360 Degree Falcon Punch

[FlipNRed]

Do a jumping reverse Falcon punch Melee style, then during initial frames reverse it a la Brawl mechanics to do a 360 degree Falcon punch, which in reality would be an unnecessarily technical version, or chock full of mindgames version, of a regular jumping Falcon punch. Useless...flashy...Falcon!

PS I ran a search sorry if it's already out there.

 

[Mr.Trite]

Mocking another poster is fine with me if it's in the same thread but to make a new thread for it just GRINDS MY GEARS ARRGH

 

[FlipNRed]

Mocking another poster is fine with me if it's in the same thread but to make a new thread for it just GRINDS MY GEARS ARRGH

Are you absolutely serious? What part of my post did you not understand? Did you even read it to determine legitimacy or were you unable to comprehend it due to your lack of understanding of Melee?

To do a reverse Falcon punch in Melee, while in the air with forward momentum you have to flick the control stick so it changes direction as if you were doing a reverse SHL. This can be applied to Brawl as well. However, during the start up frames of the "melee" reverse Falcon punch if you turn the other direction again using Brawl's properties of Falcon punch, you can redirect it back to a forward attack. Although the tactic can be considered virtually useless, it is still technical and flashy, possibly tricky for the opponent.

The other thread I assume you're talking about mentioned information that can be found on Smash Dojo and was already universally known. I actually contributed something and it's coincidental that a garbage thread undermined it.

 

[Choppah]

Threads and a friend told me that doing a reverse falcon punch does more damage (although, I haven't tested it out myself) than a regular falcon punch so this technique would be a little more useful. You can get a stronger falcon punch in the direction towards your opponent rather than turning around just so you can get a regular 180 punch.

 

[Mizar]

Predictable anyone?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I highly doubt that any pros would fall for Falcon Punch anyway. It's just so predictable.

 

[KeyKid19]

I highly doubt that any pros would fall for Falcon Punch anyway. It's just so predictable.

Actually well placed Falcon Punches are very effective even at the highest levels of play.

 

[Psychoace]

I highly doubt that any pros would fall for Falcon Punch anyway. It's just so predictable.

Ever heard of the sacred combo?

 

[Mann]

Predictable = Yes.
Unusable = No.

 

[marthmaster04]

I highly doubt that any pros would fall for Falcon Punch anyway. It's just so predictable.

Tech chases mah boy. =^U

 

[spiritdragon]

So it's basically Falcon Punching the same way as if you didn't turn around or anything....idk, may be somewhat useful if the mind**** gets to your opponent.

 

[FlipNRed]

Supposedly it does more damage. Has anyone tested?

 

[Mann]

Supposedly it does more damage. Has anyone tested?

Yes.

10charpunch.

 

[FreakoFreako]

Anyone ever see 180 Falcon Punch after getting hit with Mario's Cape? That looked pretty sweet. >.> Imagine a 360 with Mario's Cape!

 

[Medic]

Oh yeah, I think Reverse does 1.5x damage as opposed to 1x for regular. That's just a guesstimate, though. All I know is that it killed an Ike at 45% on Final Destination, I believe. It was a week or two ago ><

 

[LuLLo]

2 All the people who think the Falcon Punch is predictable:
Why would something be predictable if you are certain it hits and use it only ONCE in a match?
Ever heard of Tapion Punch combo?

I thought the Reverse does 1 or 2 percent more damage than usual??

 

[Mizar]

2 All the people who think the Falcon Punch is predictable:
Why would something be predictable if you are certain it hits and use it only ONCE in a match?
Ever heard of Tapion Punch combo?

I thought the Reverse does 1 or 2 percent more damage than usual??

Lol, this is brawl.

Anyway, im gunna practice it, just for the fun.

 

[Formula1]

2 All the people who think the Falcon Punch is predictable:
Why would something be predictable if you are certain it hits and use it only ONCE in a match?
Ever heard of Tapion Punch combo?

I thought the Reverse does 1 or 2 percent more damage than usual??

It definitly can be used...
-As usefull as the knee though?
I doubt it....

 

[Doval]

Reverse version does 1% more and kills a little bit earlier. Not a big enough difference to talk about though.

 

[FlipNRed]

Reverse version does 1% more and kills a little bit earlier. Not a big enough difference to talk about though.

Here is some percent data I gathered for attack killing power. All data was gathered in TRAINING MODE, so there is no stale-move negation and no DI. On the left side I will name a move and to the right of the named move I will give a percent; this percent is the percent at which that move kills OLIMAR from the center of FINAL DESTINATION. It should also be noted that attacks used in training mode are SLIGHTLY weaker than non-stale attacks used in Versus mode, so this data is a CLOSE APPROXIMATE(within 2%) of actual Versus mode statistic.

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Reverse Falcon Punch- 40%
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Falcon Punch- 59%

http://www.allisbrawl.com/forum/topic.aspx?id=5657

Is a ~20% difference in killing ability immaterial to you and not worth mentioning? Shield breaks and missed rests do occur as well as partner grab set-ups and tech chases. No matter how inconsequential the damage difference is, the % between a kill or not matters and also the additional knockback by doing a move that IS part of Falcon's arsenal in a game when characters already live much longer makes quite a difference in gaining that stock lead.

 

[KeyKid19]

That's good stuff about the knockback difference. The only problem is that the Reverse Falcon Punch takes a smidge longer to charge than the normal one which can make or break the move.