Reverse Aerial Side B

[AkashSky]

I noticed you can reverse the auraspheres on lucario. Can you do the same for the aerial force palm?

For example, you are recovering on to the stage, and your opponent jumps up to you to edge guard, can you grab them with a side b but then reverse it so that if you super charge the side b they get sent flying down off the stage at an angle?

I'm not sure if this is possible or even has ever been done, but if so can you tell me the button inputs so i can do this? I done it a bunch of times non-reversed but it just throws the enemy back onto the stage.

 

[Darkgun]

It is indeed possible to reverse Force Palm. In fact, it can be Reversed (or reverseB'd, as I sometimes refer to it), BReversed, and Wavebounced, giving it a pretty diverse set of movement options. I, for example, wavebounce FP in attempts to punish high recoveries while edgeguarding in a manner that won't put me well and away offstage.

To do these with a sideB: (Facing and moving right on all examples, for consistency sake. Directional inputs align with facing, and thus be mirrored of this if facing left.)
• Normal: (In Air) ->B. Lucario ends moving right, facing right.
• Reverse: (In Air) <-B. Lucario ends moving right, facing left.
• BReverse: (In Air/Ground) ->B + <-. Lucario ends moving left, facing left. [Note: The timing on this takes a bit to get down, as the window for the reverse input (<-) is... I think three frames. Honestly, it will probably feel like ->B<-, the input will be so fast.]
• Wavebounce: (In Air) <- + [<-]B + ->. Lucario ends moving left, facing right. [Note: More sharp timing. Second left input shown here can be compressed into the first left input due to inputs required to perform sideB. Wavebounce = Reversed BReverse.]

 

[ViewtifulHoe242]

so in theory, i could do a drop off jump from the ledge, snatch them with a EX side b and turn it the other way to spike them off the stage?

 

[Darkgun]

Note that Force Palm is reversed before the grab occurs, so in that scenario, you'd drop jump [forward onto the stage], then reverse FP as you begin to cross through your opponent, and, assuming you are still in the air, you can indeed throw your opponent down off the stage, assuming the two of you are close enough. Sadly, you are unable to reverse after the grab.

 

[AkashSky]

Oh ok so it has to be reversed before hand