you that?

 

[Levitas]

Marvin, I'll check tomorrow what cancels a double jump in terms of b moves. Seems I get a chance at playing it early, after all.

 

[Ademisk]

Everything B move cancels a double jump.

 

[NESSBOUNDER]

*looks at Ademisk's avatar*

...Which reminds me...Dsgaea 3 should be out in Japan already. I must look into that.

 

[Ademisk]

I knooow, I want! But I'm so poor...****ing PS3....

 

[DekuBoy]

Ness is top tier.

 

[Ademisk]

Laharl is top tier.

 

[NESSBOUNDER]

Of course Laharl is top tier. His only weaknesses Zero Suit Samus and Peach.

 

[Ademisk]

not Zelda?