What advice would you give to deal with MK players atomsk?
Okay first off, you want to stay on the ground a lot. The typical MK approach is sh fair. You easily can shield cancel grab it. Most of MKs approaches are unsafe vs DDD, EXPECIALLY TORNADO. Campier MKs will space tilts. Power shield these and punish them with B-throws. B-throw is extremly good in this match. Its generally good to keep b-throwing him until it starts to do 12%. At this point he should be around late 80s assuming you've hit him with other things lol. This is when you should start to try and either
A) D-throw mix up(will go into predicting these in a bit)
or
B) U-throw
U-throw is very good because a horrible position to be in this game is above someone. Sadly, using brawl+ tatics will work at 0% against most high/top tier characters the first few times you do it. Seibrik taught me this a while ago. At 0% its good to u-throw to u-air most of the top/high tier characters. You should be able to connect with some of another u-air if you do it right afterward. It also forces many characters to airdodge. If you watch in my match vs ADHD on Frigate, I get 2 kills off on him cause I U-throw him when he is at kill %.
When fighting aggresive MKs aka people like Dojo or DMBrandon, the matchup will generally revolve around being a tad more aggresive earlier on. A good approach to MKs or vs any character in general, is to run at them to sh bair. When they're near you and you feel unsafe you have 2 options besides rolling away, shielding, or sidestepping. You can u-tilt whenever you feel unsafe since it'll beat out most things, or you can full jump dair out of shield.
When fighting MKs that will camp you aka teh_spamerer, its much easier to force the MK players to approach you. Gain the % early on from a poke and simply walk away. MKs options aren't very good since mostly everything becomes predictable. Just wait for him to arieal or tilt, and power shield it and b-throw and run to the other side of the stage. Now I understand that this isn't the most entertaining thing to do, but its the most effective.
TORNADO
Tornado is seen as the major reason as to why MK
wins vs DDD. However, once you learn to predict it, its a very easy move to punish. All of the moves I'm about to state will beat the tornado.
Suck from the top
You can pivot grab it
You can grab it when it first starts
All of your smashes will
Gordo will
F-tilt will cancel it when it first starts
Utilt will flat out beat it unless they space it
D-tilt will beat it
Fair from the top will
Dairing from the top onto the middle of it
Bair from the top will
JET HAMMER BEATS THE TORNADO
Nair from the top onto the middle will
However, even though all of those options will beat it, the safest one to do is to just angle your shield up as they tornado you and grab them once it's over. Your shield is amazing. Even when its a small circle it can stand up to the tornado.
EDIT Also shielding 2/3s of the tornado then side stepping the rest of it is great cause its a free punish
D-throw
When you d-throw people, it generally depends on what the skill level of your opponent is as to how you should react to it. Scrubs will either always roll the same direction or get up attack.(I CAN BE WRONG, THEY CAN CHOOSE TO HAVE A BRAIN) Smarter players will tend to mix it up(obviously lol) so here is what i do. I d-throw dash shield. I watch expect them to roll away or get up attack, however I assume that they'll roll behind me too. So anticipating the roll, and reacting to the other options is the best thing IMO. If they try to just lay on the ground you can either Fsmash, Dash attack, or D-tilt. IMO those are the best options and they're what I hit with.
The match up in general is mostly about knowledge of MK and how the character plays. Most MKs when they f-smash your shield when your close will d-smash right after. Just f-tilt him out of it. When they try to d-smash multiple times while next to you just f-tilt or d-tilt them out of it.
D-smash is also very good for killing MK in this match. Since its range is very good, it will hit people trying to space tilts or fairs.
Suck is awesome in this match too. When forced to land on the ground you don't really have many options. However the best ones to do are the
obvious airdodge down, bair before you hit the ground, Suck, or Dair. Those are DDDs only real options while landing. HOWEVER, JET HAMMER ACTUALLY IS GOOD. Jet hammer has a low hit box that is actually a good way to knock people away while trying to land. MKs often time will charge F-smash expecting you to airdodge down into it. Fall Jet hammer is very good against that lol.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ASK ME XD
. I don't really know a whole lot about the Pikachu match since I've only fought Anther when I had no clue what to do. I am just making assumptons given what the character can do camping wise, and recovery.
