Just like I said in the other thread, fool me once etc. We as a community (anyone who isn't a brawl player, and has been playing a long time) know how smash works, how it flows, and feels and how the game should operate, we didn't spend tens of thousands of hours playing with ourselves and not our game. Even Zero himself confirmed it's like a "improved brawl". I dont want that, as a player, I want a faster game like Melee with freedom of movement options. Even something more like 64 would have been great. Whether you want a hugbox over a new unreleased game is irrelevant, we're going to criticize it if we see things we dont like. Dont like what we're saying then ****in report us, because I'm not holding back on what I think. I'm not even gonna deny it at this point that it needs to be a Melee like game.
I really didn't want another Melee tbh, even as much as I adore the game. I wanted something to replace it, something better that builds on the fun ideas that Melee gave us as a community. All the options, all the combos, the general flow of the game. The idea of Melee and what it means as a game could have been built on. Thus far from WHAT I'VE SEEN and what I've READ, it's looking like the game I've avoided since 2008 because of bad gameplay quality. Smash 4 is indeed subject to change, I'm not arguing against that, but I think honestly the game is getting to the polish stage for bug fixing and such. If I have to demand another Melee to see gameplay quality, to get Sakurai out of his casual catering then I will. I dont wanna see 6-7 more years of "OH SHIELD/DEFENSE OPTIONS ARE TOO SAFE BETTER STAND BACK AND WAIT".
If you like Brawl, more power to you, you have a different taste than me and I'll leave it at that, but I personally cannot abide by being insulted by another game like it. Speaking up and voicing our opinions as Melee players is the only way to get options in the game that we like. Staying quiet is only going to make another Brawl. What I'm saying is, I learn my lessons from the past (brawl and the brawl invite). I'm not dumb enough to repeat my mistakes.
Here are the reasons this post is dumb, and I'm going to illustrate this for you not because I'm trying to insult you, but because what you wrote is dumb and I don't think what you want to be said isn't being said they way you want it to be said in your post.
The whole thing is incredibly passive aggressive. Aside from the fact that you watched a ****ing video of a game less than 10 hours old with next to no tech being discovered(which by the way in any game in any genre is a stupidly bad way to judge it), you say **** like you're being "insulted" with another game. "fool me once", like the developers are some secret band of thieves whose job is to bait and switch you-- not work thousands of hours taking your feedback to input into a game with already ridiculous expectations coming off what largely is known as a competitive pariah to its hardcore fanbase. You, King whatever your name is, throwing out his fallace on a platter to be washed and sucked off. Sincerely, As much as you believe developers don't give a **** about the hardcore, let me tell you from actually meeting these people and working with them on various things, it's the exact opposite. It's the worst thing in the world when a hardcore community HATES your game. It impacts sales, longevity, and word of mouth. Capcom didn't need to make Ultimate Marvel 3-- as it made them look bad to the general public-- but they did BECAUSE of the competitive community. That's hundreds of thousands of dollars believe it or not, and man hours on something that is generally seen as an investment not yielding of a large return.
So let me just put this in perspective for you: You're totally entitled to not like what you've seen. There's plenty of stuff here that I'm sure isn't of interest to you, and 100 percent you deserve to not invest time into liking that. But at the same time, when you pull out sentences like "We as a community (anyone who isn't a brawl player, and has been playing a long time) know how smash works, how it flows, and feels and how the game should operate, we didn't spend tens of thousands of hours playing with ourselves and not our game. " you're kind of digging a hole for yourself. If you can't see why that sentence that you wrote is a dumb thing to say-- you need to seriously examine it and think for a minute. I know you're probably angry at me for saying it, but ten seconds, think why it's bad to phrase something the way you just did.
Take it form somebody whose been involved in competitive gaming longer and is older than you-- **** just smash, that attitudes going to murder the **** out of your life if you keep dropping that stuff. It'll kill your chances at jobs, and it'll hurt any community you work within because it's a really selfish way of trying to say "**** everybody if it's not MY game, or what I want it's stupid."(And I'm aware you put that disclaimer thing there, but honestly dude anyone over 20 can read between the lines of what you really mean.)
I thought I would post this because your post frustrated me, and instead of flaming you I'd tell you something useful. I think the game looks different and the same, like every game several months before release. It's slower, seems slightly boring, and at the same time has cool elements that look fun-- like every game several months before release. I also think that if I dislike something, I should probably voice my concern conscientiously like a person who isn't an idiot or cynic, because if I do that then developers will probably take my suggestion into account. My $.02
