Kill percentages of No-Throw Spikes

[JustNoOne]

I decided to see at what percent does a no-throw spike guarantee a kill so I decided to test it out.

This was done all on Final Destination, the right side of the stage, I did all of this in Training Mode except for Zero Suit Samus since I could not get her in training mode. All of the No-Throw Spikes are fresh attacks, I also used DI when hitting the characters with the no-throw spike to survive and get accurate results, of course my DI isn't that good or the bad so if you think there's something wrong, please do it and inform me, also if possible, show me with a video. (Please, I make mistakes as well.)

I tested it out in this order:

1. Grab over the ledge
2. Jump and spike with Nana's Fair
3. Jump with the character being spiked
4. Recover with speicals and whatnots

I did not use a bomb for Link or Toon Link since really... idk I got lazy? Also I didn't use a full fart for Wario since that's basically a free recovery so I found the percent where it guarantees that he won't move until he surpasses the boundary; same with ROB.

I was surprised at the result of this, honestly I didn't expect this too kill as low as 49% or kill as high as a whooping 197%! I'll list them in order of percentage kill and than alphabetical order. I'll also tell you what I did to make them recover at the end.



Percentage Order:

Wolf: 49%
Peach: 50%
Ice Climber (Solo of course :3): 54%
Pit: 68%
Meta Knight: 69%
Link: 71%
Donkey Kong: 72%
Mario: 73%
Squirtle: 75%
Sheik: 76%
Bowser: 77%
Charizard: 82%
Ike: 82%
Marth: 87%
Ganondorf: 88%
Falco: 89%
Fox: 91%
Captain Falcon: 92%
Zelda: 93%
Game and Watch: 94%
Ness: 95%
Samus: 96%
Diddy Kong: 98%
Kirby: 98%
Jigglypuff: 99%
Toon Link: 99%
Sonic: 101%
Lucas: 103%
King Dedede: 106%
Lucario: 107%
Snake: 107%
Luigi: 108%
ROB: 111%
Wario: 113%
Yoshi: 123%
Zero Suit Samus: 171%
Ivysaur: 190%
Olimar: 197%

Aplhabetical Order:

Bowser: 77%
Captain Falcon: 92%
Charizard: 82%
Diddy Kong: 98%
Donkey Kong: 72%
Falco: 89%
Fox: 91%
Game and Watch: 94%
Ganondorf: 88%
Ice Climbers (Solo): 54%
Ike: 82%
Ivsaur: 190%
Jigglypuff: 99%
King Dedede: 106%
Kirby: 98%
Link: 71%
Lucario: 107%
Lucas: 103%
Mario: 73%
Marth: 87%
Meta Knight: 69%
Ness: 95%
Olimar: 197%
Peach: 50%
Pikachu: 97%
Pit: 68%
Squritle: 75%
Charizard: 82%
ROB: 111%
Samus: 96%
Sheik: 76%
Snake: 107%
Sonic: 101%
Toon Link: 99%
Wario: 111%
Wolf: 49%
Yoshi: 123%
Zelda: 93%
Zero Suit Samus: 171%

What I did to recover:

Bowser: Jump and Up-B
Captain Falcon: Jump and Up-B
Charizard: Jump and Up-B
Diddy Kong: Jump and Charged Up-B
Donkey Kong: Jump and Up-B
Falco: Jump and Up-B
Fox: Jump and Up-B
Game and Watch: Jump and Up-B
Ice Climbers (Solo): Jump and Up-B
Ike: Jump and Up-B
Ivysaur: Jump and Up-B
Jiggypuff: As much jumps as I could
King Dedede: As much jumps as I could
Kirby: As much jumps as I could
Link Jump and Up-B
Lucario: Jump and Up-B (Way to far down to do a wall jump)
Lucas: Jump and Up-B (Tried to aim it well)
Luigi: Nothing since when he jumps, down-b and up-b, that's more than enough vertical height
Mario: Jump and Up-B (Way to far down to do a wall jump)
Marth: 87%
Meta Knight: As much jumps as I could
Ness: Jump and Up-B (Tried to aim it well)
Olimar: Jump and Up-B
Peach: Jump and Up-B
Pit: Jump and Up-B
ROB: Jump and Up-B
Samus: Jump and Up-B
Sheik: Jump and Up-B
Snake: Jump and Up-B
Sonic: Jump and Up-B
Squirtle: Jump and Up-B
Toon Link: Jump and Up-B
Wario: Jump, Bike and get off
Wolf: Jump and Up-B
Yoshi: Jump and Up-B
Zelda: Jump and Up-B
Zero Suit Samus: Jump and Up-B

Again I make mistakes so if anyone can help me correct this it would be appreciated.

 

[momochuu]

They can DI back onstage or tech the stage or whatever. That's why spiking them off generally isn't a good idea. Nice thread though if said person doesn't know how to do either of those things. x.o

 

[lain]

What the woman said

 

[JustNoOne]

Well I got bored... At least this was interesting to know :3

 

[SuSa]

What the woman said.... not talking about KawaiiBunny!

 

[Hylian]

Also, they can mash out pretty easily from a NT spike before 80%.

 

[r3d d09]

Try using glide on the glide'able chars. Pit and MK mostly. I'm sure something will come up to where they live at a higher percentage...sadly.