LuCKy
Smash Master
why do people call him gay?.......................................nothing more just give me some real reasons someone please tell me?
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Only waveshining? Have you ever watched any of his videos? And by videos, I mean matches, not zomg "SHINED BLIND" and "DBR EVOLUTION". I have a lot of his videos saved on my computer, and he's pretty dam.n good, tech ability aside. Zel has very quick reaction speed, and is quite a consistent player. He does way more than just waveshine, believe me. And also, don't say he's easy to beat if you haven't played him.well, from what i know, zel basically can only waveshine, and thats basically his whole strategy. i have never heard anyone call him gay, but i know many people saying he sucks, which i think is true. I doubt it would be hard to beat him compared to people like CKit or especially any of the top foxes (KDJ, M2K, Chillen, ect). 6th in SoCal isnt that great i dont think. That puts him behind who exactly? Isnt Ken/Isai NoCal?
yes i have seen some of his vids. he doesnt play fox in the way that i think is most effective. most of what he does seems like he wants to get them into a shine to do something. Its like the shine is an appetizer but zel is trying to serve it as the main course.Only waveshining? Have you ever watched any of his videos? And by videos, I mean matches, not zomg "SHINED BLIND" and "DBR EVOLUTION". I have a lot of his videos saved on my computer, and he's pretty dam.n good, tech ability aside. Zel has very quick reaction speed, and is quite a consistent player. He does way more than just waveshine, believe me. And also, don't say he's easy to beat if you haven't played him.
That's because it is. Zel uses it effectively enough that he can use it for 50% of the attacks he uses in a fight. And it works very well against some characters.yes i have seen some of his vids. he doesnt play fox in the way that i think is most effective. most of what he does seems like he wants to get them into a shine to do something. Its like the shine is an appetizer but zel is trying to serve it as the main course.
Quoted for utter truth.Zelgadis is probably the reason why all noob fox players have no idea how to edge guard.
Then again, isn't that why they're noobs?Zelgadis is probably the reason why all noob fox players have no idea how to edge guard.
its not that he uses the shine ineffectively, its the fact that the shine isnt the most effective move to use. It does 5 damage, and pushes them down and away. if it wasnt for wavedashes, it would probably be considered the worst comboing move in the game. Even with it, you have basically 2 options on most characters: grab or usmash. On somechars you get a 3rd option, another shine.That's because it is. Zel uses it effectively enough that he can use it for 50% of the attacks he uses in a fight. And it works very well against some characters.
Alright, I'll go through your post point by point.1: its not that he uses the shine ineffectively, its the fact that the shine isnt the most effective move to use. It does 5 damage, and pushes them down and away. if it wasnt for wavedashes, it would probably be considered the worst comboing move in the game.
2: Even with it, you have basically 2 options on most characters: grab or usmash. On somechars you get a 3rd option, another shine.
3: waveshining only works against 1 tourney level char; peach. You cannot waveshine a ganon or cf that knows how to DI.
4: The only reason he is a known fox is because he has 2 combo vids that are flashy and well known. That doesnt make him a good fox.
Sveet said it here:Who said falcon can't be Waveshined? He's one of the easiest to rapeshine combo into an edge guard
waveshining only works against 1 tourney level char; peach. You cannot waveshine a ganon or cf that knows how to DI.