Tired of the camping in Brawl? A way to deal with it.

[Dark.Pch]

I see so many thread around here about camping. And its pissing alot of people off. To a point its killing the fun of the game. I dont like it. I'm Peach.....yea, you know Peach players cant stand it nor this much we can do about it. This game is turnip out to be a war game more than a fighting one. But here I have a method of dealing with campers. First a look at Why camping affects us and people lose to it.

- Gets people annoyed. Spam and run. And if your character is slow..your gonna have a hard time landing a good hit.

- It gets on peoples nerves that people just rush. All they care about is hitting the camper. While not even thinking clearly on how to go about it. And you just get hit by everything. And you get more pissed or, and it gets worst.

- Campers know it annoys people. And thats what some want to do. Cause they wanna win. You really think they care you get pissed off. They will do what they have to to win. Tournament they most. they wont care.

- They wanna rack up damage from a distance to play it safe. cause they may not wanna get close to you. You may just rape them in thier faces (not always the case)

The biggest strong point camping has is that it pisses people off. You dont play right when pissed off. Your blind to some things in matches. Well here is the lil method I made for dealing with it. And it has hepled me. So maybe it can help others.

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You just cant let the camping get to you. believe me, that what you will see in brawl. Camping. Our character get it the worst against campy players. So know this I really dont care for losing to one. Cause my character has a hard time with it.

But one way to beat a campy is to piss them off in a fight. I fight a few campers in brawl. So what I did? I let nothing touch m and just played the wierdest mindgames. Camping did not get them very far at all. And I beat them. A campers weakness is getting inside him. Since they depend on that alot, you get inside, just rape them. And if they know how to fight, you just go at it with them and beat thier azzes.

Trust me, I am Peach, I get and see this camping crap all the time. times I lose nerves to even deal with it so I get owned. But when I am on point, I know what to do to get at one, I've beating campy foxes and Falcos in melee. same with Both links.

Toy with thier heads. The great Mike G himself (for thoses that dont know, one of the best Peach players in melee, he dont play much anymore) Told me how to beat one. And it works with Peach.

Inside a camper that is a pattern. Look closely, it may even be obvious. And abuse it when you get inside. But first fight out how to get inside with out getting hit. toy with the guy. Dance around all that is comming at you. Till you can hardly get touched. Then once you cleared mission one, go for mission 2. Dance around the stuff comming at you and get inside. Once you do watch how he reacts. DONT ATTACK. Look at him while being ready to move out the way and all. Also expect him to switch up his reaction.

Once you got that down you around know what to expect. Now mission 3. You find a way to punish him. Mix up mission 1 and 2. Expect anything, him to roll, grab you, or attack you once you get close. Or he may just run away and spam again. Most common from campers. And once you got that down DONT lose your cool no matter what and just **** them up. Repeat mission 1,2, and three till you win. dont matter how long the match last. Go on till you win.


Hope this helps

[Ampleforth]

A good player that camps isn't going to be that predictable either and can toy with you just as easily (probably more easily) than you can with him/her. And my biggest issue with camping is just that it makes the game not fun. Even winning against campers is boring as hell.

[Dark.Pch]

I never said it was gonna be easy. And Yes a good player will make this ever harder. But there is always something you can do. And your job in that Match is to figure what what that is. And campers do have ways to get away from you. You have to figure things out.

And yea it does make the game boring. But what can you do. Let people play as they want. Nothing cant be done but going FTW

[.kR0]

As I said in some other thread.

If you got past Falco's SHL in melee, you shouldn't feel as annoyed.

[Dark.Pch]

Originally Posted by .kR0

As I said in some other thread.

If you got past Falco's SHL in melee, you shouldn't feel as annoyed.

Basiclly. The common problem is people getting annoyed. Thats why people really cant handle camping.I ts not an unbeatable tactic. It can be beating.

[Rapid_Assassin]

Here's why people camp: In every fighting or strategy game ever, camping is the easiest strategy to learn initially. Unless the game sucks in such a way that all you need to do is mash A and walk forward and your opponent can't do anything against it.

How to beat it: Learn how to approach well. If you need help in that, play against a character that's hard to camp against with someone that has no reflector and a mediocre projectile game at best. Is it better to let your % "magically" reach over 150 then run into a truck, or learn to approach all along, and not let that happen to you?

[Boon :o]

In tourneys there's tons of campers, but after the first few rounds they're pretty much gone.
And especially if I ever play Ike and im going against a Pit in a tourney -_-, so much to the point where I refrain from using Ike in R1 of tourneys.
Thanks for the tips on how to deal with campers, I'll try and see how my Ike is against campers now :D

[Jam Stunna]

Brawl rewards camping to an extent that makes it the most viable option for victory. If you want to lose a match, attack more than you shield. Eventually, everyone will realize that, and camping will be the norm.

[ph00tbag]

Originally Posted by Jam Stunna

Brawl rewards camping to an extent that makes it the most viable option for victory. If you want to lose a match, attack more than you shield. Eventually, everyone will realize that, and camping will be the norm.

I was just thinking about this. I was fooling around with Toon Link today, and found out how much all of his projectiles reward you, even if they don't hit, by exposing your opponent to your much more powerful sword. A lot of characters are like this, with highly versatile projectiles that control your opponent's actions, and punish poor positioning.

However, there are still other characters that have the ability to manage campers, like Marth and Luigi. It's all about knowing how to get past the spam.

[Eten]

Yeah camping isn't going to dominate. Really. I like what ph00tbag said, characters can manage campers, like marth and luigi.

It's all about knowing how to get past the spam. Like, heck, luigi can repeat tornado and clang with projectiles to approach an opponent, and that takes little more than repeated use of a down-B move. All you gotta do is know how to get past the spam.

[Vice Lord]

i played a match online today against my first true hardcore camper/projectile spammer (a falco), his movements were pretty much this. roll-roll-roll-roll(to side of stage) laser-laser-laser-laser-laser-laser x 30,(when near) Fsmash-Fsmash-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-Fsmash-Fsmash... well you get the picture. He wasn't that good so i was able to beat him with my marth most times, but i had to work hard and i got down to my last stock, and infact lost a few times too (unless we played on battlefield or luigi's mansion) to this simple and very predictable strategy. Another problem i feel is rolls are too good, i knew when he was going to roll but i couldn't manage to punish it at all most times because there isn't much of a gap between roll invulnerability (slight lag didn't help either) So i understand peoples frustration now.

So yeah, back on topic i agree with you dark.pch, keeping your cool and trying to predict your opponent does help alot, but you are still at a disadvantage, even if just a slight one. Jam Stunna, i really hope it doesnt become the norm, i'm hoping for some crazy new method of approaching to be discovered (like running with a shield on =D.) Crazy dreams of mine =/

[IceEmblem]

This isn't going to heolp us against pro campers.

[Finch]

Everyone who hates camping should just stop playing a game whose mechanics support it over any other strategy.

[MuBa]

Apparently camping IS beatable but it is VERY DIFFICULT to get through making it almost literally pointless to even try getting through their defense. It's like trying to defeat your opponent (armed with a gun) with a knife.

Ugh I say we just ban camping or something =/

I know camping is a legit strategy in pretty much any fighting game but if it's getting THIS annoying then it would be a better idea to ban camping.

[TechnoMonster]

Originally Posted by MuBa

It's like trying to defeat your opponent (armed with a gun) with a knife.

Exactly; you aren't going to do it from across the street, so get in there and fight.