Help Finding/modifying Shield Origin

[Ripple]

I want to find these so I can make power shield with certain characters easier such as DK, or Bowser. currently we only know how to make shield size bigger, but that really doesn't help too much. an example would be pika. his tail doesn't get covered by his shield but if we make his shield big enough to cover his tail it becomes impossible to poke him from the front because he's got a huge shield.

the only thing I've figured out so far is that you can actually view where the origin is by going into debug mode and holding R and hitting left on the D-pad until a little white circle appears on each character

 

[Toomai]

If it's anything like Brawl, shields are attached to a bone that is animated into place during shielding animations. If that's the case you're out of luck until animations are decoded - unless one of the mystery character attributes is the index of this bone, which would allow you to change the attachment point (but this would be restricted to where existing bones are during shielding animations and would probably ruin shield shifting).

 

[Ripple]

what are the mystery character attributes? do we have a list of them?

I'd still like to look into this.

from what I know about bone invincibility, the pelvis is bone #16 (10 in hex). I'm not sure about others but the same bone appears to be used for every character

 

[Toomai]

The attributes table is here. Looking at it, there aren't any candidates for a "shield bone" attribute other than maybe 016c.

 

[Ripple]

What's "bubble ratio"?

Also, why not attribute 9c? All of them are 16. Same as the pelvis bone

 

[Toomai]

I find it rather unlikely that shields are attached to this pelvis bone as they don't move with it 1:1 when you shield-shift. In addition, it's not true that bone 16 is pelvis for all characters, because for DK it's right upper leg, for Bowser it's right lower leg, and for Pichu it's head.

Also bubble ratio is how much characters are shrunk when in the offscreen magnifier.

 

[Ripple]

Well that sucks.

Is there anyone actively working to decode animations?

 

[standardtoaster]

nop e

 

[Toomai]

Well that sucks.

Is there anyone actively working to decode animations?

nop e

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[Achilles1515]

*Starfox announcer voice*

Good Luck....