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Dimitris · Oct 12, 2011

out of business at the moment

Dimitris · Oct 12, 2011

The index is work in progress and I'll be working on it from time to time.

Let me know if you find something good.

TheCrimsonBlur · Oct 12, 2011

This is such a great idea for a thread. Sticky this.

Now.

Sinji · Oct 12, 2011

Shouldn't this thread be made on the 10th anniversary of Melee?

choknater · Oct 12, 2011

i like this a lot. threads like this have come up often, but this is concise, comprehensive, and organized. gotta love it

Dimitris · Oct 25, 2011

I just dug up a lot of MLG articles.
I think I'm done with MLG stuff... unless someone knows about something that I left out?

Landry · Oct 26, 2011

I like this thread

Mr.Jackpot · Oct 26, 2011

Wow, some of the stuff here is real treasure. Check out what top level Melee looked like 9 years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-xSNzYqHGg

Hydro_Smasher · Oct 27, 2011

excellent thread. Will give a read when I'm not in class.

Dimitris · Oct 28, 2011

Thanks for the positive posts.

On EVO 2007: I can't find jack on the web. But I used to have the EVO DVD with the interviews on it (they did HugS, Mango, Chillin', ...). Can't find it anywhere now.
Does anyone have that DVD and is willing to upload that stuff? They don't sell it anymore so I don't think Evo would mind.

Strife · Oct 28, 2011

I hate to say it but I really wasn't impressed with Juggleguy's 2010 review. He didn't mention a lot of the important things about the tournaments. Like how impressed people were with Amsah at Pound 4, or how half the community was split on if ScorpionMaster was mango or not. It's like he just rushed through it, without taking enough time to make it as good as possible.

Dimitris · Oct 28, 2011

Nobody wrote a better 2010 article, far from. So props to Juggleguy.

Strife · Oct 28, 2011

Well I think this is because they expected(I think he even said he would) that Juggleguy would write the article so no one else did. Juggleguy did a good 2009 article, but his 2010 article was kinda lazy. I'm saying that people shouldn't let him be the one to write the articles if he isn't going to give it his full effort.

Dimitris · Oct 28, 2011

Edit: nevermind. Just going to stick with this:

Dimitris said:
Nobody wrote a better 2010 article, far from. So props to Juggleguy.

TheCrimsonBlur · Oct 28, 2011

The Year in Review posts make me think...what 100+ tournaments have we had this year?

Off the top of my head:
BEAST 2
Pound V
Genesis 2
Big House
RoM will be 100+

What else?

Divinokage · Oct 28, 2011

Hmm.. nice, I'll take a look at this. =P

Rostigalen · Oct 28, 2011

BEAST 1 was exactly 100 entrants. =p

Awesome thread.

TheCrimsonBlur · Oct 28, 2011

Rostigalen said:
BEAST 1 was exactly 100 entrants. =p

Awesome thread.

Ah, I didn't realize BEAST 1 was this year.

So that means as long as RoM has more than 100 entrants (which is basically guaranteed), we will match last year's mark of 6 100+ tournaments.

So that would make the progression:
2004: 2
2005: 6
2006: 10
2007: 12
2008: 4
2009: 9
2010: 6
2011: 6

Strong Badam · Oct 29, 2011

what were the 2008 tourneys?
Pound 3, TGMTSBCO, Event 52, RoM?

Yung Mei · Oct 29, 2011

i ****ing love this thread

Strife · Oct 30, 2011

TheCrimsonBlur said:
Ah, I didn't realize BEAST 1 was this year.

So that means as long as RoM has more than 100 entrants (which is basically guaranteed), we will match last year's mark of 6 100+ tournaments.

So that would make the progression:
2004: 2
2005: 6
2006: 10
2007: 12
2008: 4
2009: 9
2010: 6
2011: 6

Rostigalen is wrong. I'm pretty sure BEAST I had around 90 entrants.

And there was also Wintergames fest 2011 and SMYM 12.

Johnknight1 · Oct 30, 2011

This thread... has all my approval.

Dear sir Dimitris, I present to you your prize for this epic thread and awesome links: the Smash World!!!

TheCrimsonBlur · Oct 31, 2011

Strife said:
Rostigalen is wrong. I'm pretty sure BEAST I had around 90 entrants.

And there was also Wintergames fest 2011 and SMYM 12.

Woah, I forgot about those. Will we really have 8 100+ this year (7 if BEAST was really less than 100; I can't seem to find the entrants numbers)?

Pound V
Genesis 2
Big House
Wintergamesfest 2011
SMYM 12
BEAST 1
BEAST 2
RoM

We've also had a few that were close to 100 like Zenith. I suppose we might have a tournament other than RoM crack 100+ too but I don't know of any.

Pretty great year for smash all things considered.

Strong Bad said:
what were the 2008 tourneys?
Pound 3, TGMTSBCO, Event 52, RoM?

TGMTSBCO was indeed 100+ good catch! Juggleguy's list was wrong he should update that; he didnt include TGMTSBCO. He had UCLA V as the 4th 100+ he listed. The new list would be:

2004: 2 (TG6, Game Over)
2005: 6 (FC3, Getting Schooled 2, MLG DC, MLG SF, BOMB 4, MOAST 3)
2006: 10 (MLG New York Opener, MLG Dallas, MLG Anaheim, MLG Chicago, MLG Orlando, MLG New York Playoffs, FC6, OC2, SMYM 6, Gauntlet)
2007: 12 (OC3, FC-Diamond, Cataclysm, EVO South, EVO West, EVO World, Smash Royale III, Innsomnia, Pound 2, SCC, VLS, UCLA IV)
2008: 5 (Pound 3, UCLA V, TGMTSBCO, ESA 2, Event 52)
2009: 9 (SMYM 9, Revival of Melee, Mango Juice, ESA 3, Genesis, SMYM 10, TSL 4, Pat's House, RoM 2)
2010: 6 (Pound 4, SMYM 11, APEX 2010, SNY 1, RoM 3, DGDTJ)
2011: 8

Add any more if you can remember it; I'm sure Juggleguy missed a few more. I'd also be interested in ordering each of these by attendants...

Dimitris · Oct 31, 2011

Wow, good list, Crimson. I'm going to use it to base my searches on, and/or just link to your post in the index.

TheCrimsonBlur · Oct 31, 2011

Dimitris said:
Wow, good list, Crimson. I'm going to use it to base my searches on, and/or just link to your post in the index.

Its copy+pasted from Juggleguy, he deserves the credit. I'm searching around for more attendance numbers as we speak though

Dimitris · Oct 31, 2011

Right, I forgot that he listed those in his review article.

Beat! · Oct 31, 2011

Woah, I forgot about those. Will we really have 8 100+ this year (7 if BEAST was really less than 100; I can't seem to find the entrants numbers)?

I'd take Rostigalen's word over Strife's, seeing as he was there. iirc he was even sort of part of the crew.

Rostigalen · Oct 31, 2011

I was unofficial staff at BEAST 1. Strife wasn't there. Why do you hold his word over mine?

Exactly 100 persons entered singles, and I think we had 47 teams entering. Some players entered teams but not singles (for example C, who got to Losers Finals in teams), so we had over 100 participants for sure.

Beat! · Oct 31, 2011

?

I said I'd hold your word over his.

lol

Oh wait, mb that wasnt directed at me.

Rostigalen · Oct 31, 2011

Yeah, that was directed at Crimson, not you. =p

Bing · Oct 31, 2011

This was a great read, I really like the MLG interview with Azen, my favourite old smasher <3

AlphaZealot · Oct 31, 2011

I've written entirely to much about Smash over the years. Or not enough?

Battlecow · Oct 31, 2011

I always love reading old pre-brawl posts from like AZ and those guys. So much hardcore denialism.

"Brawl will be good. No, really. Shut- just shut up, OK? It'll be good."

TheCrimsonBlur · Oct 31, 2011

God 2007 was so absurd.

July 12-14th: FC Diamond (256)
July 20-22nd: OC3 (228)
July 27-29th: EVO West (128)

3 consecutive weekends of 3-day nationals. A month before that there was Pound 2 (200), and a month after there was EVO World (270). Like wtf.

...Its so sad to see that growth stunted immediately in 2008 because of you-know-what...

But it seems like we are on the up and up again. I know everyone likes to say we are stagnant or dying but the numbers suggest growth, at least based on the numbers I've compiled so far (I still wanna look into it more before I make a more conclusive post).

Battlecow · Nov 1, 2011

None of the 2011 tourneys cracked 200, though /:

TheCrimsonBlur · Nov 1, 2011

Battlecow said:
None of the 2011 tourneys cracked 200, though /:

Genesis had 228 and Pound V had 234. RoM is still to be determined, but those usually get between 130-170 iirc.

Strife · Nov 1, 2011

Does anyone have the numbers for how large the Brawl tournies have been? I'd like to see how we stack up to them attendant wise.

the_CAM_factor · Nov 1, 2011

good reads, cant believe i havent seen all of these before.

Dimitris · Nov 3, 2011

Thanks for all the numbers, Crimson.

Battlecow · Nov 3, 2011

TheCrimsonBlur said:
Genesis had 228 and Pound V had 234. RoM is still to be determined, but those usually get between 130-170 iirc.

Oh, that makes more sense. I was WTF'ing a little at how they weren't over 200; I think he just forgot to include the little (200+!)'s, but he's fixed it now.

Yay melee! Second best game of all time!

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