F3NiiX
Smash Apprentice
I am currently in the process of making a brand new followup chart for the murder choke/gerudo. I expect to be finished by next week, because I can only test this accurately with a friend, not by myself, and we have already spent hours without finishing. In this is am testing more than merely tilts and the jab. Included will be:
-Instant Dash Attack
-Jab
-Down Tilt
-Forward Tilt
-Murder Quake(Instant Aerial Down B)
-Down Smash
-Up Smash
-Forward Smash
Each are tested for:
-Getup attacks
-Getting up
-Rolling Away from Dorf
-Rolling Towards Dorf
-Reversing moves
-Stalling/Timing moves
-Sliding moves
-Double Reversing(ex. DR Upsmash works really well on getup/getup attacks and is a good mind game)
-DI
-Whether its guaranteed, likely, or unlikey, because some work, but aren't guaranteed
Notes on downtilt:
-Down tilt is not tested for reversing due to the difficulty of it
-My results are soley on the instant down tilt, where dorf does not crouch then attack, but immediately attacks by barely holding down.
-Instant down tilt works in situations where the regular does not.
If anyone can think of any other possible followups that are worth testing, respond to this and I'll try to include it.
Something to note is that all these tests were done with instant reactions from the other player, meaning they aren't necessarily guaranteed if someone pauses first.
Here is the work in progress:
-Instant Dash Attack
-Jab
-Down Tilt
-Forward Tilt
-Murder Quake(Instant Aerial Down B)
-Down Smash
-Up Smash
-Forward Smash
Each are tested for:
-Getup attacks
-Getting up
-Rolling Away from Dorf
-Rolling Towards Dorf
-Reversing moves
-Stalling/Timing moves
-Sliding moves
-Double Reversing(ex. DR Upsmash works really well on getup/getup attacks and is a good mind game)
-DI
-Whether its guaranteed, likely, or unlikey, because some work, but aren't guaranteed
Notes on downtilt:
-Down tilt is not tested for reversing due to the difficulty of it
-My results are soley on the instant down tilt, where dorf does not crouch then attack, but immediately attacks by barely holding down.
-Instant down tilt works in situations where the regular does not.
If anyone can think of any other possible followups that are worth testing, respond to this and I'll try to include it.
Something to note is that all these tests were done with instant reactions from the other player, meaning they aren't necessarily guaranteed if someone pauses first.
Here is the work in progress:
