The Rebooted Evolving SSB Roster Game

[Pupp135]

Here are the rosters

Pupp135
(Toad)(Toadette)(Waluigi)
(Skull Kid)(/)
(Tinkaton)(K K Slider)
(Octoling)(Oatchi)(Ring Fit Trainee)
(Amy Rose)(Chun-Li)(Crash)(Rayman)(Tidus)(Dante)(Sans)

BritishGuy54
[Waluigi][Paper Mario]
[Funky Kong]

[Lyn][Ring Fit]
[Alvis](//Pneuma)[Malos][Noah][Matthew]


[Isaac][Dr. Eggman][Chun-Li]
[KOS-MOS]
[Rayman]

nirvanafan




(King Rauru)(Ravio)(Ganon)(Sami)(Ayumi)
(Alear)(Anna)(Jr. Whispy & Kracko)
(Gholdengo)(Diancie)(Arceus)(Gardevoir)
(Nooklings)(KK Slider)(Oatchi)(DJ Octavio)
(FR Rex)(Dragaux)(Shadow)(Eggman)(Tails)
(Knuckles)(Kiryu)(Nights)(Arle)
(Kefka)(Bartz)(Cid FF14)(2B)(Chun Li)
(Dante)(Phoenix Wright)(Kos-Mos)
(Yoshimitsu)(Crash)(Dingodile)
(Master Chief)(Vault Boy)(Axel Steel)
(Lara Croft)(Hayabusa)(Sub-Zero)(Reimu)

BowserKing
Fawful, King Boo, Geno,
Dixie Kong, Birdo, Ashley, Midna and Mipha
Urbosa, Dark Meta Knight, Adeleine and Susie
Krystal, Glaceon and Sylveon
Archeops, Boltund, Frosmoth, Dragapult, Overquil, Baxcalibur,
Viridi,
Starfy, Tails, Dr.Eggman, Chun Li, E.V.O Protagonist (Called creature) and
Shantae and Ray-Man

Otoad64
(Captain Toad)(Waluigi)(Paper Mario)(Cranky Kong)
(Impa)(Tingle)(Midna & Wolf Link)(Raven Beak)(Bandana Dee)(Susie)
(, Grovyle, Totodile)(Gengar)(Heracross)(Garchomp)
(Lyn)(Tom Nook)(Callie & Marie)(Chibi-Robo)(Andy)
(Mike Jones)(Doom Slayer)(Red)(Crash Bandicoot)(Rayman)(Scorpion)

D darkvortex
(Waluigi)
(Impa) (Midna)
(Bananda Waddle Dee) (Krystal)
(Meowscarada) (Gardevoir) (Bewear)
(Lyn) ( \ )(Karate Joe) (Starfy)
(Ring Fit Adventurer) (Tom Nook) (Isaac) (DJ. Octavio)
(Crash Bandicoot) (Spyro) (Master Chief) (Kratos) (Jill Valentine) (Rayman) (2B) (Geno) Doomslayer) (Sans)

DragonRobotKing26
(King Boo) (Ashley)(Waluigi)
Dixie Kong(Raven Beak)(Bandana Waddle Dee)(Adeline & Ribbon)(Deathborn)
(Heracross)(Gardevoir)(Weavile)(Meowscarada)(Tinkaton)
(DJ Octavio)(Porky Minch)(Rex)
(Bomberman)(Arle)(Scorpion)(Crash Bandicoot)(Rayman)(Master Chief)(Kratos)(Heavy (TF2)) (Red (Angry Birds)) (Shovel Knight)(Sans)

Louie G.
(Excitebiker)
(Skull Kid) (Midna) (Mr. Sandman)
(Tom Nook) (Off the Hook)
(Lyn)(Isaac)(Chorus Kids) (Max Brass)
() (Ring Fit) (Solaire) (Arle) (Chun-Li) (Jill)
(Athena) (Hayabusa) (Marina Liteyears) (Master Chief) (Sans)

ninjahmos
(Geno)(Vivian)(Waluigi)
(Skull Kid)(Bandana Waddle Dee)(Krystal)
(Elma)
(Karate Joe)(Isaac)
(Bill Rizer)(Shadow)(Tails)(Knuckles)(Dr. Eggman)(Arle Nadja)(X)(Chun-Li)(Arthur)(Phoenix Wright)(Dante)
(Nightmare)(Tidus)(Crash Bandicoot)(Travis Touchdown)(Rayman)(Doom Slayer)(Ryu Hayabusa)

Vote for your three favorites, where yours is not first.
1. DragonRobotKing
2. OToad64
3. Louie G.

 

[darkvortex]

1. DragonRobotKing
2. OToad64
3. Pupp135

 

[ninjahmos]

1. DragonRobotKing26
2. Otoad64
3. Louie G.

 

[BritishGuy54]

1. Louie G.
2. Myself
3. Otoad64

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

1. Otoad64
2. Myself
3. Louie G.

 

[BowserKing]

1.Britishguy54
2.Mine
3.LouieG

 

[nirvanafan]

darkvortex
Myself
Louie G

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes

Pupp135 1
BritishGuy54 5
nirvanafan 2
BowserKing 2
Otoad64 10
D darkvortex 3
DragonRobotKing26 11
Louie G. 8
ninjahmos

DragonRobotKing26 wins this round (5 points), OToad64 gets second (3 points), and Louie G. got third (1 point).

Spoiler: Leaderboard

1. Louie G. 101
2. OToad64 43
3. Pupp135 29
4. Northsouthmap 21
5. Darkvortex 18
6. Nirvanafan 8
7. DragonRobotKing 11
8. CrusherMania1592 5
9. BritishGuy54, BowserKing 3
11. Ninjahmos 1

Bonus Round: Vote for your three favorite rosters, where everyone’s fighters have returned. Your submission cannot be first.
Pupp135
(Toad)(Toadette)(Waluigi)
(Midna)(Skull Kid)(Veyle)
(Tinkaton)(Bandana Waddle Dee)(Tom Nook)(K K Slider)
(Octoling)(/)(Noah)(Oatchi)(Ring Fit Trainee)
(Isaac)(Bomberman)(Chun-Li)
(Tails)(Amy Rose)(Crash)(Rayman)(Tidus)(Dante)(Master Chief)(Sans)


BritishGuy54
[Waluigi][Paper Mario][Funky Kong]
[Impa]
[Lyn][Alear][Alvis][Rex](//Pneuma)[Malos][Noah][Matthew]
[Meowscarada][Bandana Waddle Dee]
[Octoling][Ring Fit][Isaac][Dr. Eggman][Shadow][Rayman]
[Chun-Li][Zero][KOS-MOS]


nirvanafan
(Captain Toad)
(Impa)(Raven Beak)(Krystal)
(Magalor)(Genesect) (Ushifu)(Big Man)()(Mio)(Spring Man)
(Warrior of Light FFXIV)(M. Bison)(Doom Slayer)(Shantae)
(King Rauru)(Ravio)(Ganon)(Sami)(Ayumi)
(Alear)(Anna)(Jr. Whispy & Kracko)
(Gholdengo)(Diancie)(Arceus)(Gardevoir)
(Nooklings)(KK Slider)(Oatchi)(DJ Octavio)
(FR Rex)(Dragaux)(Shadow)(Eggman)(Tails)
(Knuckles)(Kiryu)(Nights)(Arle)
(Kefka)(Bartz)(Cid FF14)(2B)(Chun Li)
(Dante)(Phoenix Wright)(Kos-Mos)
(Yoshimitsu)(Crash)(Dingodile)
(Master Chief)(Vault Boy)(Axel Steel)
(Lara Croft)(Hayabusa)(Sub-Zero)(Reimu)

BowserKing
(Fawful) (King Boo) (Geno)
(Dixie Kong)(Birdo)(Ashley)(Midna) (Mipha)
(Urbosa)(Dark Meta Knight)(Bandana Waddle Dee) (Adeleine) (Susie)
(Krystal)(Sceptile)(Glaceon)(Excadrill)(Sylveon)
(Archeops)(Boltund) (Frosmoth) (Dragapult) (Overquil) (Baxcalibur) (Tinkaton)
(Viridi)(Tom Nook)
(Starfy)(Tails) (Amy Rose) (Knuckles) (Dr.Eggman) (Zero)(Chun Li)(E.V.O Protagonist (Called creature))(Spider Jockey)
(Shantae) (Rayman)

Otoad64
(Captain Toad)(Waluigi)(Paper Mario)(Ashley)(Dixie Kong)(Cranky Kong)
(Impa)(Tingle)(Midna & Wolf Link)(Raven Beak)(Bandana Dee)(Susie)
(, Grovyle, Totodile)(Gengar)(Heracross)(Garchomp)(Zoroark)(Tinkaton)
(Lyn)(Oatchi)(Tom Nook)()(Callie & Marie)(Dragaux)(Chibi-Robo)(Andy)
(Mike Jones)(Tails)(Shadow)(Zero)(Chun-Li)(Doom Slayer)(Red)(Crash Bandicoot)(Rayman)(Scorpion)

D darkvortex
(Waluigi)(Paper Mario)(Dixie Kong)(Ashley)
(Impa) (Midna) (King Rauru)(Raven Beak) (Porky)
(Bananda Waddle Dee) (Oatchi)(Krystal)
(Meowscarada) (Gardevoir) (Zoroark)(Bewear)
(Lyn) ( \ )(Karate Joe) (Starfy)
(Ring Fit Adventurer) (Tom Nook) (Isaac) (DJ. Octavio) (Sami)
(Chun-Li) (Dr. Eggman)(Alucard) (Crash Bandicoot) (Spyro) (Master Chief) (Kratos) (Jill Valentine) (Rayman) (2B) (Geno) Doomslayer) (Sans)

DragonRobotKing26
(King Boo) (Midna)(Ashley)(Waluigi)
Dixie Kong(Raven Beak)(Bandana Waddle Dee)(Adeline & Ribbon)(Deathborn)
(Krystal)(Heracross)(Gardevoir)(Weavile)(Zoroark)(Hatterene) (Meowscarada)(Tinkaton)
(Octoling)(DJ Octavio)(Porky Minch)(Rex)(Lip)(Isaac)
(Bomberman)(Alucard)(Chun-Li)(Arle)(Tails)(Scorpion)(Crash Bandicoot)(Rayman)(Master Chief)(Kratos)(Heavy (TF2)) (Red (Angry Birds)) (Shovel Knight)(Sans)

Louie G.
(Excitebiker)
(Skull Kid) (Midna) (Mr. Sandman)
(Tom Nook) (Octoling) (Off the Hook) (Oatchi)
(Ogerpon)(Lyn)(Isaac)(Chorus Kids) (Max Brass)
() (Ring Fit) (Solaire) (Tails) (Knuckles) (Arle) (Chun-Li) (Jill)(Leon)
(Athena) (Hayabusa) (Marina Liteyears) (Master Chief) (Sans)

ninjahmos
(Geno)(Vivian)(Dixie Kong)(Waluigi)
(Skull Kid)(Bandana Waddle Dee)(Krystal)
(Quaxly)(Elma)(Ring Fit Trainee)
(Karate Joe)(Isaac)
(Bill Rizer)(Shadow)(Tails)(Knuckles)(Dr. Eggman)(Arle Nadja)(X)(Chun-Li)(Arthur)(Phoenix Wright)(Dante)
(Nightmare)(NiGHTS)(Lara Croft)(Tidus)(Crash Bandicoot)(Kazuma Kiryu)(Master Chief)(Lloyd Irving)(Travis Touchdown)(Rayman)(Doom Slayer)(Ryu Hayabusa)

My vote

1. Louie G.
2. OToad64
3. DragonRobotKing26

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

1. BritishGuy54
2. Darkvortex
3. Myself

 

[ninjahmos]

1. BritishGuy54
2. Louie G.
3. Myself

 

[BritishGuy54]

1. Louie G.
2. Myself
3. Pupp

Also, my roster is still missing Meowscarda, who was one of the few previously cut. And Ness is on my roster twice.

 

[darkvortex]

1. Louie G.
2. Pupp
3. Ninjasmos

 

[BowserKing]

1.Dragonrobotking26
2.Mine (FWI, I’m sure my roaster had Sceptile)
3.Nirvanafan

 

[nirvanafan]

1 Louie G
2 Myself
3 Ninjahmos (darkvortex was a really close 4th)

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes:

Pupp135 3
BritishGuy54 8
nirvanafan 3
BowserKing 2
Otoad64 2
D darkvortex 2
DragonRobotKing26 5
Louie G. 14
ninjahmos 3

Louie G. wins this round, BritishGuy54 gets second, and DragonRobotKing26 got third. Because this is bonus round, I’m going to double the number of points rewarded to each person in the top 3, so Louie G. wins 10 points, BritishGuy54 wins 6 points, and DragonRobotKing26 wins 2 points.

Spoiler: Leaderboard

1. Louie G. 111
2. OToad64 43
3. Pupp135 29
4. Northsouthmap 21
5. Darkvortex 18
6. Nirvanafan 8
7. DragonRobotKing 13
8. BritishGuy64 9
9. CrusherMania1592 5
10. BowserKing 3
11. Ninjahmos 1

I’d like to congratulate Louie G., who won this game for the evolving SSB roster.

(Excitebiker)
(Skull Kid) (Midna) (Mr. Sandman)
(Tom Nook) (Octoling) (Off the Hook) (Oatchi)
(Ogerpon)(Lyn)(Isaac)(Chorus Kids) (Max Brass)
() (Ring Fit) (Solaire) (Tails) (Knuckles) (Arle) (Chun-Li) (Jill)(Leon)
(Athena) (Hayabusa) (Marina Liteyears) (Master Chief) (Sans)

The next game will focus on us revisioning the SSB series rosters, and I’ll start this on Thursday. Please feel free to provide feedback on this thread. Also, does the point format work, or should we add an elimination element to it, like the original thread (eliminated players/late joiners could still participate by building their roster as though they not been eliminated)?

 

[BritishGuy54]

Congrats to Louie G. for winning. It feels the most like a roster that most people can be satisfied with, with a nice balance of first-parties and third-parties, and old and new.

I do think balance was important here, as a few of us (including myself) leaned too hard into certain franchises or third parties in my opinion.

 

[darkvortex]

Really good game, everyone. Had a lot of fun, though I'm not all that happy with my final roster. Congrats to Louie G. for winning! Well deserved.

Will likely sit the next one out unfortunately. Life is pretty busy right now.

 

[Pupp135]

Here is game 3, which will focus on making our own versions of the SSB series rosters.

Round 1: Select 10 Nintendo characters who debuted before 1998.


The original 8 do best showcase the biggest franchises at the time (barring Wario Land), and I have Ness and Marth here as they are more unique than Wario, and F-Zero X wasn’t out yet.

Spoiler: Future Jobs

Round 2: Submit 2 clone like characters
Round 3: Submit 10 veterans and 4 newcomers for E3 2001
Round 4: Add 4 newcomers
Round 5: Add 6 clones.
Round 6: Select 5 Melee Veterans and 4 Nintendo Newcomers for E3 2006
Round 7: Bring Back 3 Veterans
Round 8: Add Three Newcomers

 

[BritishGuy54]

Round 1:

 

[BowserKing]

Just a little something here

 

[nirvanafan]

 

[ninjahmos]

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

1. Mario
2. Link
3. Samus
4. Marth
5. Kirby
6. Fox
7. Pikachu
8. Captain Falcon
9. Pit
10. Ness
11. Little Mac
12. Duck Hunt Duo

 

[HyperSomari64]

 

[Louie G.]

I’d like to congratulate Louie G., who won this game for the evolving SSB roster.

Meant to speak on this the other day, but thank you guys. It was a lot of fun and I'm glad everyone connected with my ideas! I wish we got a bit more time to talk about what you did or didn't like about my roster, but feel free to let me know anyway.

In the meantime I guess it's time to kick off the new game. I'm not certain I'll be able to commit as confidently to this one as I did last time, since I'm gonna be pretty busy soon but we'll give it a shot. I think my general mindset skews pretty grounded, but maybe I'll try to make some bolder moves this time.





First thing to take note of is that Pikachu isn't here. My first subversion is to spin a bit of a different narrative - what if Pokemon had to wait to be added, since it was so hot off the presses overseas at the time? Assuming this roster is sort of evolving in "real time" to account for an alternate universe series growth, perhaps Pokemon is better suited for an addition in Melee after Pokemania. But if we wanna be extra silly, let's say the Pokeball item is still a thing in 64.

Skipping out on Marth because I believe the initial roster should have international appeal. Marth is a great addition to Melee as the roster was expanding, but putting myself in the 1998 mindset it would be a pretty bold move to throw him into such a small batch.

Otherwise, I'm trying to keep a reasonably diverse spread. I think these picks reflect a somewhat varied selection of archetypes, weight class, etc. The new faces are Peach, Little Mac and Wario. Peach provides us with an alternative zoner kit, and an aerial centric character to challenge Kirby. Little Mac carries a more traditional kit, the "boxer" archetype was already quite popular in established fighting games of the time. Maybe he even gets to be retooled off some of the other unused Dragon King animations / concepts. And Wario is kind of a hybrid sumo grappler with maybe some charge moves to boot?

 

[Pupp135]

1. Mario
2. Link
3. Samus
4. Marth
5. Kirby
6. Fox
7. Pikachu
8. Captain Falcon
9. Luigi
10. Ness
11. Little Mac
12. Wario

Please remove two fighters from this list as the number of fighters this round is 10

 

[darkvortex]

 

[Otoad64]

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the rosters
Pupp135



BritishGuy54 / ninjahmos



BowserKing



nirvanafan



DragonRobotKing26 (I took the first 10 fighters from the list)



HyperSomari64



Louie G.



D darkvortex




Otoad64



Vote for your three favorites, where yours is not first
1. DragonRobotKing26
2. BritishGuy/Ninjahmos
3. Nirvanafan

Spoiler: Future Jobs

Round 2: Submit 2 clone like characters
Round 3: Submit 10 veterans and 4 newcomers for E3 2001
Round 4: Add 4 newcomers
Round 5: Add 6 clones.
Round 6: Select 5 Melee Veterans and 4 Nintendo Newcomers for E3 2006
Round 7: Bring Back 3 Veterans
Round 8: Add Three Newcomers

 

[HyperSomari64]

1. darkvortex
2. nirvanafan
3. DragonRobotKing26

 

[BritishGuy54]

1. Louie G.
2. Myself/Ninjahmos
3. Pupp

I kind of like the idea of Pokémon not joining until Melee. Sounds nice.

 

[darkvortex]

1. LouieG
2. BritishGuy/Ninjahmos
3. Nirvanafan

 

[ninjahmos]

1. Louie G.
2. BritishGuy/Myself
3. nirvanafan

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

1. Darkvortex
2. Myself
3. BritishGuy54

 

[BowserKing]

1.Pupp
2.Mine
3.HyperSomari64

 

[Louie G.]

1. Otoad64 - Pretty similar to mine, just with Peach swapped out for Pikachu. I really like the addition of Wario in 64, and I'm glad that other people had the idea to gravitate toward Little Mac as well.
2. Mine
3. Bowserking - I like the flavor that Duck Hunt adds here. I'd rather keep Ness or Falcon around, but I kind of admire the initiative to leave them both off and go for a sillier character alongside another that is quite the opposite (Marth).

Special shoutout to nirvanafan for Little Mac and getting to keep Ness around, but I find it hard to support a roster without Donkey Kong.

 

[nirvanafan]

DragonRobotKing26
Myself
BowserKing

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes
Pupp135 4
BritishGuy54 / ninjahmos 9
BowserKing 4
nirvanafan 7
DragonRobotKing26 9
HyperSomari64 1
Louie G. 11
D darkvortex 6
Otoad64 3

Louie G. wins this round, and BritishGuy54, ninjahmos, and DragonRobotKing26 all tie for second. Louie G. wins 5 wins, and BritishGuy54, ninjahmos, and DragonRobotKing26 win three points.

Job 2: Submit 2 clone/semi-clone fighters.

(Mach Rider)


I find it hard to leave out Luigi on this type of roster given that he is the player two character. For my second clone, I’d love Jigglypuff, and I thought I was a clever choice for a Kirby semi-clone, but I’ll experiment a bit and choose Mach Rider as a Samus semi-clone. (S)he’d work better as a Captain Falcon semi-clone, but this is what happens when Captain Falcon is in my SSB64 roster.

Spoiler: Future Jobs

Round 3: Submit 10 veterans and 4 newcomers for E3 2001
Round 4: Add 4 newcomers
Round 5: Add 6 clones.
Round 6: Select 5 Melee Veterans and 4 Nintendo Newcomers for E3 2006
Round 7: Bring Back 3 Veterans
Round 8: Add Three Newcomers

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

1. Mario
2. Link
3. Samus
4. Marth
5. Kirby
6. Fox
7. Pikachu
8. Captain Falcon
9. Pit
10. Ness
11. Luigi
12. Raichu

 

[ninjahmos]