why is there such a drought of Bowser JR.'s

[Mr Moosebones]

Being able to shield cancel side b would probably be enough to move him from low/low-mid to high mid all on its own with no other changes.

EDIT: If 3-4 was the lowest I don't think he would be much higher than 5.

 

[KawaiiPiranha]

I don't get why more people don't play him.
I personally think he's the most fun character on the roster. That Up B is one of my favorite moves in the whole series.

 

[Xzsmmc]

I don't get why more people don't play him.
I personally think he's the most fun character on the roster. That Up B is one of my favorite moves in the whole series.

He's super fun, but let's be honest with ourselves, he's not very good. That alone is a reason that discourages people from using him.

 

[Dcas]

He is has a high learning curve, entry lvl and advance lvl. And the reward for mastering Bjr isnt that great. That alone should keep 80% of the people. If you add that his recovery can be gimmicked, his useless neutral B, his horrible grab, his bad moving speed ( beside clown kart) and the fact that shields basically neutralizes Bjr.

Dont get me wrong, i only play bjr, i totally love his playing style but we gotta be objective, he is a mid tier.

Also, Tweek is a great player but if you observe some of his matches you can see some people loses not only to Tweeks awesome skill but also to the lack of knowledge of the MU. Once you know the MU, bjr reaaaallly struggles.

 

[Kryver98]

He is has a high learning curve, entry lvl and advance lvl. And the reward for mastering Bjr isnt that great. That alone should keep 80% of the people. If you add that his recovery can be gimmicked, his useless neutral B, his horrible grab, his bad moving speed ( beside clown kart) and the fact that shields basically neutralizes Bjr.

Dont get me wrong, i only play bjr, i totally love his playing style but we gotta be objective, he is a mid tier.

Also, Tweek is a great player but if you observe some of his matches you can see some people loses not only to Tweeks awesome skill but also to the lack of knowledge of the MU. Once you know the MU, bjr reaaaallly struggles.

Thank you. I cannot stress enough how people who don't learn to adapt and play against Jr.'s BnBs typically get destroyed, even though it's so very easy to punish some of his common moves.

 

[Kryver98]

BowJow's grabbing game is not that bad if you place your set-ups correctly. For instance, when you release a mecha, your opponent is very likely to shield once he/she sees it approaching. There's a relatively guaranteed grab for you (depending on how you chase the mecha and anticipate your opponents move). Yes, his grab is laggy and has no true combos at any given %, but it is not complete trash. I find it more reliable than others (Pac-man, for example).

I must admit that I never used Jr's grab before, but with practice, I learned to condition my opponent to shield by pressuring with the help of my mecha, so I can land my grabs with relative ease.

With all that said, having a combo out of downthrow for example (changing the angle) would be fantastic. And buffing back throw (our only "kill throw").

Yes. If you send out your un-punishable Mechakoopa, your opponent will Shield, and that GUARANTEES you a free grab. Because you're playing a For Glory player. Not a competent player who knows that you can grab the MK, or hell, jump over it. Especially since Bowser Jr. has such a fantastic grab. It's a practically fool-proof strategy.

 

[Mr Moosebones]

Lol this dude is harsher than I am.

 

[pikazz]

Lol this dude is harsher than I am.

wow, someone actually took your spot as the face in the descriptions of the word harsh in the dictionary


the drought for Jr might actually be for our favor but sadly its will not wear that long.
that is that many people are really comfy about the MUs in the high tier list, but when it comes to character they have never faced it will make them really uncomfortable. as the Meta Grow aswell as the MUs, the surprice factor of Jr will in time be less and less effective

 

[xDizxy]

Don't forget about the fact that Sakurai completely ignores jr in terms of buffs and focuses solely on ike.

 

[UberMadman]

Don't forget about the fact that Sakurai completely ignores jr in terms of buffs and focuses solely on ike.

That's not true!

...He buffed Cannonball...

 

[xDizxy]

That's not true!

...He buffed Cannonball...

LOL WTF USES CANNONBALL? I was talking about major buffs like a kill throw or less laggy grab etc.

 

[pikazz]

LOL WTF USES CANNONBALL? I was talking about major buffs like a kill throw or less laggy grab etc.

pretty sure he was sarcasm/said in agony

however, Cannon Ball do have its useages. however those useages are so low its really hard to actually use them. the 3 things I can think of: against Vertical Moves (Luigis and Ikes SideB example), for Stylish points (its more cooler to kill the opponent with a worse move than normally is and that brings shame on the opponent) and for surprice random cannon ball

 

[xDizxy]

pretty sure he was sarcasm/said in agony

however, Cannon Ball do have its useages. however those useages are so low its really hard to actually use them. the 3 things I can think of: against Vertical Moves (Luigis and Ikes SideB example), for Stylish points (its more cooler to kill the opponent with a worse move than normally is and that brings shame on the opponent) and for surprice random cannon ball

I really wish air cannon was storeable like fludd. Would make it a lot better.