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You sound like going to tournaments is the only way that a person can get better. Experience is vital, sure, but, practicing at home with other people willing to get better just as important for noticeable improvement, I feel. I got better by playing with Calvin a couple times a week, and that's how I continue to improve.I had a long post written out, but my computer froze
A lot of people seem to be either losing interest or finding other reasons not to come to tournaments. I'm okay with a smaller, close-knit group of players, but I think we should rethink our priorities as a community. If we want to legitimately work on getting better, then I think we should block any impediments to that. As cheap as the ASL already is, money is still a huge issue for a lot of players, and I would like to eliminate that as a factor. In short, I think we should host free entry tournaments. We could still have a venue fee when necessary, but we get rid of entry fees and prize money.
Most people don't benefit from the money situation as is, only a handful benefit in fact. I certainly don't mean to chastise them for that, but I think we need to shift our priorities to helping everyone improve. We could save our money so we can go to larger out of state tournaments, which could help us improve, grow closer as a group, and let people know we exist.
Frankly, every argument I've heard in favor of keeping prize money doesn't appear to hold water. I've heard people say that nothing is on the line in free tournament. I don't think people are going to stop trying because the tournament is free; if nothing else, pride is on the line. I've heard people say that top level players won't come to tournaments if there's no money involved. While I agree to some extent, we are talking about local tournaments, not regionals. I'm confident our good players like the game enough to come regardless of the prize money. If we ever do host a large tournament, we should have prize money, but we don't need it at locals. I'm willing to listen to anyone who thinks they can argue for prize money. However, as of now, I only see money as an impediment.
I was going to recommend that we get rid of the PR as well, but after talking to Billy, I don't think that's a good idea. The PR can be a huge distraction to players who want to get "just good enough" to maintain their spots (I'm guilty of this too). It also forces players to cut each other down and argue every few months about who is better. As much as I don't like that, I think it serves other vital functions. It shows other states that we are active, and it helps us seed tournaments more effectively. We might consider restructuring the PR to fix the problems without getting rid of the benefits. Currently I have no suggestion to do that, but it's something to think about.
You have a VERY different mentality from a fair portion of other players. I don't think Rag, for example, will come at all without prize money. I'd be upset as well.
because alot of us have moved on to other games that we think are more important and fun at a point and time i was guilty of this comparing smash to traditional fighters to me isnt fair ive learned that smash is a fighter its just different its in its own league! for what ever it is worth cam if yall thrown a tourny and its doesnt interfere with issac monthly or i have a free saturday then ill be more than happy to see what my little moon man can do! cam also gotta realize me, kola, dangr, nice1, who i think are decent players at one point quit!
It's not always so silly. I enjoy getting better with a lot of characters; I have a general tendency to play aggressively, despite maining a particularly lame character. I don't think idea play necessarily revolves around hardcore camping.
Zero?????????????
you do realize how easy this is for you to say in comparision to some players? you are literally surrounded by people who are MAAAD competitve and have MAAD drive literally everytime you play the game.
I understand how well that has worked out in my favor. I'm not saying that everyone else should just man up and get better. I just mean that not having other people to regularly play with is what's holding a lot of people back.
Why would I have some personal vendetta against you? Because we don't agree with certain things about a video game? I'm not that petty. Very few people are.
I didn't invite anyone else to anything, either. I'm not gonna give you special treatment. It's not my place to invite people to Auburn, as they're not my events. It is my understanding that you've been invited to them on more than one occasion, though. I don't understand why you would drop everything to play with me but would be so reluctant to play with them for much longer.reflex you still didnt invite me to anything... lmao. its ok whatever. but im literally saying if you smash for as little as an hour with clavin or your brother or anyone else for that matter or anyyyytttthhhiiinnnggg i will litterally drive to auburn for that one hour, play, then turn around and leave. but thats not enough initiative to get me invited anywhere i guess lol welp...
guess im wrong for trying to have a hands on experiance and will start messaging you then? blllaaaaahh.
@cam, yeah you have but ive never gotten specific details or known that yall did that every friday. ive known that you guys smash before tournaments, but im not able to come do stuff before tournaments since thatd put me being gone for 2 days and not just 1. maybe i just didnt listen closely enough but when you explained things it sounded like "there is a smash club in auburn that plays sometimes" i didnt know you or anyone else were a part of it though, or that it was an up-and-running thing. but like i said, it could have been me not paying close enough atttention :/
anyways, cam, i would like to come but its kind of discouraging knowing itll be the last one like id like to find something consistant. maybe we can work on that over the summer? id drive to huntsville or where ever, so you can add me to a list of people interested in a regular smashfest over the summer if you have any intentions of doing that. if not, then whats new i just wont be smashing lol. but ill try to come friday, it'd be cool but im just sad i found out about it so late
But I'm a frauuuuuuuuud!i like your philosophies about the community though, cam. i think they come from a really genuine place
And this doesn't happen for you? And it couldn't be rectified because?
Go to Troy. It's a damn fine school. You'll have to travel for smash, but I would definitely choose for school over smash.
this doesn't happen for the majority of the brawl community. especially in alabama. it comes full circle because there's no interest or hype to feed off of, and eventually you stop caring as much because nobody else cares.
