Mirror Shield Combo Escape ("Nice try!")

[Liquid Brick]

So I'm back, but I bring important news. Last night during a smashfest, a friend as Fox U-throw U-air'd me at kill % only I managed to SDI the throw and pulled out a quick down-B, causing Fox's U-air to bounce off the Shield (weird I know).
I can't test if this is reliable or not right now as I don't have a partner to go to the lab with, but it ended up working 3/4 times I used it (the only time it failed to work was without SDI on the throw at about 175%). If there is anyone with a buddy to practice this with, I strongly suggest you start checking it out now! It's a possible option to save face against one of Fox's best killing options, thus making the match-up even more advantageous in your favor. Again, I'm not sure if the actual mirror reflects the U-air of if it is down-B's start-up armor that causes this to work, but either way I have some strong hopes. Good luck and have fun! :D

 

[CeLL]

I'm not sure what you mean by SDIing a throw.

 

[Liquid Brick]

Sorry, I meant SDI the 1st hit of Fox's U-Air, not his throw. Aside from that, I've had a chance to play against Fox more, and it seems this only works when you are below kill % anyway, so it's not very beneficial. It's better to just not get grabbed in the 1st place lol.

 

[CeLL]

Sorry, I meant SDI the 1st hit of Fox's U-Air, not his throw. Aside from that, I've had a chance to play against Fox more, and it seems this only works when you are below kill % anyway, so it's not very beneficial. It's better to just not get grabbed in the 1st place lol.

That makes sense now. But any character can SDI the first hit to avoid the second.

http://smashboards.com/threads/how-to-sdi-foxs-u-throw-u-air-and-not-die.217426/

11/10 best guide ever.

 

[bksbestbwoy]

In general, I feel like people don't use the reflective/turn around ability of this move enough in P:M. There's some really evil/silly **** you can do with it, especially against certain approaches and recoveries.

 

[Red Rice]

Does the mirror turn people around in their recovery like Mario/Doc's cape? Because I've tried on a CPU for about 5 mins and all I got was a Fox that pushed me back

 

[bksbestbwoy]

Does the mirror turn people around in their recovery like Mario/Doc's cape? Because I've tried on a CPU for about 5 mins and all I got was a Fox that pushed me back

It does but only on a move that makes physical contact with the shield and only during the first few frames that it's pulled out (look at the glimmer/flashes of light when the shield is first pulled out, that's the timing for it).

 

[CeLL]

Does the mirror turn people around in their recovery like Mario/Doc's cape? Because I've tried on a CPU for about 5 mins and all I got was a Fox that pushed me back

As far as I know, it can turn around any recovery. Maybe, and I mean maybe, not Mewtwo's. But, as stated above, only in the initial frames.

 

[Chesstiger2612]

Generally nair is a better combo breaker it is 2 frames faster than down-B. If nair is outspaced though or the angle is different you have got a chance.
In the case of Fox' up-throw up-air it should not work. If you can down-B before the up-air jumping out would be better and it is impossible between the two hits.