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Falco is bad in teams. Nerd goes mk while I go diddy. I probably do know the falco matchup better than most diddy players, and nerd and I believe that it's 50-50 or it's 55-45. It isn't a bad matchup for diddy at all. Falco has nothing significant over diddy.Felix and Nerd are close friends and practice primarily with each other. As a result, Felix knows the Falco matchup better than arguably any Diddy (ask DEHF, I believe they played recently), and Nerd knows the Diddy matchup much, much better than any Falco and has excellent banana control, much like a Diddy main.
Because they can both control bananas with such proficiency, they're also arguably the best doubles team in the state.
Both players now believe Falco beats Diddy.
This is also a large part of why I believe Diddy is a character that, while good, gets away with a lot based on people not knowing the matchup. When you are both grounded, Diddy changes the constraints of the game to one in which banana control is the most important skill; and the Diddy player has hundreds of hours of practice in it.
This was a great read. Really enjoyed being able to see how well informed and full of compelling arguments the Backroom really is (With MK/Ally being the only ones really disparaging the total intelligence quotient ).
I do disagree on some aspects probably due to character bias, so I feel Diddy is good where he is. However, many good points were brought up in opposition.
The worst part about discussing Diddy is, it's more theorycrafting than any other character will be. If a Diddy can land a PSNL, if a Diddy can keep control of his bananas, if the opponent has fantastic banana usage. If you're going to incorporate any tier listings based on theorycrafting, then Diddy deserves the same and may even rise a rank.
This piques my curiosity though, since I was under the impression that tier lists were built more on a characters inherent strengths and weaknesses, not so much biased from tournament placements. This thread however, shows a lot of the opposite. That's what motivates my strong acceptance on Diddy's placement; His potential. If we're going strictly by the metagame with little to no consideration of what he can possibly do, then I say let Diddy fall a place or two.
I most be outdated :/ Last time I talked to you each of you guys separately I got "Falco wins" out of itFalco is bad in teams. Nerd goes mk while I go diddy. I probably do know the falco matchup better than most diddy players, and nerd and I believe that it's 50-50 or it's 55-45. It isn't a bad matchup for diddy at all. Falco has nothing significant over diddy.
Keep in mind that tournaments are the only framework from which theorycraft can be demonstrated into reality, and theorycraft is only an attempt to predict tournament potential. Tournaments are the hard fact, and really should be the primary data source, because it's fact as opposed to theory which can be faulty due to human limitations.This piques my curiosity though, since I was under the impression that tier lists were built more on a characters inherent strengths and weaknesses, not so much biased from tournament placements. This thread however, shows a lot of the opposite. That's what motivates my strong acceptance on Diddy's placement; His potential. If we're going strictly by the metagame with little to no consideration of what he can possibly do, then I say let Diddy fall a place or two.
Makes sense then, thanks for the clarification.Keep in mind that tournaments are the only framework from which theorycraft can be demonstrated into reality, and theorycraft is only an attempt to predict tournament potential. Tournaments are the hard fact, and really should be the primary data source, because it's fact as opposed to theory which can be faulty due to human limitations.
Completely wrong. DEHF goes falco in teams, and him and Tyrant took second in Florida.Falco is bad in teams.
You mad ugly ew.Because falco is great when his cg's can be messed up in doubles and his whole playstyle revolves around spacing lasers and getting grabs. not exactly doubles material. tyrant and dehf lost to will and lain back at mlg orlando. Not something that necessarily should have happened. Me and nerd can't beat jem and eggz if we go diddy-falco, but we can as diddy mk just because mk is THIS much better in teams than falco is.
Praxis, hit me up on aim and I'll fill you in on WA since you've left. lol at nerd still going falco in teams hahaha
Go back to the streets man, its yo future anywaysYou mad ugly ew.
youre an obnoxious piece of ****You mad ugly ew.
Pwneroni = eggz? NO WAY. And that statement is entirely false.youre an obnoxious piece of ****
felix is way better looking than you and doesn't wear the same clothes to every tournament
**** east coast
sincerely,eggz
Nope...u throw it that height to where its literally at the ledge/barely below, they cant instant throw it down to kill u.Technically you can Z Catch the Banana and throw it back down/Z drop it back down as Falco, but that is a great attempt. The best thing to do is SDI the spike onstage, or tech the ledge. It's not THAT hard to get all the way to the stage.