Bowser Jr. Videos thread

[Revolution6 aka alterego]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkXGKYf5IVfEAdIwULLBN3eXYaSRU7IQP <- i have a playlist highlights between Moti and myself. Enjoy the goonery. I am not Morton.

 

[Moobussir]

It looks like a ton of people are looking for critique here, and I'm sorry to add to the clutter, but I'd also really like to get some advice on my play.

I'm a Toon Link main but always loved Bowser Jr. (Ludwig), decided to main him since the leak. I've been trying to improve him for a long time, but I just don't feel like I'm optimizing him enough. I'd like some advice if you guys could offer it.

Here's pretty much just a regular old match from my local. I had a great setup at 9:50, obviously messed up at 10:07, but otherwise pretty standard: https://youtu.be/W359Yg23Kjg?t=8m4s

This match was against one of the best players who's come to my local (Though it's Sheik, aren't they all good by default?). No one has taken a game off of him but I was so close, thus I choked a lot of my KO setups. Otherwise, it showcases some of my best work with Ludwig. https://youtu.be/UXCQ5i0kqUo

Thoughts? I think I need to remember D-air is a good move but otherwise any advice is appreciated!

 

[Ridel]

I GIVE YOU LIFE THREAD!!!! Also it's pretty bittersweet to see Ludwig and Palutena in grands.

 

[Ridel]

Wathcing these matches ViceGrip ; why did you opt for the dash attack follow-up out of d-air rather then b-air or f-air?

 

[ViceGrip]

Wathcing these matches ViceGrip ; why did you opt for the dash attack follow-up out of d-air rather then b-air or f-air?

yooo, ahhh u found my grand finals match haha. I hadn't posted that to this thread yet. I usually follow up dash attack after dair because it tends to catch the most people. Like if people are di'ing really well a bair and fair will not work, but a dash attack is likely to work and it does a solid 12%. I Usually react to their DI to decide if I want to bair, fair or dash attack and dash attack just happens to cover people better when they di well. if they dont di well bair is best option. That was a kind of long winded answer but that is why lol.You can also do Dair>hope they are bad and dont tech, depending on their di to try and do a jab lock, but i usually prefer guaranteed low percent combos. Hope you liked that set! TLTC is like my main smash 4 rival haha, our matches are always so heated. recently I got 3rd at a big tournament and I used Lucas and Jr., so soon i'll be dumping a bunch of videos on here, they will also be on the 2GG stream/channel.

Also I owe Lagi a video breakdown and I'll try and do one as a bonus. I'll get to em both this week! Been busy lately but still check smashboards about every day or so.

 

[Abyssal Lagiacrus]

Also I owe Lagi a video breakdown

Good to hear, I really appreciate it

---


On a different topic, dunno if you guys have heard about this yet, but I was tired of dying even though I've teched, so I did experimentation and trying to figure out what happens, and made a video explaining it.

 

[Ridel]

yooo, ahhh u found my grand finals match haha..

Thank the Youtube fillter feature for that. Funny thing is I was looking for Palutena footage from the last month and it just happend to be the first result.

 

[divade]

yooo, ahhh u found my grand finals match haha.

at 2:18 did you mean to bounce the koopa? Either way it's nice to see bounced koopa in a tourney setting.

 

[ViceGrip]

at 2:18 did you mean to bounce the koopa? Either way it's nice to see bounced koopa in a tourney setting.

Yupp, I use bounced mechas quite a bit as they cover more space than just throwing them straight up. they are useful on the ledge or for scaring your opponent to stay in shield if it is bouncing close to them.

 

[pikazz]

https://vine.co/v/eLLWnl2Fiz3

not a combo video but its a good laugh

 

[Dayzin]

Are we allowed to post doubles matches? If not I apologize lol. This took place like a month ago.

 

[Ridel]

If it's a video and it contains a homicidal koopa in pod copter with a clown face then it'a all good man, doubles or not.

 

[Dayzin]

If it's a video and it contains a homicidal koopa in pod copter with a clown face then it'a all good man, doubles or not.

Good to hear lol

 

[FlabbyOrb]

Had one of my tourney sets recorded for once.
highlight of the video is @ 11:55

would greatly appreciate constructive criticism & feedback

 

[divade]

Had one of my tourney sets recorded for once.
highlight of the video is @ 11:55

would greatly appreciate constructive criticism & feedback

Looks good, try to dair instead of uair when you get a kart hit, and they have under 10 Damage. Don't toss your Koopa or spawn a Koopa if the opp is invincible. Real good offstage game on the last stock, (until the very end that this lol) I'd like to see more of that.

 

[Ludiloco]

Hey guys! I don't play Jr. myself but I made a video of some highlights from my friend and crewmate @Yaegerbomb! Check it out. And yes, that is my frog at the end getting absolutely pulverized ;-;

 

[ViceGrip]

Here it is. I definitely do a lot of unsafe things, especially like how I lost the last game. This is against the #1/#2 player in the state. (Him and another guy keep switching on the PR)

Aight man, sorry for the huge delay but I got chu. Here's what I thought of your set, very close set! Your movement is very crisp and you have a good control of the mechas (like picking them up while they walking offscreen and being sneaky with when you throw them). You also use the reelback on the side B very well to dodge attacks, I think that is one of jr.'s main strengths, such good dodge ability due to that reelback. You also use the bomb portion of the up B very well, you would get pretty good use out of that. In general you know the kart>up B confirms percents as well as the Jr. bread and butter kart combos, however at 11:46, 13:50, and 14:54, you use up B awkwardly instead of getting your guaranteed followups. I think when we have the combo confirms, it's better to just go for those, instead of fancy Up B stuff. Also at 11:11 you could have confirmed the kart>up b combo cleanly if you went for it right then. At 1:47 you get spiked by yoshi cause of getup attack, I'm gonna go ahead and say that vs anyone with a spike you should NOT use getup attack, like at all. It's not worth the risk just for a little ledge mixup, we have plenty of other options, our getup is just horrible in the sense it leaves us open to spikes. At 5:05 you do a fantastic gimp, good job! at 15:39 I disagree with using dthrow there. Dthrow is our least damaging throw and yea it gives u time to lay a mecha, but at low percents you should always go for bthrow (straight up damage) uthrow in hopes of getting uair followups, or fthrow if they are gonna be sent offstage. Dthrow I think is purely used for mecha combos or if you think it may kill off the side (but at the same time, if they are high enough to die from dthrow, they are probably high enough to die from uthrow or maybe even fthrow). at 17:39 you throw a mecha at him when he's coming off the ledge, i think throwing a mecha straight up is almost always superior when guarding the ledge, unless you have a strong read on their movement, it's just better to have the mecha cover that space in the air rather than throwing it straight at them. At 17:50 cannon got u killed and put the nail in the coffin. I saw what you were going for there, the ledge cancel and I think you were just barely off, but in my opinion, in last hit situations cannon is almost never appropriate if the enemy is anywhere nearby, it's just too risky.

So in general I think your Jr. is fantastic, definitely worth watching and getting ideas from and it looks like you do well in tourneys overall so that's great. Things to Improve on from what I saw:

1. More safe usage of down B/cannon when coming back to the stage. Try not to use those moves against high mobility characters like zss, sheik, yoshi, and falco.
2. Try using mechakoopa while driving more often, i noticed you pretty much always throw it at them, which works out a lot of the time, but you can mount better pressure sometimes if you drive with mecha in hand, experiment with uses for that, i think that's the main direction mecha pressure is going to develop in. There's only so much pressure u can put on someone by throwing a mecha at them each time.
3. I think your up b trick you do to catch the mecha is cute, but you use it after someone dies and it usually puts you in a not so great position. It reminds me of TLTC, whenever he gets the kill he will ledge cancel a bunch of times and it will usually get him punished by the guy after he respawns.


so yup, great gameplay overall! hope that helped and sorry for the delay. Nice video you posted of Jr.'s glitch, saw that awhile back.

 

[ViceGrip]

Here are my most recent tournament videos! This was a 64 man tourney I managed to place 3rd at, was good tourney!

1. Me vs Wiigi (rank 15 ROB)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF7JL_q805A ---Great set, be sure to watch the first 35 seconds!

2. Me Vs TLTC (rank 19 palutena/corrin)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-aX7E3Oo4E ---for some reason the first game got cut off, i got bodied


Me vs k9 in winners and losers (rank 4 sheik) I tried! I left myself open too much with down B, whoops.

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-xBtR6hh5U

4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXr3p4YdyIc


also here's a bonus clip of me playing Lucas vs Pikachu, I much prefer that matchup over Jr.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUk_3yND144

and I don't know if this is allowed or not but I made a twitter today if anyone wants to follow, it's @ViceGripSSB4

Thanks everyone!

 

[Abyssal Lagiacrus]

-Long post-

Hey dude, thank you sincerely for analyzing my set and giving such constructive and detailed feedback and criticism. This will help me greatly in the future, and I look forward to applying what you have suggested.

 

[Moobussir]

It's probably a bit of a bad time to repost this, what with 1.1.5 just coming out (No grab buff? Really? They buffed Greninja's slow non-tether grab, but not Jr.'s? Anyway...)

Regardless, my message kinda got left behind, and I was hoping to get some advice on my play. I'm considering upgrading Ludwig to secondary status, but it depends on what I need to fix to make him better. If anyone can offer advice, that'd be much appreciated!

It looks like a ton of people are looking for critique here, and I'm sorry to add to the clutter, but I'd also really like to get some advice on my play.

I'm a Toon Link main but always loved Bowser Jr. (Ludwig), decided to main him since the leak. I've been trying to improve him for a long time, but I just don't feel like I'm optimizing him enough. I'd like some advice if you guys could offer it.

Here's pretty much just a regular old match from my local. I had a great setup at 9:50, obviously messed up at 10:07, but otherwise pretty standard: https://youtu.be/W359Yg23Kjg?t=8m4s

This match was against one of the best players who's come to my local (Though it's Sheik, aren't they all good by default?). No one has taken a game off of him but I was so close, thus I choked a lot of my KO setups. Otherwise, it showcases some of my best work with Ludwig. https://youtu.be/UXCQ5i0kqUo

Thoughts? I think I need to remember D-air is a good move but otherwise any advice is appreciated!

 

[Ridel]

I love digging through ViceGrip's stuff.

ViceGrip VS WiiGi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF7JL_q805A

ViceGrip VS TLTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-aX7E3Oo4E

ViceGrip VS K9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-xBtR6hh5U


ViceGrip dude I see some sort of improvement every set I see, it's actually kind of amazing.

 

[ViceGrip]

I love digging through ViceGrip's stuff.

ViceGrip VS WiiGi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF7JL_q805A

ViceGrip VS TLTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-aX7E3Oo4E

ViceGrip VS K9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-xBtR6hh5U


ViceGrip dude I see some sort of improvement every set I see, it's actually kind of amazing.

<3. thanks! trying to keep learning and using more tricks, especially with mechakoopas. has anyone figured any good trump tricks? I know if we can trump perfectly our bair works, but the timing is so strict I don't like it.

 

[aircaves]

So I havent been active but my school puts up videos of our local tournaments every week and I'm in them practically every week (Benefits of being one of the best players there) but these are the one's from last week. ANY critique would be useful:

Vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ldz8_axROY&list=PLqnYwmkONec0dHPApw8qn99H1ArIt4-2c&index=3

Vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyY2t1I-Hnk&list=PLqnYwmkONec0dHPApw8qn99H1ArIt4-2c&index=10

 

[Dayzin]

Looking for critiques on these vids

 

[ViceGrip]

^^^ oo imma watch these videos, you got to fight ray kalm, nice.

I have two recent bowser jr. videos for you guys. They are both good matches and I just figured I'd post em up for anyone interested. If champ ever uploads the stream for MSM 49 I'll have 3 more videos coming as well.


Me vs Arrow (a Link friendly): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y48p0EtL3Gw

Me vs Sad Potato (pre-patch bayonetta tournament match) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoVnBNkpks Check out 12:27 for a cool combo!

 

[Dayzin]

Ya raykalm was a difficult match lol, I have another difficult match here...One day Ill get a win lol.

 

[ProofByContrapositive]

Recent sets from CATI 3 in Austin, Tx. 13th out of ~100.

Pools Winners Semis vs Mikeffect (Ness)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXm-p-YUBhI

Pools Winners Finals vs Gnes (Toon Link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjWuulkHqUw

Bracket Round 1 vs Asa (Ness)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhjBmpWgJLY

And then I got shrekd by Mew2 and Whiteout (DDD).
I have a super hard time with Mewtwo, and goddang I gotta find a way around the bair baits and gordo ledge traps from DDD.
They were baaaad losses haha.

 

[WalrusBiscuit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kh3QLOX3fk

 

[krazyzyko]

Jade vs Trela(Ryu)

https://youtu.be/Q6eqhPLjDhg

 

[Dcas]

Hey guys, got third at this local tourney beating one of the top 3 players. He was incredibly defensive but managed to play even safer.

PD: it´s a tourney from Costa Rica, so it´s in spanish.

 

[Dayzin]

Just dropping this here

 

[Saltyman]

More guides coming soon..​

 

[Weruop]

Placed 3rd outta 90 something tonight!

I got a few good sets recorded on stream, including my sets w 1st and 2nd place ("Pyreeze" & also from WA, "Slamjammington"). Wish I coulda got Losers finals too against 2nd place champ who came back to beat me in a 2-3 last hit run-back on losers side.

Posting link shortly

Update: Tri Town Throwdown 2 https://www.twitch.tv/huffleyourpuff

 

[krazyzyko]

Critique my Larry please:
https://youtu.be/ZHudeQy9Gi0
https://youtu.be/wpZVFXLEpsQ
https://youtu.be/TXIbPZo-XnM

Edit: Added more links