As Falco who is your hardest fight? why?

Yeniths · May 11, 2008

I've noticed there has been a lot of debate to who are Falco's hardest fights. I would like to the general opinion from the Falco community, so please vote, would love to see if the results change over time. Hopefully from the results we can get a understand as to how to fight these characters more effectively, which I'm sure will help everybody.

Also a thank you to blad01 to his official match-up thread, its been helpful, hope he continues it.

Exousia · May 11, 2008

My hardest match ups have to be smaller characters like Olimar, G&W and Ness.

Kirin · May 11, 2008

I'd have to say Meta Knight, for obvious reasons.

hurricane22491 · May 11, 2008

For me it's definitely Game&Watch and Metaknight. You can't recklessly spam lasers at G&W and both of them are a little hard to hit with lasers anyway. Olimar, Pikachu, and Kirby are also troublesome because of their size.

Kirin · May 11, 2008

hurricane22491 said:
You can't recklessly spam lasers at G&W

QFT, darn bucket.

Yeniths · May 11, 2008

That bucket, has caused me so much trouble >_<

Magic777 · May 11, 2008

GW's air game is just annoying for falco... and the bucket doesn't help either
at least shine is pretty effective, if you can hit him in the air with it

Slaysya · May 11, 2008

MK......its like if he gets in your face your a goner. And he outspeeds falco in almost everyway.

Narshen · May 11, 2008

I find Metaknight and G&W to be Falco's toughest match-ups. MK's incredibly tiny, lessening the laser's effectiveness, can gimp his recovery, and has many other good qualitites. G&W is also small, has the bucket for stopping laser spam, and from what I've seen, he beats Falco in the air as well.

Ratherion · May 11, 2008

Ugh. My friend plays a MEAN G&W, he's perfected cathing every single laser >.<

Kirin · May 11, 2008

That sucks Rath. Also yeah, I hate how most lasers will go right over MK's head.

everlasting yayuhzz · May 11, 2008

MK and G&W.

SpeedAcE · May 11, 2008

MK and ICs.

G&W, not so much.

Ratherion · May 11, 2008

Rofl Pwny said:
That sucks Rath.

Bwahaha, just played him, Phantasm > G&W.

BEES · May 11, 2008

I am almost completely certain that Metaknight is the best character in the game. Unless future metagame developments hurt him.

That's unlikely, those tend to make the best characters better along with everyone else.

Ratherion · May 11, 2008

Snake > Metaknight

Snake has won more tournies.
Has better matchups.
And has a good advantage over MK in a 1v1.

Kirin · May 11, 2008

Rath may be right, but they're both really hard match-ups.

zamz · May 11, 2008

Ratherion said:
Snake > Metaknight

Snake has won more tournies.
Has better matchups.
And has a good advantage over MK in a 1v1.

Snake does not have better matchups.

BEES · May 11, 2008

While Snake has won more tournies, he has less top placings overall. He gives Metaknight trouble, but he is the only character that does. Overall, his matchups are a bit worse. Several more characters give him trouble.

Falco gives him trouble.

zzzzzzzzzz · May 11, 2008

you should make it so that each person has 3 votes, it would have a better idea of problem characters for falco. cause alot of people who played against a good MK will most likely vote MK. i have some trouble with pit as well and sometimes wolf, i would like to vote for them also.

Kirin · May 11, 2008

I'm not sure you can make it give more than 1 vote.

Cloak020 · May 11, 2008

For me its Metaknight and G&W, mostly because they are hard to hit with lasers and I have trouble spiking them, since I feel they have awkward recoveries

Spital · May 12, 2008

Pit, dont know what it is about him.. ima blame the fact that he has wings that work

PhantomBrawler · May 12, 2008

wrong....best character=snake...unfortunately

On topic, my toughest matches are MK and G&W as well...with a little wolf thrown in there for good measure..=\

FreakingMethodiC · May 12, 2008

Ratherion said:
Ugh. My friend plays a MEAN G&W, he's perfected cathing every single laser >.<

Last G&W i played i beat, everytime he pulled the bucket and caught a laser he also caught Falco's foot. Then again it was a freindlies tourney and he was a Scrub G&W so i don't really understand your pain completely yet. Although i have an idea at what you're getting at.

Eldiran · May 12, 2008

Definitely Metaknight... mostly because my friend mains him. It makes me sad that Falco is one of the better characters to use against Metaknight, and yet is the one Falco has the most trouble with.

Grrrr *shakes fist at Metaknight*

Blad01 · May 12, 2008

Snake and G&W, defintly.

And maybe also ICs.

homicidalrapist · May 12, 2008

Meta knight should die lol. i voted for zelda cuz din's fire harassment is too much, i have more trouble with MK but everyone probably does.

J4pu · May 13, 2008

Rofl Pwny said:
QFT, darn bucket.

Mind-gamming G&W is the best strat imo, once they are used to your SHDL, do SHFF into w/e you can manage. In order to do this you have to be pretty specific with your spacing tho so that you can attack before the bucket gets put away and arent easily punishable. Once they get used to that just keep switching it up btwn shooting and attacking close range, works really well on my friend who mains G&W although he isn't pro by any stretch of the imagination, decent maybe.
And of course once their bucket is full feel free to go laser crazy

iTz_HaVoC · May 13, 2008

for me it's Meta and GW. Meta traps me in his neutral B and GW traps me in his A Spam. It gets annoying.

Redemption · May 15, 2008

Other than the obvious MK and G&W, I'd say olimar. Even though falco can reflect his pikmin spam, normally a good olimar player EXPECTS this and comes in flying with a perfectly timed, red pikmin Fair. If falco tries to laser camp, olimar will just jump and toss pikmin at you, forcing you to stop and get them off. Oh, and most of his moves have ridiculous range and priority. Honestly, if it wasn't for olimar's gimpable recovery...

Kenrawr · May 16, 2008

To the people that voted wolf, how!!!!!!!11111111111

MK for me -.-

Edit:
Where's your statistics on the snake thing? =/
If it's true, it could be that lots of players can't handle snake >_>

Ratherion · May 16, 2008

So... my friend watched this video And is now godly with IC's...

Shine helps a lot though... a LOT.

BEES said:
While Snake has won more tournies, he has less top placings overall. He gives Metaknight trouble, but he is the only character that does. Overall, his matchups are a bit worse. Several more characters give him trouble.

Really? Interesting...

Vorguen · Jul 10, 2008

BEES said:
I am almost completely certain that Metaknight is the best character in the game. Unless future metagame developments hurt him.

That's unlikely, those tend to make the best characters better along with everyone else.

I'm extremely competitive with most characters and I can win tournaments with any of..

Wolf, Pit, Zelda (not Sheik), Mario, Squirtle, Snake, Falco, Olimar, Diddy Kong... and a few others..

Needle of Juntah · Jul 10, 2008

all the new falco styles lol

SlashTalon · Jul 10, 2008

I've only ever gotten completely owned by G&W, Marth, and IC's (if they know their CG)

MK's never give me too much trouble. You can CG, Spike, Laser and Shine. Standing near MK for more than a second means youre an idiot.

DanGR · Jul 10, 2008

who chose mananddoof? That's the funniest poll I've ever seen.

J4pu · Jul 10, 2008

Pros who go to tournaments will say G@W (he's the Falco counter) less skilled tourney goers will say MK (i guess since he has such a large portion) and people who play for fun will say whatever character their most skilled friend plays.

this poll is pretty pointless, but then again most are, so whatever.

DanGR · Jul 10, 2008

I've played against both GaW and MK. Zelda just gives me the most trouble with the playstyle I use.

Amide · Jul 11, 2008

Apparently MK is a very hard fight for Falco, and I agree, it's the hardest. Falco actually does well against Snake.

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