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Ftilt-uses

Z1GMA

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These boards are pretty much dead atm, so let's talk about something random:

Ftilt is a great KO-move considering it only takes 10 frames for it to come out.
Deals about 13% damage.

Outside of killing with it, what are your thoughts on this move?
Shieldstun... Shield Push... Defense... Well, pretty much anything.
 

Z1GMA

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I Shield Stab surprisingly often with Ftilt.
Like 5 times easier than with Jab & Dtilt.
 

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The animation is really funny and cool.
Frame 10? That isn't bad at all. That isn't such a bad Oos thing at all then. Same speed as DK's down smash.
 

A2ZOMG

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The only problem with F-tilt is that its range is deceptively bad, since Ganondorf's body is leaning backwards as he balances on one leg.

You can occasionally anti-air jumps on anticipation with it. Learning the time and positioning for punishing out of shield with it is very valuable (although D-tilt is usually better due to its range).
 

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Spartakick someone of the ledge is the meaning of life.
 

Z1GMA

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The animation is really funny and cool.
Frame 10? That isn't bad at all. That isn't such a bad Oos thing at all then. Same speed as DK's down smash.
F-tilt takes only 2 frames more than jab to come out? lol.
Yes, frame 10.
Where have you guys been sleepin', haha?

Well, it isn't a *great* OoS Option, but it works good as an OoS when you take a semi-laggy attack on your sheild.
Also, if you aren't already using is as an OoS Punisher Vs ppl's Climb-up Attacks, start doing it.

A2, do you know anything about those mysterious Shield Stabs I mentioned?
Mind sharing a little info on Shield Stabbing in general?
I realized I don't know that much about Shield Stabbing in-depth.
I just know that it hits exposed Body parts.
 

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I dunno, do you have any videos of specific situations where you shield stab with F-tilt? I don't see anything special about it. I'm pretty sure the rule about shieldstabbing is simply making sure there isn't a single hitbox touching shield when you aim at a character's hurtbox. It's by far easiest to do with lingering aerials (especially multihitters) or low hitting attacks.

Sometimes I feel people may randomly panic and drop shield against F-tilts in the right situation. idk honestly though.
 

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People usually drop their shields if you wait just a sec before attacking thinking that you'll attack them ASAP.

Mindgames >:D
 

Z1GMA

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Then, maybe it's because of Ftilt's poor range (compaired to Jab/Dtilt).
The opponent overestimating Ganon's range is what Shield Stabs them, hah.
 

Noobicidal

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F-tilt is fun to use during the IASA frames of U-Smash, especially if they shield the smash and try to approach to punish the "lag".
 
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