HizoSturm
Smash Apprentice
and someone in the background watching will yell" hey look he put a C4 on you... watch out."
and the other person didnt notice until now...
and the other person didnt notice until now...
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Snake Q&A
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Kinzer
Mammy
I thought this would bet he best place to ask.
How do you do neutral-B reversals with Snake's Grenades? I think I've had Ken do it to me or I've seen it done but I want to know how to perform it. If I'm not painting a clear picture I'm talking about how Snake can be facing/falling one way, and to quickly face the next he pulls out a Grenade and somehow gets a momentum boost that way too...
For curiosity (SP? shoot my school's computer doesn't have FF) reasons of course, nothing can remedy Homing Attack.
How do you do neutral-B reversals with Snake's Grenades? I think I've had Ken do it to me or I've seen it done but I want to know how to perform it. If I'm not painting a clear picture I'm talking about how Snake can be facing/falling one way, and to quickly face the next he pulls out a Grenade and somehow gets a momentum boost that way too...
For curiosity (SP? shoot my school's computer doesn't have FF) reasons of course, nothing can remedy Homing Attack.
Nic64
Smash Lord
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it's mostly just an issue of timing that you need to practice, learn to do B reversals and then learn to do it in the air while moving forward...so if you're in the air moving right you quickly let the stick back to neutral neutral, hit B, and hit left very fast.
mofo_
Smash Ace
yo how do whats happening in this video? i dont understand the japanese and also japanese characters appear as blocks with 4 numbers in them....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXXIyk_Fb6M&feature=PlayList&p=88638F1FBD3B79D0&index=16
Lawlmahbawls
Smash Journeyman
HizoSturm
Smash Apprentice
Input is possible with under →RorL. It develops from there. If it is under A, it is possible with under →RorL→A. By the way on the stand and in only guard possible state possibility. As for guard cancellation stand getting off RorL -> with under (1/3) possibility.
i used an online translator. lets hope it works.
i used an online translator. lets hope it works.
Ken Neth
Smash Champion
Kinzer!! haha to do that you push b to pull the grenade out and then mash the direction towards snake's back and it will bstick the grenade. I love bsticking.
I'm pretty sure that's brawl+... You can see them crouch cancelling before they do the tilts/smashes/etc.
And I had my friend translate the title for me. he knew everything except for a few characters. So here's what he came up with.
"[SSBB][Smash Bros X] 台降り Cancel (+Guard Cancel 台降り) Application Examples"
He said that 台降り is probably a term coined by their smash community, kind of like how no one outside of smash would know what a "wavedash" is. But he knew what the characters meant individually.
He said 台 means stand or some sort of support. And 降り means to fall or descend. So we assumed that 降り (to fall) was referring to what we consider "crouching" and 台 meant into a standing position. So we came up with 台降り to mean standing position from a crouch, or "crouch canceling."
Plus, the evidence in the video also verifies that 台降り is very likely the japanese term for crouch caceling as well. Dang, I was all excited when I first saw that vid
SuSa
Banned via Administration
I'm 90% sure Naritake Step is NOT for Brawl + .Kinzer!! haha to do that you push b to pull the grenade out and then mash the direction towards snake's back and it will bstick the grenade. I love bsticking.
I'm pretty sure that's brawl+... You can see them crouch cancelling before they do the tilts/smashes/etc.
And I had my friend translate the title for me. he knew everything except for a few characters. So here's what he came up with.
"[SSBB][Smash Bros X] 台降り Cancel (+Guard Cancel 台降り) Application Examples"
He said that 台降り is probably a term coined by their smash community, kind of like how no one outside of smash would know what a "wavedash" is. But he knew what the characters meant individually.
He said 台 means stand or some sort of support. And 降り means to fall or descend. So we assumed that 降り (to fall) was referring to what we consider "crouching" and 台 meant into a standing position. So we came up with 台降り to mean standing position from a crouch, or "crouch canceling."
Plus, the evidence in the video also verifies that 台降り is very likely the japanese term for crouch caceling as well. Dang, I was all excited when I first saw that vid
Sheik can Naritake Step.
Sheik can crouch.
Naritake Step involves crouching.
Snake can crouch.
Snake may be able to Naritake Step? =p
I'll be doing testing when I get my wii...
mofo_
Smash Ace
how do you do naritake step? does that also mean all people who can crouch[or maybe only crawlers] can do naritake step?
SuSa
Banned via Administration
I believe all crouchers can Naritake Step, but its so far only been a Sheik thing.
Check the Sheik Boards and do an Advanced Search for Naritake Step (normal searching gets random results it seems like <_< I ALWAYS do an Advanced Search)
EDIT:
Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg61XaQvqMo&feature=PlayList&p=88638F1FBD3B79D0&index=13
Check the Sheik Boards and do an Advanced Search for Naritake Step (normal searching gets random results it seems like <_< I ALWAYS do an Advanced Search)
EDIT:
Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg61XaQvqMo&feature=PlayList&p=88638F1FBD3B79D0&index=13
HizoSturm
Smash Apprentice
the guy that makes those vids are crazy
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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To me it just looks like a method to do pretty much any attack from a dash that is like a pivot grab or JCUS.
mofo_
Smash Ace
woah its not brawl+ cuz i just did that instant grenade pick up thing.....i did it on my first try but idk how
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Imagine running, and instantly being able to do utilt.
If Naritake Step can be mastered, theres basically no reason to walk anymore.
IxxI
Smash Fence
That would be sweettt.Imagine running, and instantly being able to do utilt.
If Naritake Step can be mastered, theres basically no reason to walk anymore.
I don't know how to do it though, if someone can explain this thoroughly I will be happy.
woody72691
Smash Ace
i need either help or advice. does excuting side tilt and up tile help and does sticky C-4 hints??
IxxI
Smash Fence
Sorry, I don't understand what your trying to say....
woody72691
Smash Ace
side tilts and up tilts do they help and advice on how to do up tilt without doing up smash, and is there hints on sticking your oppent with a C-4
mofo_
Smash Ace
yeah they do help, dont tap up or t-stick, uhhh be close to them when C4 sticking or do it as u dorp thru platform...i dont know a lot about c4 sticking
Ken Neth
Smash Champion
I really hope that snake can do all that stuff in normal brawl. It showed other characters besides just sheik though. If we can get this down that would be extremely helpful. Definitely worth getting down.
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Yah, lets make utilt and grenades even more broken.
Black_Heretic
Smash Lord
Thats the plan XDYah, lets make utilt and grenades even more broken.
Kinzer
Mammy
Wait, so does this mean I have to set my C-Stick to Specials to be able to do this or is it just some offset term of B-reversal?
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
It's Wavebouncing. Sonic doesn't have Wavebouncing moves lol. Just as soon as you pull out a nade flick the control to the other side.
TwentyTwo
Smash Ace
That vid, was posted in the general brawl discussion before, it's something about being able to cancel your falling animation through the platform, with picking up items or jabs and tilts.
IxxI
Smash Fence
I know it's been posted before. TwentyTwo is right, it's only platform restricted. I didn't take the time to learn it when I first saw it, but if it is useful as people say it is i'll try it out.
If you guys are talking about Naritake Step, wasn't it an April Fool's Joke?
As seen in this thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=228385
As seen in this thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=228385
Hobs
Smash Journeyman
This is about the mortar slide. I've been looking, but I can't seem to find any videos of people recording their hand movements. I'm interested to see all the different types, and also I want to picture the timing. Can you do the u-smash immediately after the DA or do have to wait a certain # of frames?
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Except it was discovered months before that.
HizoSturm
Smash Apprentice
how should i train with snake?
mofo_
Smash Ace
its pretty hard to do it , its like snake airdodges to catch the grenade and also lands immediately
IxxI
Smash Fence
Offline friendlies, are your best bet.
Darkshadow7827
Smash Lord
This is the first time I used the quote/multiquote feature so forgive me if it brings me undesired results... 
The mortar slide is a dash attack cancel (DAC) so you won't see the actual dash attack. As soon as you press down on the C-stick, you press up on the analogue stick and Z almost simultaneously. It's a quick input, but you'll get used to it. You should check out the forums for ATs. Don't abuse mortar sliding - it's punishable and walking/ running can be better options.
Play against people and practice ATs in training mode. If you have to play CPUs then don't do lvl 9s.
Punishment Divine
Smash Champion
Is there a dthrow guide anywhere? I really only use Snake against MK and other Marths so if there isn't, and anyone could tell me the best options for their options after a dthrow (ie if you predict a get up attack, roll behind, etc if you should run after, or pivot grab/boost pivot, ftilt, etc) that'd be fine
Also, what exactly is the best way to wavebounce Snakes Down B (Or any Down B really)? And is it worth it as far as the distance you can get from it?
Also, what exactly is the best way to wavebounce Snakes Down B (Or any Down B really)? And is it worth it as far as the distance you can get from it?
-Ran
Smash Master
Down Throw
Forward Roll ->
-Chase to grab.
-Mortar Slide
-Chase bair/nair. Lawl.
-F Tilt.
Backwards Roll ->
-Chase to grab
-Forward Smash
-F-Tilt.
-Jab to regrab
-F-smash.
Stand and attack ->
-Power Shield + Grab.
-Spot dodge + Grab
-Power Shield + C4
-Power Shield + Tilts.
Does not stand ->
-C4 stick.
-Tilts.
-Wait.
Forward Roll ->
-Chase to grab.
-Mortar Slide
-Chase bair/nair. Lawl.
-F Tilt.
Backwards Roll ->
-Chase to grab
-Forward Smash
-F-Tilt.
-Jab to regrab
-F-smash.
Stand and attack ->
-Power Shield + Grab.
-Spot dodge + Grab
-Power Shield + C4
-Power Shield + Tilts.
Does not stand ->
-C4 stick.
-Tilts.
-Wait.
-Ran
Smash Master
After you know how to Mortar Slide, and Boost grab. You need to play against people with Snake. He's a very mind game intensive character that is about learning when and how to punish. Playing against a CPU won't make you that much better than you already are.
HizoSturm
Smash Apprentice
-Ran
Smash Master
Pretty amazing once you get used to it.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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Boost Grabbing is something I've not used yet. It seems I can never get it work out right for the added boost. When I try a boosted vs a dash grab they seem pretty similar to me.
-Ran
Smash Master
There is a notable difference between a Boost grab, and a dash grab. Snake is able to grab Lucario rolling away with a boost grab, a normal dash grab cannot even come close.
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