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The Pound and the Fury

RaveRemix

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The Pound and the Fury
(Tourney 3/5 of season)





Location:
701 N Euclid Ave, Tucson AZ 85719. northwest corner of 4th st and Euclid ave, directly across the street from the Tyndall Garage (which is free to park on weekends). also, parking along 4th street is free on weekends too, so either will do. please bring tvs and setups, as always.


and here's a little map just in case, with the tv lounge pointed out just for comparison, distance-wise.

Schedule (please note the slight time changes):
11:30pm- Friendlies/Warmups
1:00pm- Doubles Brawl
3:30pm- Singles Pools (Melee + Brawl)
5:00pm- Lunch
5:30pm- Singles Brackets (Melee + Brawl)
8:30pm- Project M

Payouts
Singles (Brawl):
1st 50%
2nd 25%
3rd 15%
4th 10%

Project M/Melee/Doubles Brawl:
1st 60%
2nd 30%
3rd 10%

Entry Fees
Singles (Melee + Brawl): $5/Per Person
Doubles Brawl: $5/Per Person
Project M: $3/Per Person

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Brawl Ruleset

Rule Set: Japanese

1. 3 stocks
2. 10-minute timer
3. Best-of-3 sets (WF, LF, and GF will be Best-of-5)
4. Double elimination
5. All items off
6. Team attack on
7. Changing controls allowed
8. Pause is turned off
9. No standing infinites for stalling purposes
10. No bugs/glitches of any kind
11.No Infinite Dimensional Cape (incidental use of IDC is tolerable)
12. Ledge grab limit of 50
13. No scrooging (player may travel under the stage once from the ledge)
* "Traveling under the stage once from the ledge" is defined as dropping off the ledge on one side of the stage and reaching the height of the original ledge on the other side of the stage.
Exceptions to Rule 13:
When one of the players is attacked by the other and takes damage.
[There is one other exception, but I don't understand it. I'll update this once I get a clarification from RAIN, or if someone else can figure out what it means from the Japanese version.]
14. Double MK is banned

Set Format:
Game 1:
1. Stage-striking order and controller ports are determined by Rock-Paper-Scissors
2. Rock-Paper-Scissors loser strikes one of the three Starter stages
3. Rock-Paper-Scissors winner strikes one of the remaining two Starter stages
4. Players select their characters (players may elect to have a double-blind character selection)

Game 2 (and so on):
1. Loser may select controller port
2. Winner may ban a stage from the Starter List, or ban all Counterpick stages (Taj's Rule)
3. Loser selects one of the remaining stages
4. Winner chooses character
5. Loser chooses character
6. Repeat steps 1-5 until the set is decided

In the event that a match goes to time, the victor will be decided by the following steps, in order:
1. Number of ledgegrabs (if one player exceeds 50 ledgegrabs, that player will be declared the loser)
2. Number of remaining stocks
3. Amount of damage percent
4. If stocks and damage percent identical, the match will be replayed on the same stage, with each player at one stock.

Stages:
Starter:
Final Destination
Battlefield
Smashville

Counterpicks
Yoshi's Island (Brawl)
Lylat Cruise
Pokemon Stadium 1


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Melee Ruleset

Stage List

Singles

Starter Stage List:
• Dream Land: Fountain of Dreams
• Past Stages: Dream Land
• Special Stages: Final Destination
• Special Stages: Battlefield
• Yoshi's Island: Yoshi's Story

Counter Stage List:
• Kanto: Pokemon Stadium
• Planet Zebes: Brinstar
• Mushroom Kingdom: Rainbow Cruise
• Past Stages: Kongo Jungle

Teams

Starter Stage List:
• Kanto: Pokemon Stadium
• Past Stages: Dream Land
• Special Stages: Final Destination
• Special Stages: Battlefield
• Yoshi's Island: Yoshi's Story

Counter Stage List:
• Planet Zebes: Brinstar
• Mushroom Kingdom: Rainbow Cruise
• Past Stages: Kongo Jungle


General Rules
• Items are set to off.
• Stock and Time are set to 4 stock and 8 minutes respectively.
• Regular sets are best of 3 matches.
• The Tournament Host is the arbiter of all disputes.
• Blind Picks: the first character selection of a set must be without prior knowledge of the opponent's character selection for both players.
• Modified Dave's Stupid Rule: No player can counter pick a stage he or she has previously won on unless agreed upon by both players.
• Gentleman's clause: any stage may be played on so long as both players and the Tournament Host agree to it, including banned stages. This can be used in tandem with the Modified Dave's Stupid Rule (MDSR).
• Timed out matches will be determined by the remaining number of lives, then percentage of the current stock. In the event of a percentage tie, replay that match. Any Sudden Death match is strictly not to be played.
• Wobbling and the freeze glitch are officially 100% banned at these tournaments.
• Tai's Stupid Rule: Mewtwo's Soul Breaker glitch is, in fact, legal. How to get a Red Shell while not interfering with General Rule #1 is up to you!

Additional Rules for Teams Play
• Life Stealing is allowed
• Set team attack to ON

Redwood Counter Pick System
1. Blind Picks character selection.
2. Stage Striking: Players eliminate stages from the Starter Stage List until only 1 remains, and the players then play the first match on that stage. Players strike stages in 1 2 1 order.
3. The first match is played.
4. Winning player of the preceding match bans a stage.
5. The losing player of preceding match picks stage for the next match.
6. The winning player of preceding match picks character.
7. The losing player picks character.
8. The next match is played.
9. Repeat 4-8 for all consecutive matches as necessary until the set is complete.

Recommendations to Tournament Hosts (a.k.a. Other Notes)
• Players are responsible for their own general welfare in regards to the tournament. In other words, players are responsible for:
1. Being familiar with the rule set and stage list
2. Entrance and venue fees
3. Arriving on time
4. Maintaining personal hygiene
5. Controllers and Character Knowledge
6. Minimizing Johns

• Sets are usually based on brackets which may be seeded at the Tournament Host's discretion. If your tournament is any other format, make a note to advertise it accordingly.
• Some kind of stalling prevention is highly recommended. Since a definition of stalling is too potentially ambiguous here, all instances of stalling are determined by the Tournament Host.
• Unnecessary delays in a set should be discouraged. This can occur before (not playing a match) or during (taking an unnecessary amount of time to counter pick) and after (not reporting) a set that has been called. The Tournament Host is recommended to keep tabs on set completion.
• No more than the previous match should be replayed in the event of a rule violation and it is recommended that any disputes be brought promptly and quickly to the Tournament Host's attention.
• When running a pool, the game count of each set in pool play should be recorded (i.e. whether the set was 2-0 or 2-1). Ranking in a pool is determined by the number of sets won. In case of a tie, the first tiebreaker is the win/loss ratio of the individual games, where the higher ratio wins. In the event of a tie in both set victories and match-up ratios, the player who won the set between the disputed players should advance.
• The semi-final and championship sets should be in at least best of 5 format.
• Wireless controllers should be discouraged or banned because of interference, unreliability (battery life), and time hindrance.*
• The Tournament Host reserves the right at any time to make anyone leave the premises of the tournament.
• For all Melee tournaments, use of the character Metaknight is banned.
*Okami’s note: However, they may be used at players’ own risk.

Okami’s Additions to the Rules/Info:
• Trash talking by the audience during sets that are not semifinals or grand finals are discouraged, but allowed. Individuals (aside from the Tournament Host) in the audience may be silenced by any of the players participating in a tournament match at any time.
• Trash talking during semifinals and grand finals are allowed. Same rule as stated above applies. This is the ONLY time pausing is allowed and players who choose to pause for this reason may be disqualified at the Tournament Host’s discretion.
• Clean up after the tournament.
• Individuals may not undermine commentators while the microphone is recording.

Taj's Better Rule
You may choose to ban a neutral or all counterpicks.

These rules are copied and pasted from the MBR Official Rule Set topic. A few small modifications have been made to fit the tournament better. Those who do not abide by these rules are subject to consequences determined by the Tournament Host. Any other questions or comments about the tournament may be posted here!

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Project Melee Ruleset

Stagelist:

Neutrals:

Battlefield
Final Destination
Yoshi's Story
Fountain of Dreams
Dreamland 64
Smashville
Pokemon Stadium 2
Dracula's Castle
Green Hill Zone

Counterpicks:

Temple:M
Metal Cavern
Kongo Jungle 64 - may be banned
SSE: Jungle
Rumble Falls
Skyworld
Wario Ware
Lylat Cruise - may be banned
Pokemon Stadium

General Rules
• Items are set to off.
• Stock and Time are set to 4 stock and 8 minutes respectively.
• Regular sets are best of 3 matches.
• The Tournament Host is the arbiter of all disputes.
• Blind Picks: the first character selection of a set must be without prior knowledge of the opponent's character selection for both players.
• Modified Dave's Stupid Rule: No player can counter pick a stage he or she has previously won on unless agreed upon by both players.
• Gentleman's clause: any stage may be played on so long as both players and the Tournament Host agree to it, including banned stages. This can be used in tandem with the Modified Dave's Stupid Rule (MDSR).
• Timed out matches will be determined by the remaining number of lives, then percentage of the current stock. In the event of a percentage tie, replay that match. Any Sudden Death match is strictly not to be played.
 

RaveRemix

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Please let me know the following:

*Let me know ASAP when you guys have a venue secured. Venue secured.

* If you want to do any side tournaments. Not enough time.

* If you guys want to experiment with Taj's Better Rule this tourney. I for one would like to.

* If you guys want to include Melee in this tourney. It would guarantee a big turnout. Melee added
 

oksas

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ps someone ought to host melee at this too so that phoenix melee will come. jeff and tai :D
 

SFA Smiley

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Bonus points because the cover of the book happens to look like **** is ensuing. You could even say that's Mr G&W behind Sheik.

Edit:

*dead*

Dude that might mean this is my tourney :awesome:

inb4 i beat both Kyle and Kira

(Or lose to Relic or some dumb ****)

Also, FINALLY a tucson tourney. Traveling to phoenix for every tourney is so draining.
 

DerpDaBerp

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ok, you can't shoop that pic and not make it the one in the OP
too funny
 

Nazo

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Guess I won't be making this. I'm leaving the 17th back to MD for like a good 2 weeks. Since this is my break from school, I'll take the time to actually get some practice in.
 

AirVault

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hey guys, its been a while, i really want to come to this one, ill talk to moo and see if he wants to come also. Hey Kira is there a phoenix carpool or whatever? Also Kira i will give you a call sometime next week or maybe the weekend is that cool?
 

One-Up

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smiley u wanna team for this one? FO SHOW THIS TIME i wont ditch ya again, that was a dic move sorry man
 

lusiris

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Does Phoenix have a car pool set up? We might not have doubles and instead host singles earlier. With hosting Brawl and Melee at the same time we need all the time we can get.
 

One-Up

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we should use a different ruleset this tourney.(for brawl) we keep talking about changing it but it never happens...
 

lusiris

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The only thing we have talked about changing is adding Taj's Rule which I agree with adding to the rule set
 

RaveRemix

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I don't mind trying out Taj's Better Rule this tourney. Unless there is overwhelming opposition to it, it will be used for this tournament.
 

One-Up

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Taj's rule is where u can ban fd,sv and bf right? and we have a better stage list?(ex: Frigate,Delfino,Castle)
 

oksas

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fyi the schedule says the tv lounge is open today but i'm sitting in front of it and it is still closed
 

DerpDaBerp

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Ohhhhhh, Tucson...
I'm here too, and it's closed because it's "under construction", so God knows how long that'll take
I think it would be wise to start planning a backup

:phone:
 

oksas

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on previous weeks' schedules they acknowledged it was closed (or at least they did on last week's), so i thought it would actually be open this time. the union's main website says the TV lounge is closed today, but when you click on the pdf schedule it still says it's open. so. we'll see
 

MEOW1337KITTEH

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we should use a different ruleset this tourney.(for brawl) we keep talking about changing it but it never happens...

I thought I was the only one who wanted changes. Taj's Rule and some actual CP's would be really nice.

I can't go to this either way, but Taj's rule with the other Japanese rules can be a major problem, such as only being able to play on a stage once per set (that's a part of the ruleset, right?)
 

lusiris

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I thought I was the only one who wanted changes. Taj's Rule and some actual CP's would be really nice.

I can't go to this either way, but Taj's rule with the other Japanese rules can be a major problem, such as only being able to play on a stage once per set (that's a part of the ruleset, right?)
No Taj's Rule is:
You may choose to ban a neutral or all counterpicks.
So this is how it goes:
First match is like normal
Second Match: Say you beat me. I can ban a neutral like FD, Smashville or Battlefield or just ban all CP's. This allows everyone to ban a neutral if they want and at the same time it allows people that love neutrals to only play on neutrals.
 

MEOW1337KITTEH

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6 stages, match 1 takes it to 5 stages available. Bans all cps, 1 stage avaiable. Bans last stage.

Isn't a rule in the Japanese Ruleset that you can only play on the same stage once per stage?
 

RaveRemix

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^There is no such rule. Every round, all 6 stages are available to be picked from prior to the ban process.

:phone:
 

Soft Serve

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Man there will be Melee at this too? I really wish I could make it down to Tuscon for tournaments.

Pheonix needs more Melee events.
 
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